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    Quote Originally Posted by DJC View Post
    Podres is like Koufax: played on one WS-winner without playing in the WS itself ('55) and played in 3 WS on the winning side ('59, '63, '65).
    Ummmm I believe Podres played in 55 . . . . uh twice.

    It was 65 when he sat. (They should have at least pinch hit him. He hit .313 in the post season.)

    Edit: Oh, he wasn't on the roster? I guess they knew it would be over quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRon View Post
    Let's set the record straight. True, Podres pitched in the Series for 3 winning teams, but he was an active member of 5 World Series teams.

    He pitched in 53 for a losing Brooklyn team.
    He pitched in 55 for a winning Brooklyn team, and was WS MVP.
    He pitched in 59 for a winning LA team.
    He pitched in 63 for a winning LA team.
    He was on a losing LA team in 65 but did not pitch in the Series.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackaroo Dave View Post
    Ummmm I believe Podres played in 55 . . . . uh twice.

    It was 65 when he sat. (They should have at least pinch hit him. He hit .313 in the post season.)

    Edit: Oh, he wasn't on the roster? I guess they knew it would be over quickly.
    Apologies, I flipped the years when I wrote that. He also played for the Dodgers in '66 but was traded before they reached the series and lost to the O's.
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    Actually I wonder if Podres was on the 1965 WS roster. Having Koufax and Drysdale probably kept him out of the series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    He was on a winning 65 LA team but did not pitch. I wonder why he wasn't on the WS roster though.

    1966 he pitched briefly for the Dodgers. They lost to the Orioles that year.
    Thanks- that was a typo by me. I saw every game of the 65 Series. I didn't realize (or remember) that he wasn't on the WS roster in 65. Are you sure about this? Podres had a lot of arm trouble around 64-65-66, so maybe that was the issue in 65?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJC View Post
    Apologies, I flipped the years when I wrote that. He also sat in '66, when the Dodgers lost.
    He left the Dodgers and played wit the Tigers in 1966.

    1965 i'm kinda curious if he was on the WS roster. Baseball Reference I don't think tells who was on the WS rosters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    He left the Dodgers and played wit the Tigers in 1966.

    1965 i'm kinda curious if he was on the WS roster. Baseball Reference I don't think tells who was on the WS rosters.
    Yeah, I edited that. BB-Ref doesn't have the rosters, just who played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRon View Post
    Thanks- that was a typo by me. I saw every game of the 65 Series. I didn't realize (or remember) that he wasn't on the WS roster in 65. Are you sure about this? Podres had a lot of arm trouble around 64-65-66, so maybe that was the issue in 65?
    He had a halfway decent year but I would have to guess he made the WS roster and never got in a game. Unless he got injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    He had a halfway decent year but I would have to guess he made the WS roster and never got in a game. Unless he got injured.
    I really searched and cannot find rosters. My guess is that he on, but didn't play. BTW, 1965 is the only 7 game WS where all 7 WP threw complete games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJC View Post
    Apologies, I flipped the years when I wrote that. He also played for the Dodgers in '66 but was traded before they reached the series and lost to the O's.
    I flipped them too. I was thinking of 66 when they lost and left off 53, when he pitched but they lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JR Hart View Post
    I really searched and cannot find rosters. My guess is that he on, but didn't play. BTW, 1965 is the only 7 game WS where all 7 WP threw complete games.
    Thats interesting, That really makes me wonder if he was at least in the dugout during the WS. I would have t think he had a roster spot in that WS but again it's hard to get in games with Koufax and Drysdale.
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    Amos Strunk was another 4 player WS winner guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    Amos Strunk was another 4 player WS winner guy.
    You got it. Only one to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJC View Post
    You got it. Only one to go.
    Yeah i've been thinking of players and checking em as I go otherwise i'd have 20 extra posts on here. I remembered Amos Strunk from a draft we did recently.
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    Johnny Podres was on the post-season roster in 1965; he just didn't play in the World Series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macker View Post
    Johnny Podres was on the post-season roster in 1965; he just didn't play in the World Series.
    Can you find that on baseball reference?
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    Larry Gardner was the other 4 WS guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    Can you find that on baseball reference?
    No. I don't care what Baseball Reference has. Some of their data is erroneous, and they are slow to correct it (or accept corrections.) Multiple sources (The Sporting News World Series Record Book and Neft/Cohen's The World Series for two) indicate Podres was on the roster but didn't play. The Dodgers used only 20 players in the World Series in 1965. Podres was one of the ones who didn't play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    Larry Gardner was the other 4 WS guy.
    That's the last one. Congrats!

    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    On a side note Rube Marquard lost 5.
    This quote of yours from before made me think of a related trivia question. There are 10 players who have played in the WS on the losing side in at least 5 seasons. (No restriction on whether or not the player was ever on the Yankees with this question.) Marquard is one. Can anyone guess the other 9 without cheating?
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    Pee Wee Reese
    Gil Hodges
    Duke Snider
    Carl Furillo
    Roy Campanella???
    Billy Cox??
    Ralph Branca??
    Don Newcombe???
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    Pee Wee Reese
    Gil Hodges
    Duke Snider
    Carl Furillo
    Roy Campanella???
    Billy Cox??
    Ralph Branca??
    Don Newcombe???
    You got 3, including one of the two 6-timers.

    Pee Wee Reese (6: Dodgers 1941, '47, '49, '52-53, '56)
    Carl Furillo (5: Dodgers 1947, '49, '52-53, '56)
    Gil Hodges (5: Dodgers 1947, '49, '52-53, '56)

    Branca and Snider were good guesses -- each of them played on WS-winning teams in 5 seasons, but did not actually play in the WS in one of those seasons.

    6 to go.
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