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  1. #41
    I'll give the 600s a look soon, from the 500s group:

    10 guys that are personal hall of famers, + 1 who is pretty close.
    The common theme for these guys is good to excellent defensive value.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    521 John Olerud - outside HOF but a fine player
    530 Jim Edmonds
    535 Alan Trammell
    536 Tommy Leach
    539 Ozzie Smith
    542 Jimmy Collins
    548 Hughie Jennings
    550 Lou Whitaker
    553 Buck Ewing
    556 Scott Rolen
    585 Harry Hooper
    10 guys I am surprised to see rated this high:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    501 Ruben Sierra
    511 Bob Turley
    522 Buck Freeman
    543 Irish Meusel
    546 Cherokee Fisher
    549 Tom Brown
    552 Hugh Daily
    569 Pete Donohue
    576 Jack Tobin
    589 Dale Alexander

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jar of Flies View Post
    Fine ERA+ figures, but he played with an all-time defense behind him.

    I probably don't see him as a top 600 pitcher or 2000 player.
    Give me the 2000 players ahead of him! Would love to pick that list apart!!
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  3. #43
    I don't see any way that Sierra can be ahead of any of these other guys.

    501. Ruben Sierra
    521. John Olerud
    523. Tony Lazzeri
    530. Jim Edmonds
    535. Alan Trammell
    536. Tommy Leach
    539. Ozzie Smith
    542. Jimmy Collins
    548. Hughie Jennings
    550. Lou Whitaker
    553. Buck Ewing
    555. Jason Kendall
    556. Scott Rolen
    560. Jorge Posada
    563. Rollie Fingers
    574. Lee Smith
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavoyBG View Post
    I don't see any way that Sierra can be ahead of any of these other guys.

    501. Ruben Sierra
    521. John Olerud
    523. Tony Lazzeri
    530. Jim Edmonds
    535. Alan Trammell
    536. Tommy Leach
    539. Ozzie Smith
    542. Jimmy Collins
    548. Hughie Jennings
    550. Lou Whitaker
    553. Buck Ewing
    555. Jason Kendall
    556. Scott Rolen
    560. Jorge Posada
    563. Rollie Fingers
    574. Lee Smith
    Agreed. Sierra wasn''t even a good player and I consider all of those HOFers or borderline HOFers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francoeurstein View Post
    Sierra wasn''t even a good player
    I wouldn't go that far. He did have over 1300 RBIs. I'd say he was a good player from at least 1988-1992. He was only at all star in 1989 and 1991.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavoyBG View Post
    I wouldn't go that far. He did have over 1300 RBIs. I'd say he was a good player from at least 1988-1992. He was only at all star in 1989 and 1991.
    Let me rephrase that. He was a pretty solid player from '88-'92 with two very solid seasons wedged in between. From '93 to the end of his career he posted a 92 OPS+ while playing an atrocious outfield. His long stretch of mediocrity really stinks up his value. I'm curious to see what Sockeye's case is for Sierra being ranked ahead of guys like Rolen and Trammell that were better hitters and infinitely better defenders at premium positions.
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  7. #47
    Jim Edmonds: 530. That makes him somewhere in the range of 40- 45 among center fielders.

    Ditto for Trammell, Whitaker, O. Smith, Rolen at their positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRon View Post
    Jim Edmonds: 530. That makes him somewhere in the range of 40- 45 among center fielders.

    Ditto for Trammell, Whitaker, O. Smith, Rolen at their positions.
    That seems awful low. Those guys show up in a lot of people's top tens. (Whitaker more like 15-20).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVNICK View Post
    That seems awful low.
    Uh, yeah....

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    This is why it's also hard- at least for me- to evaluate Gary's lists as they come out in the reverse order, since I can't see the guys ahead and where they stand in his rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Give me the 2000 players ahead of him! Would love to pick that list apart!!
    Let me first say props for putting out a list of a 1000 players, it's quite an effort.

    After doing a rough draft/deep dive, Lundgren fell into the bubble top 2000 guys.
    Below are a potential top 2000 (just MLB type of value, no MLE, war, integration etc were under consideration).

