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Thread: Overlooked player on this site 101: Hank Greenberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakshow View Post
    Actually, Briggs tended to favor hitters. This was for a couple reasons.

    When they enclosed the OF in 1936 it not only cut down the wind, it also provided a good hitting background. The bigger factor is that Detroit was the last park in the AL to install lights, in 1948 IIRC. By that time the technology and know-how had improved, so the Tigers had the best lighting in the league for 20 years. Obviously, it favors hitters when they can see the ball. The quality of lighting in MLB parks can be seen in the day-night splits, which were greater in the 1940's to 1970's than they are now.
    Went to a good number of games in Detroit years ago and one thing I did notice, very seldom windy, in any direction.
    True some homers can be wind blown and some drives can be held down but I think overall, no wind a positive for the hitter,
    Also that one that is so overlooked when park positives are discussed, great hitter's background, another park with that Fenway.
    Means a lot to the hitter, being able to pick up the ball as it leaves the pitchers hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    So who was the greatest Jewish ballplayer - Hank Greenberg or Sandy Koufax?
    One batter, one pitcher. It's left at that.

    As great as Greenberg was, he's probably best known for things off the field. Sitting out on Yom Kippur in the heat of the pennant race. Reenlisting days after Pearl Harbor. Openly embracing Jackie Robinson. Those, along with two legendary first base contemporaries and the short career, combine to keep him out of the discussion too much. The man is still revered. Maybe I am biased being from Detroit, where the Jewish community still talks about Greenberg. With Koufax, you have Larry King making up stories about growing up with him in Brooklyn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    So who was the greatest Jewish ballplayer - Hank Greenberg or Sandy Koufax?
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
    One batter, one pitcher. It's left at that.
    Exactly, it's apples & oranges, but the two of them together is a pretty impressive representation.

    And I have Al Rosen just a notch behind.
    What's the rumpus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by willshad View Post
    Maybe I should make that into a poll question: What season was Hank Greenberg's best season?
    Whichever season he posted the highest WAR, of course.
    My top 10 players:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Barry Bonds
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Willie Mays
    6. Alex Rodriguez
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Honus Wagner
    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    Whichever season he posted the highest WAR, of course.
    Please, please tell me this is sarcasm.
    What's the rumpus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
    Please, please tell me this is sarcasm.
    Duh.

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    My top 10 players:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Barry Bonds
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Willie Mays
    6. Alex Rodriguez
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Honus Wagner
    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    Duh.

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    Are you being sarcastic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVNICK View Post
    Are you being sarcastic?
    No, I'm not being sarcastic about being sarcastic.
    My top 10 players:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Barry Bonds
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Ted Williams
    5. Willie Mays
    6. Alex Rodriguez
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Honus Wagner
    9. Lou Gehrig
    10. Mickey Mantle

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    Duh.

    .....
    On this site, it's not as much a "duh" as you might think.
    What's the rumpus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
    On this site, it's not as much a "duh" as you might think.
    On this site, WAR isn't held as end-all, be-all as some might think some think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
    On this site, WAR isn't held as end-all, be-all as some might think some think.
    Not by the majority, certainly, but by some...
    What's the rumpus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
    Not by the majority, certainly, but by some...
    True, we've had posters who have. It's a matter of use, to me.
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    From the original Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract.

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    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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