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As it should since at that point, voting is closed. People don't generally look at archive forums for new topics, though. -
Players:
1. Mike Piazza
2. Jeff Bagwell
3. Roberto Alomar
4. Trevor Hoffman
5. Jeff Kent
6. Kenny Lofton
7. Tony Mullane
8. Ray Dandridge
9. Jake Beckley
10. Luis Aparicio
11. Eppa Rixey
12. Billy Pierce
Contributors:
1. Will Wheaton
2. Williams Wadsworth
3. Harry Caray
4. John Schuerholz
5. Shigeru MizuharaComment
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This isn't the typical old thread, though.Originally posted by jjpm74 View PostDave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
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We've got five votes so far in this project, one short of the quorum.Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.Comment
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I've PM'd those folks who voted in the last election and have been active at the site since the end of SeptemberSeen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.Comment
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Still in need of a sixth vote in this project. I'll make a post in the AIR project to see if that helps draw any more votes.Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.Comment
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Players
1. Mike Piazza
2. Jeff Bagwell
3. Mike Mussina
4. Jim Edmonds
5. Roberto Alomar
6. Kenny Lofton
7. John Donaldson
8. Tony Mullane
9. Jeff Kent
10. Sal Bando
11. Cannonball Bill Jackman
12. Spotswood Poles
Contributors
1. William Rufus Wheaton
2. Louis Fenn Wadsworth
3. Nick Young
4. Jim Mutrie
5. Lefty O'Doul"No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”Comment
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One week left in this election.Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.Comment
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Players:
1. Mike Piazza
2. Jeff Bagwell
3. Roberto Alomar
4. Mike Mussina
5. Kenny Lofton
6. Jeff Kent
7. Trevor Hoffman
8. Dan Quisenberry
9. Kirby Puckett
10. Luis Aparicio
11. Chino Smith
12. Sammy Sosa
Contributors:
1. Shigeru Mizuhara
2. Alex Pompez
3. John Scheurholtz
4. Red Smith
5. William WheatonComment
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Players
1. Jeff Bagwell
2. Mike Piazza
3. Roberto Alomar
4. Mike Mussina
5. Rafael Palmeiro
6. Trevor Hoffman
7. Jeff Kent
8. Eppa Rixey
9. Kevin Brown
10. Joe Sewell
11. Rollie Fingers
12. Luis Aparicio
An amazing year with five new additions leaves Wally Berger, Billy Pierce and Kirby Puckett wanting. Additional Backlog: Buddy Bell, Bobby Bonds, Jack Clark, Darrell Evans, Tommy John, Kenny Lofton, Carl Mays, Fred McGriff, Dale Murphy, Graig Nettles, Willie Randolph, Lee Smith
Contributors
1. John Schuerholz
2. Davey Johnson
3. Billy Martin
4. Doug Harvey
5. Bob Howsam
No change. Still waiting for their turn: Sy Berger, Augie Busch, Jocko Conlan, Cal Hubbard, Tim Murnane, Lou Piniella, Grantland Rice, and Red Schoendienst.Comment
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Ballot 2013:
1 Mike Piazza
2 Jeff Bagwell
3 Mike Mussina
4 Jim Edmonds
5 Kevin Brown
6 Kenny Lofton
7 Bret Saberhagen
8 Sammy Sosa
9 Darrell Evans
10 Roberto Alomar
11 Rafael Palmeiro
12 David Cone
Realizing I am late to the game, but why elect Jeff Kent and not Jim Edmonds?
Based on raw totals, Kent is impressive, but when you take into account the replacement level of players at this position (2B was/is on the order of 3B/CF), big years during easier to dominate/expansion NL seasons (late 90s/early 00s), mediocre/averagish defense/baserunning, I see him as falling short of our standards.