    A. J. Burnett
    A. J. Pierzynski
    Aaron Boone
    Aaron Cook
    Aaron Harang
    Aaron Hill
    Aaron Robinson
    Aaron Rowand
    Aaron Sele
    Aaron Ward
    Abner Dalrymple
    Ad Gumbert
    Adam Dunn
    Adam Jones
    Adam Kennedy
    Adam LaRoche
    Adam Wainwright
    Addie Joss
    Adonis Terry
    Adrian Beltre
    Adrian Gonzalez
    Al Benton
    Al Brazle
    Al Bridwell
    Al Bumbry
    Al Dark
    Al Downing
    Al Fitzmorris
    Al Kaline
    Al Leiter
    Al Lopez
    Al Mamaux
    Al Maul
    Al McBean
    Al Oliver
    Al Orth
    Al Rosen
    Al Simmons
    Al Smith
    Al Spalding
    Al Worthington
    Alan Ashby
    Alan Trammell
    Albert Belle
    Albert Pujols
    Alejandro Pena
    Alex Fernandez
    Alex Gordon
    Alex Rios
    Alex Rodriguez
    Alexei Ramirez
    Alfonso Soriano
    Allie Reynolds
    Alvin Davis
    Amos Otis
    Amos Rusie
    Amos Strunk
    Andre Dawson
    Andre Ethier
    Andre Thornton
    Andrelton Simmons
    Andres Galarraga
    Andrew McCutchen
    Andruw Jones
    Andy Ashby
    Andy Benes
    Andy Messersmith
    Andy Pafko
    Andy Pettitte
    Andy Seminick
    Andy Van Slyke
    Angel Pagan
    Anibal Sanchez
    Anthony Rizzo
    Aramis Ramirez
    Arky Vaughan
    Arlie Latham
    Armando Benitez
    Aroldis Chapman
    Art Devlin
    Art Fletcher
    Art Howe
    Art Nehf
    Art Wilson
    Arthur Irwin
    Arthur Rhodes
    Asdrubal Cabrera
    Aubrey Huff
    Augie Galan
    Austin Jackson
    B. J. Surhoff
    Babe Adams
    Babe Herman
    Babe Phelps
    Babe Ruth
    Baby Doll Jacobson
    Bake McBride
    Barney McCosky
    Barney Pelty
    Barry Bonds
    Barry Larkin
    Barry Zito
    Bartolo Colon
    Ben Chapman
    Ben McDonald
    Ben Oglivie
    Ben Sanders
    Ben Sheets
    Ben Zobrist
    Bengie Molina
    Benito Santiago
    Benny Kauff
    Bernard Gilkey
    Bernie Carbo
    Bernie Williams
    Bert Blyleven
    Bert Campaneris
    Bert Cunningham
    Bid McPhee
    Bill Bernhard
    Bill Bradley
    Bill Bruton
    Bill Buckner
    Bill Campbell
    Bill Dahlen
    Bill Dickey
    Bill Dinneen
    Bill Doak
    Bill Donovan
    Bill Doran
    Bill Freehan
    Bill Gullickson
    Bill Hands
    Bill Henry
    Bill Hoffer
    Bill Hutchinson
    Bill Joyce
    Bill Lange
    Bill Lee
    Bill Lee
    Bill Madlock
    Bill Mazeroski
    Bill Melton
    Bill Monbouquette
    Bill Mueller
    Bill Nicholson
    Bill North
    Bill Russell
    Bill Sherdel
    Bill Singer
    Bill Skowron
    Bill Swift
    Bill Swift
    Bill Terry
    Bill Walker
    Bill White
    Billy Butler
    Billy Goodman
    Billy Hamilton
    Billy Herman
    Billy Hoeft
    Billy Johnson
    Billy Jurges
    Billy Nash
    Billy O'Dell
    Billy Pierce
    Billy Rhines
    Billy Rogell
    Billy Shindle
    Billy Southworth
    Billy Taylor
    Billy Wagner
    Billy Werber
    Billy Williams
    Bing Miller
    Bip Roberts
    Bo Diaz
    Bob Allison
    Bob Bailey
    Bob Bescher
    Bob Boone
    Bob Brenly
    Bob Buhl
    Bob Caruthers
    Bob Elliott
    Bob Ewing
    Bob Feller
    Bob Forsch
    Bob Friend
    Bob Gibson
    Bob Horner
    Bob Johnson
    Bob Knepper
    Bob Lemon
    Bob Meusel
    Bob Miller
    Bob Muncrief
    Bob Nieman
    Bob O'Farrell
    Bob Ojeda
    Bob Porterfield
    Bob Purkey
    Bob Rush
    Bob Shaw
    Bob Shawkey
    Bob Smith
    Bob Stanley
    Bob Tewksbury
    Bob Turley
    Bob Veale
    Bob Watson
    Bob Welch
    Bob Wickman
    Bobby Abreu
    Bobby Avila
    Bobby Bolin
    Bobby Bonds
    Bobby Bonilla
    Bobby Byrne
    Bobby Doerr
    Bobby Grich
    Bobby Higginson
    Bobby Knoop
    Bobby Lowe
    Bobby Mathews
    Bobby Murcer
    Bobby Shantz
    Bobby Thomson
    Bobby Tolan
    Bobby Veach
    Bobby Wallace
    Bobo Newsom
    Boog Powell
    Brad Ausmus
    Brad Lidge
    Brad Penny
    Brad Radke
    Brad Ziegler
    Brady Anderson
    Brandon Belt
    Brandon Crawford
    Brandon Inge
    Brandon Phillips
    Brandon Webb
    Bret Boone
    Bret Saberhagen
    Brett Butler
    Brett Gardner
    Brett Myers
    Brian Downing
    Brian Dozier
    Brian Giles
    Brian Jordan
    Brian McCann
    Brian Roberts
    Brickyard Kennedy
    Britt Burns
    Bronson Arroyo
    Brooks Robinson
    Bruce Hurst
    Bruce Sutter
    Bryce Harper
    Bubbles Hargrave
    Buck Ewing
    Buck Freeman
    Buck Herzog
    Buck Weaver
    Bucky Dent
    Bucky Harris
    Bucky Walters
    Bud Harrelson
    Buddy Bell
    Buddy Black
    Buddy Lewis
    Buddy Myer
    Bullet Joe Bush
    Bump Hadley
    Bump Wills
    Burleigh Grimes
    Burt Hooton
    Burt Shotton
    Buster Posey
    Butch Wynegar
    C. J. Wilson
    Cal Eldred
    Cal McVey
    Cal Ripken
    Camilo Pascual
    Candy Cummings
    Candy Nelson
    Cap Anson
    Carl Crawford
    Carl Everett
    Carl Furillo
    Carl Hubbell
    Carl Mays
    Carl Morton
    Carl Pavano
    Carl Reynolds
    Carl Weilman
    Carl Yastrzemski
    Carlos Baerga
    Carlos Beltran
    Carlos Delgado
    Carlos Gomez
    Carlos Gonzalez
    Carlos Guillen
    Carlos Lee
    Carlos Pena
    Carlos Ruiz
    Carlos Santana
    Carlos Zambrano
    Carlton Fisk
    Carney Lansford
    Casey Blake
    Casey Stengel
    Cass Michaels
    Catfish Hunter
    CC Sabathia
    Cecil Cooper
    Cecil Fielder
    Cecil Travis
    Cesar Cedeno
    Cesar Tovar
    Chad Billingsley
    Chan Ho Park
    Charles Johnson
    Charles Nagy
    Charley Jones
    Charlie Bennett
    Charlie Buffinton
    Charlie Ferguson
    Charlie Gehringer
    Charlie Hickman
    Charlie Hollocher
    Charlie Hough
    Charlie Jamieson
    Charlie Keller
    Charlie Leibrandt
    Charlie Maxwell
    Charlie Neal
    Charlie Root
    Charlie Sweeney
    Chase Headley
    Chase Utley
    Cherokee Fisher
    Chet Lemon
    Chick Gandil
    Chick Hafey
    Chick Stahl
    Chicken Wolf
    Chico Carrasquel
    Chief Bender
    Chief Meyers
    Chief Wilson
    Chief Zimmer
    Chien-Ming Wang
    Chili Davis
    Chipper Jones
    Chone Figgins
    Chris Bosio
    Chris Carpenter
    Chris Chambliss
    Chris Davis
    Chris Hammond
    Chris Hoiles
    Chris Iannetta
    Chris Sabo
    Chris Sale
    Chris Short
    Chris Speier
    Christy Mathewson
    Chuck Finley
    Chuck Klein
    Chuck Knoblauch
    Chuck Stobbs
    Clarence Mitchell
    Clark Griffith
    Claude Hendrix
    Claude Osteen
    Claude Passeau
    Claude Ritchey
    Claudell Washington
    Clay Buchholz
    Clay Carroll
    Clay Dalrymple
    Clayton Kershaw
    Clem Labine
    Cleon Jones