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...f_kent_retires - post 67, 79
Contributors: in case this makes a difference in election/meeting quorum, etc. - personal life has been crazy
1 Johnny Pesky
2 John Schierholtz
3 Shigeru Mizuhara
4 William Wheaton
5 Doug HarveyJacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-MarchandComment
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The election is over, with JarofFlies ballot counting. I don't have time to post the results until tonight or tomorrow.Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.Comment
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JarofFlies' contributor ballot was late, so that doesn't count. Sorry. We are inducting Roberto Alomar, Jeff Bagwell, and Mike Piazza among the players. Piazza and Bagwell were first and second, and Alomar was third and on every ballot, so he's in also. On the contributor side, we had a three way tie among Shigeru Mizuhara, William Wheaton, and John Schuerholtz. All were on the same number of ballots, so that meant going to the looking at the order voters listed the candidates on their ballots, and Mizuhara won that tiebreaker and thus became the inductee. The official results, players first:
Now the contributors:Code:106 Piazza, Mike 100 Bagwell, Jeff 79 Alomar, Roberto 73 Mussina, Mike 44 Kent, Jeff 43 Lofton, Kenny 25 Hoffman, Trevor 23 Edmonds, Jim 19 Puckett, Kirby 16 Palmiero, Rafael 15 McGriff, Fred 14 Brown, Kevin 13 Bando, Sal 13 Sosa, Sammy 11 Mullane , Tony 8 Aparicio, Luis 8 Enatsu, Yutaka 8 Smith, Chino 7 Belle, Albert 7 Rixey, Eppa 6 Donaldson, John 6 Saberhagen, Bret 5 Dandridge, Ray 5 Grimes , Burleigh 5 Quisenberry, Dan 5 Shocker, Urban 4 Beckley , Jake 4 Evans, Darrell 4 Munson, Thurman 4 Olerud, John 3 Duffy , Hugh 3 Sewell , Joe 3 Willaims, Bernie 2 Fingers, Rollie 2 Howard, Frank 2 Murphy, Dale 2 Nettles, Graig 1 Clarkson, Bus 1 Cone, David 1 Pierce, Billy 1 Pike, Lip 1 Poles, Spotswood
Code:15 Mizuhara, Shigeru 15 Schuerhotlz, John 15 Wheaton, William 11 Pompez, Alex 9 Smith, Red 8 Wadsworth, Louis 7 Harwell, Ernie 7 Martin, Billy 6 Harris , Bucky 5 Harvey, Doug 4 Johnson, Davey 4 McCarthy, Tommy 4 O'Doul, Lefty 3 Caray, Harry 3 Young, Nick 2 Mutrie, Jim 1 Conlan, Jocko 1 Howsam, Bob
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.Comment
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Members of the Best of Baseball Hall. Last election's inductees are in red.
Players
ContributorsCode:Hank Aaron Pete Alexander Dick Allen [COLOR="#FF0000"]Roberto Alomar[/COLOR] Cap Anson Luke Appling Richie Ashburn Earl Averill [COLOR="#FF0000"]Jeff Bagwell[/COLOR] Frank Baker Ernie Banks Ross Barnes John Beckwith Cool Papa Bell Johnny Bench Charlie Bennett Yogi Berra Akira Bessho Craig Biggio Bert Blyleven Wade Boggs Barry Bonds Lou Boudreau Ken Boyer Roger Bresnahan George Brett Lou Brock Dan Brouthers Mordecai Brown Ray Brown Willard Brown Jim Bunning Jesse Burkett Roy Campanella Rod Carew Max Carey Gary Carter Steve Carlton Bob Caruthers Perucho Cepeda Oscar Charleston Cupid Childs Will Clark Fred Clarke John Clarkson Roger Clemens Roberto Clemente Ty Cobb Mickey Cochrane Eddie Collins Jimmy Collins Roger Connor Stan Coveleski Sam Crawford Joe Cronin Bill Dahlen George Davis Andre Dawson Dizzy Dean Ed Delahanty Bill Dickey Martin Dihigo Joe DiMaggio Larry Doby Bobby Doerr Don Drysdale Dennis Eckersley Dwight Evans Buck Ewing Red Faber Bob Feller Wes Ferrell Carlton Fisk Elmer Flick Whitey Ford Willie Foster Nellie Fox Jimmie Foxx Bill Freehan Frankie Frisch Pud Galvin Lou Gehrig Charlie Gehringer Bob Gibson Josh Gibson Jack Glasscock Tom Glavine Joe Gordon George Gore Goose