    Clete Boyer
    Cliff Floyd
    Cliff Johnson
    Cliff Lee
    Cliff Melton
    Clint Brown
    Clyde McCullough
    Clyde Milan
    Coco Crisp
    Colby Rasmus
    Cole Hamels
    Connie Ryan
    Corey Kluber
    Corey Koskie
    Craig Biggio
    Craig Counsell
    Craig Kimbrel
    Craig Reynolds
    Cristian Guzman
    Cupid Childs
    Curt Davis
    Curt Flood
    Curt Schilling
    Curt Simmons
    Curt Walker
    Curt Welch
    Curtis Granderson
    Cy Falkenberg
    Cy Seymour
    Cy Williams
    Cy Young
    Dale Murphy
    Damion Easley
    Dan Brouthers
    Dan Casey
    Dan Driessen
    Dan Haren
    Dan McGann
    Dan Plesac
    Dan Quisenberry
    Dan Uggla
    Daniel Murphy
    Danny Darwin
    Danny Green
    Danny Jackson
    Danny Litwhiler
    Danny MacFayden
    Danny Murphy
    Danny Richardson
    Danny Tartabull
    Darby O'Brien
    Darin Erstad
    Darold Knowles
    Darrell Evans
    Darrell Porter
    Darren Daulton
    Darren O'Day
    Darren Oliver
    Darrin Fletcher
    Darryl Kile
    Darryl Strawberry
    Daryl Spencer
    Dave Bancroft
    Dave Burba
    Dave Cash
    Dave Concepcion
    Dave Foutz
    Dave Giusti
    Dave Goltz
    Dave Henderson
    Dave Hollins
    Dave Kingman
    Dave Koslo
    Dave LaRoche
    Dave Magadan
    Dave McNally
    Dave Orr
    Dave Parker
    Dave Righetti
    Dave Roberts
    Dave Smith
    Dave Stewart
    Dave Stieb
    Dave Winfield
    Davey Johnson
    Davey Lopes
    David Cone
    David Eckstein
    David Freese
    David Justice
    David Ortiz
    David Price
    David Ross
    David Weathers
    David Wells
    David Wright
    Davy Force
    Davy Jones
    Dazzy Vance
    Deacon McGuire
    Deacon Phillippe
    Deacon White
    Dean Chance
    Del Crandall
    Del Ennis
    Del Pratt
    Delino DeShields
    Denard Span
    Denis Menke
    Dennis Eckersley
    Dennis Lamp
    Dennis Leonard
    Dennis Martinez
    Denny Galehouse
    Denny Lyons
    Denny McLain
    Denny Neagle
    Derek Jeter
    Derek Lowe
    Derrek Lee
    Devon White
    Dexter Fowler
    Dick Allen
    Dick Bartell
    Dick Dietz
    Dick Donovan
    Dick Drago
    Dick Ellsworth
    Dick Green
    Dick Groat
    Dick Hall
    Dick McAuliffe
    Dick McBride
    Dick Radatz
    Dick Rudolph
    Dick Schofield
    Dickie Thon
    Diego Segui
    Dixie Walker
    Dizzy Dean
    Dizzy Trout
    Doc Crandall
    Doc Medich
    Doc White
    Dock Ellis
    Dode Paskert
    Doggie Miller
    Dolf Luque
    Dolph Camilli
    Dom DiMaggio
    Don Aase
    Don Baylor
    Don Blasingame
    Don Buford
    Don Drysdale
    Don Gullett
    Don Hoak
    Don Larsen
    Don Mattingly
    Don McMahon
    Don Mincher
    Don Money
    Don Mossi
    Don Newcombe
    Don Robinson
    Don Slaught
    Don Sutton
    Don Wilson
    Donie Bush
    Donn Clendenon
    Dontrelle Willis
    Dots Miller
    Doug Davis
    Doug DeCinces
    Doug Drabek
    Doug Fister
    Doug Jones
    Doug Rader
    Doyle Alexander
    Duffy Lewis
    Duke Esper
    Duke Farrell
    Duke Sims
    Duke Snider
    Dummy Hoy
    Dupee Shaw
    Dustin Pedroia
    Dusty Baker
    Dutch Leonard
    Dutch Leonard
    Dutch Ruether
    Dwayne Murphy
    Dwight Evans
    Dwight Gooden
    Earl Averill
    Earl Battey
    Earl Hamilton
    Earl Moore
    Earl Torgeson
    Earl Whitehill
    Earl Wilson
    Earle Combs
    Early Wynn
    Ed Bailey
    Ed Brandt
    Ed Charles
    Ed Delahanty
    Ed Killian
    Ed Konetchy
    Ed McFarland
    Ed McKean
    Ed Morris
    Ed Reulbach
    Ed Seward
    Ed Siever
    Ed Stein
    Ed Swartwood
    Ed Walsh
    Ed Whitson
    Edd Roush
    Eddie Bressoud
    Eddie Cicotte
    Eddie Collins
    Eddie Foster
    Eddie Guardado
    Eddie Joost
    Eddie Lake
    Eddie Lopat
    Eddie Mathews
    Eddie Miller
    Eddie Murray
    Eddie Plank
    Eddie Robinson
    Eddie Rommel
    Eddie Smith
    Eddie Stanky
    Eddie Yost
    Edgar Martinez
    Edgar Renteria
    Edgardo Alfonzo
    Edwin Encarnacion
    Elam Vangilder
    Elbie Fletcher
    Elden Auker
    Ellie Rodriguez
    Ellis Burks
    Ellis Kinder
    Ellis Valentine
    Elmer Flick
    Elmer Valo
    Elston Howard
    Elvis Andrus
    Emil Gross
    Emmet Heidrick
    Enos Slaughter
    Eppa Rixey
    Eric Chavez
    Eric Davis
    Eric Gagne
    Eric Show
    Eric Soderholm
    Eric Young
    Erick Aybar
    Erik Bedard
    Erik Hanson
    Ernie Banks
    Ernie Broglio
    Ernie Lombardi
    Ernie Whitt
    Ervin Santana
    Esteban Loaiza
    Evan Longoria
    Ewell Blackwell
    Ezra Sutton
    Felipe Alou
    Felix Hernandez
    Fergie Jenkins
    Fernando Valenzuela
    Ferris Fain
    Fielder Jones
    Firpo Marberry
    Floyd Bannister
    Floyd Robinson
    Francisco Cordero
    Francisco Liriano
    Francisco Rodriguez
    Frank Bolling
    Frank Chance
    Frank Demaree
    Frank Dwyer
    Frank Fennelly
    Frank Foreman
    Frank Howard
    Frank Killen
    Frank Kitson
    Frank Lary
    Frank Linzy
    Frank McCormick
    Frank Robinson
    Frank Schulte
    Frank Smith
    Frank Snyder
    Frank Sullivan
    Frank Tanana
    Frank Thomas
    Frank Viola
    Frank White
    Frankie Crosetti
    Frankie Frisch
    Frankie Hayes
    Fred Carroll
    Fred Clarke
    Fred Dunlap
    Fred Hutchinson
    Fred Luderus
    Fred Lynn
    Fred McGriff
    Fred Merkle
    Fred Pfeffer
    Fred Snodgrass
    Fred Tenney
    Fred Toney
    Freddie Fitzsimmons
    Freddie Freeman
    Freddie Lindstrom
    Freddie Patek
    Freddy Garcia
    Freddy Parent
    Fritz Ostermueller
    Fritz Peterson
    Gabby Hartnett
    Garret Anderson
    Garry Maddox
    Garry Templeton
    Gary Carter
    Gary Gaetti
    Gary Lavelle
    Gary Matthews
    Gary Matthews
    Gary Nolan
    Gary Peters
    Gary Pettis
    Gary Redus
    Gary Roenicke
    Gary Sheffield
    Gary Ward
    Gavvy Cravath
    Gaylord Perry
    Gee Walker
    Gene Alley
    Gene Conley
    Gene DeMontreville
    Gene Garber
    Gene Moore
    Gene Tenace
    Gene Woodling
    General Crowder
    Geoff Jenkins
    Geoff Zahn
    George Bell
    George Blaeholder
    George Bradley
    George Brett
    George Burns
    George Burns
    George Case
    George Davis
    George Earnshaw
    George Foster
    George Gibson
    George Gore
    George Grantham
    George Haddock
    George Hemming
    George Hendrick
    George Kell
    George McBride
    George McQuillan
    George McQuinn
    George Mogridge
    George Mullin
    George Pinkney
    George Scott
    George Selkirk
    George Sisler
    George Stone
    George Suggs