Goslin Goose Gossage Frank Grant Hank Greenberg Bobby Grich Heinie Groh Lefty Grove Tony Gwynn Stan Hack Billy Hamilton Isao Harimoto Gabby Hartnett Harry Heilmann Rickey Henderson Billy Herman Keith Hernandez Pete Hill Paul Hines Rogers Hornsby Carl Hubbell Kazuhisa Inao Monte Irvin Joe Jackson Reggie Jackson Ferguson Jenkins Hughie Jennings Grant "Home Run" Johnson Randy Johnson Walter Johnson Addie Joss Al Kaline Masaichi Kaneda Tim Keefe Willie Keeler Charlie Keller Joe Kelley King Kelly Harmon Killebrew Ralph Kiner Sandy Koufax Masaaki Koyama Nap LaJoie Barry Larkin Bob Lemon Buck Leonard Pop Lloyd Ted Lyons Biz Mackey Greg Maddux Sherry Magee Mickey Mantle Juan Marichal Eddie Mathews Christy Mathewson Willie Mays Willie McCovey Joe McGinnity Bid McPhee Joe Medwick Jose Mendez Minnie Minoso Johnny Mize Paul Molitor Dobie Moore Joe Morgan Eddie Murray Stan Musial Shigeo Nagashima Hal Newhouser Kid Nichols Phil Niekro Katsuya Nomura Hiromitsu Ochiai Sadaharu Oh Alejandro Oms Jim O'Rourke Mel Ott Satchel Paige Jim Palmer Gaylord Perry [COLOR="#FF0000"]Mike Piazza[/COLOR] Eddie Plank Charlie Radbourn Tim Raines Pee Wee Reese Rick Reuschel Cal Ripken, Jr. Robin Roberts Brooks Robinson Frank Robinson Jackie Robinson Bullet Joe Rogan Pete Rose Edd Roush Red Ruffing Amos Rusie Babe Ruth Nolan Ryan Ryne Sandberg Ron Santo Louis Santop Curt Schilling Mike Schmidt Tom Seaver Jimmy Sheckard Al Simmons Ted Simmons George Sisler Enos Slaughter Hilton Smith Ozzie Smith Reggie Smith John Smoltz Duke Snider Warren Spahn Tris Speaker Victor Starffin Willie Stargell Joe Start Turkey Stearnes Harry Stovey Mule Suttles Don Sutton Ezra Sutton Bill Terry Sam Thompson Luis Tiant Joe Torre Cristobal Torriente Alan Trammell Pie Traynor Quincy Trouppe Dazzy Vance Arky Vaughan Rube Waddell Honus Wagner Larry Walker Bobby Wallace Ed Walsh Paul Waner John M. Ward Willie Wells Zack Wheat Lou Whitaker Deacon White Hoyt Wilhelm Billy Williams Smoky Joe Williams Ted Williams Jud Wilson Dave Winfield George Wright Early Wynn Jimmy Wynn Carl Yastrzemski Cy Young Robin Yount
Code:Iso Abe Doc Adams Mel Allen Walter Alston Sparky Anderson Red Barber Ed Barrow Buzzue Bavasi Ed Bolden Alexander Cartwright O. P. Caylor Henry Chadwick Frank Chance Charlie Commiskey Charles Conlon Tom Connolly Bobby Cox Jim Creighton Jack Dunn Leo Durocher Al Munro Elias Billy Evans Bob Ferguson Rube Foster Ford Frick Pat Gillick Gus Greenlee Clark Griffith Ned Hanlon Vic Harris Whitey Herzog William Hulbert Miller Huggins Ban Johnson Tetsuharu Kawakami Bill Klem Kenesaw Landis Tommy Lasorda Tony LaRussa Al Lopez Connie Mack Larry MacPhail Joe McCarthy John McGraw Bill McKechnie Marvin Miller [COLOR="#FF0000"]Shigeru Mizuhara[/COLOR] David Neft Walter O'Malley Buck O'Neill Dickey Pearce Cum Posey A. J. Reach Francis Richter Branch Rickey Phil Rizzuto Jacob Ruppert Vin Scully Frank Selee Ben Shibe Matsutaro Shoriki Billy Southworth Al Spalding Alfred Spink J. G. T. Spink Casey Stengel C. I. Taylor Kazuto Tsuruoka Bill Veeck Earl Weaver George Weiss Sol White J. L. Wilkinson Dick Williams Harry Wright
Last edited by jalbright; 11-30-2013, 08:21 PM.Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.Comment
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No surprise on the player side; next year should also supply a number of candidates to keep us busy for a while. I suspect the old backlog will be pushed down by the modern players.
I'm ok with the Mizuhara election, but I didn't quite see the resume of Kawakami, Shoriki, or Tsuruoka when I looked at them. I'd like to get back to the western hemisphere at this point.Comment
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