    George Uhle
    George Van Haltren
    George Wood
    George Wright
    George Zettlein
    Geovany Soto
    Germany Smith
    Gerry Staley
    Giancarlo Stanton
    Gil Hodges
    Gil McDougald
    Ginger Beaumont
    Gio Gonzalez
    Glenn Beckert
    Glenn Davis
    Glenn Hubbard
    Glenn Wright
    Goose Goslin
    Gorman Thomas
    Grady Sizemore
    Graig Nettles
    Granny Hamner
    Grant Jackson
    Greg Gagne
    Greg Harris
    Greg Luzinski
    Greg Maddux
    Greg Minton
    Greg Swindell
    Greg Vaughn
    Gregg Jefferies
    Gregg Olson
    Gregg Zaun
    Gus Mancuso
    Gus Suhr
    Gus Triandos
    Gus Weyhing
    Guy Bush
    Guy Hecker
    Hack Wilson
    Hal Carlson
    Hal Chase
    Hal McRae
    Hal Newhouser
    Hal Schumacher
    Hal Trosky
    Hank Aaron
    Hank Aguirre
    Hank Bauer
    Hank Borowy
    Hank Gowdy
    Hank Greenberg
    Hank Majeski
    Hank Sauer
    Hank Severeid
    Hank Thompson
    Hank Wyse
    Hanley Ramirez
    Hans Lobert
    Happy Felsch
    Hardie Henderson
    Hardy Richardson
    Harlond Clift
    Harmon Killebrew
    Harold Baines
    Harry Brecheen
    Harry Coveleski
    Harry Danning
    Harry Davis
    Harry Gumbert
    Harry Heilmann
    Harry Hooper
    Harry Howell
    Harry Lumley
    Harry Staley
    Harry Steinfeldt
    Harry Stovey
    Harvey Haddix
    Harvey Kuenn
    Hector Lopez
    Heinie Groh
    Heinie Manush
    Heinie Peitz
    Heinie Wagner
    Heinie Zimmerman
    Henry Boyle
    Henry Larkin
    Herb Pennock
    Herb Score
    Herman Long
    Hideki Matsui
    Hideo Nomo
    High Pockets Kelly
    Hippo Vaughn
    Hiroki Kuroda
    Hobe Ferris
    Home Run Baker
    Honus Wagner
    Hooks Dauss
    Hooks Wiltse
    Hoot Evers
    Howard Ehmke
    Howard Johnson
    Howie Camnitz
    Howie Kendrick
    Howie Pollet
    Hoyt Wilhelm
    Hub Collins
    Hubie Brooks
    Hugh Casey
    Hugh Daily
    Hugh Duffy
    Hughie Jennings
    Hunter Pence
    Huston Street
    Ian Desmond
    Ian Kennedy
    Ian Kinsler
    Ice Box Chamberlain
    Ichiro Suzuki
    Ira Flagstead
    Irish Meusel
    Irv Noren
    Ismael Valdez
    Ival Goodman
    Ivan Rodriguez
    Ivey Wingo
    Ivy Andrews
    J. A. Happ
    J. D. Drew
    J. J. Hardy
    J. J. Putz
    J. R. Richard
    Jack Barry
    Jack Burdock
    Jack Chesbro
    Jack Clark
    Jack Clements
    Jack Coombs
    Jack Doyle
    Jack Farrell
    Jack Fournier
    Jack Glasscock
    Jack Harshman
    Jack Kralick
    Jack Kramer
    Jack Lapp
    Jack McDowell
    Jack Morris
    Jack O'Brien
    Jack Powell
    Jack Quinn
    Jack Rowe
    Jack Russell
    Jack Sanford
    Jack Scott
    Jack Stivetts
    Jack Taylor
    Jack Taylor
    Jack Wilson
    Jackie Brandt
    Jackie Jensen
    Jackie Robinson
    Jacoby Ellsbury
    Jake Arrieta
    Jake Beckley
    Jake Daubert
    Jake Peavy
    Jake Stenzel
    Jake Weimer
    James Shields
    Jamie Moyer
    Jarrod Washburn
    Jason Bartlett
    Jason Bay
    Jason Giambi
    Jason Heyward
    Jason Isringhausen
    Jason Kendall
    Jason Kipnis
    Jason Schmidt
    Jason Thompson
    Jason Varitek
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    Yu Darvish
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    Zane Smith
    Zeke Bonura
    Zoilo Versalles

    Made minor tweaks at the margins, noticed that I had only 1 Bill Lee, Dutch Leonard, Jack Taylor, and Bill Swifts, but should include 2.
    Last edited by Jar of Flies; Yesterday at 01:44 PM.

  12. #52
    From the 600s, 12 on the border or in my personal hall:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    609 Willie Randolph
    632 Dave Bancroft
    639 Yadier Molina
    640 Brian Giles
    641 Chase Utley
    649 Rich Gossage
    652 Graig Nettles
    653 Jim Wynn
    662 Bobby Grich
    676 Thurman Munson
    696 Joe Mauer
    10 guys I was surprised were this high:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    608 Larry Jansen
    610 Bug Holliday
    613 Joe Vosmik
    617 Vinny Castilla
    620 Guy Bush
    633 Carlos Lee
    658 Fred Goldsmith
    664 Ralph Terry
    683 Kirby Higbe
    693 Luis Castillo
    Last edited by Jar of Flies; 03-22-2017 at 05:44 PM.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    426. Doc Cramer
    You got to be kidding us with this guy higher than Trammell and Whitaker and Rolen!

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  15. #55
    300-499, 20 guys I'm surprised are rated this low:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    308 Jackie Robinson
    334 Roberto Alomar
    341 Wes Ferrell
    354 Lou Boudreau
    372 George Davis
    380 Bobby Bonds
    382 Bill Dahlen
    386 Ted Simmons
    396 Mickey Cochrane
    405 Barry Larkin
    415 Gary Carter
    428 Gabby Hartnett
    429 Reggie Smith
    432 Mariano Rivera
    433 Bill Dickey
    442 Ivan Rodriguez
    452 Joe Gordon
    466 Jack Glasscock
    478 Carlton Fisk
    498 Cole Hamels
    20 guys I'm surprised are rated this high:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    306 Harvey Kuenn
    328 Michael Young
    340 Denny McLain
    346 Dante Bichette
    350 Dave McNally
    356 Joe Carter
    361 Prince Fielder
    363 Jeff Tesreau
    367 Ryan Howard
    378 Jackie Jensen
    395 Mark Baldwin
    416 Vic Raschi
    417 Lloyd Waner
    426 Doc Cramer
    441 J.R. Richard
    448 Bill Buckner
    464 Larry Cheney
    469 Juan Pierre
    482 Eddie Yost
    492 Cecil Fielder
    Dante Bichette, Doc Cramer, and Juan Pierre fell short of my rough draft top 2000 list.

  16. #56
    From 100 to 300, 20 guys I'm surprised are this low:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    111 Eddie Mathews
    114 Al Kaline
    116 Mike Mussina
    121 Bert Blyleven
    124 Cal Ripken
    140 Joe Morgan
    145 Frankie Frisch
    172 Kevin Brown
    180 Johnny Bench
    211 Chipper Jones
    212 Mike Piazza
    240 Luke Appling
    244 Ted Lyons
    252 Ron Santo
    254 Brooks Robinson
    261 Fred Clarke
    280 Joe Cronin
    283 Dennis Eckersley
    286 Bret Saberhagen
    296 Yogi Berra
    From 100 to 300, 20 guys I'm surprised are this high:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    106 Jim Rice
    127 Catfish Hunter
    137 Jack Morris
    153 Heinie Manush
    161 Jim Bottomley
    163 Larry Corcoran
    188 Tip O'Neill
    190 Allie Reynolds
    195 Hack Wilson
    202 Juan Gonzalez
    214 Alfonso Soriano
    218 Adam Dunn
    219 Paul Konerko
    220 Dave Kingman
    221 Andres Galarraga
    237 Lew Burdette
    241 Paul Derringer
    278 George Kell
    282 Mickey Vernon
    288 Mike Cuellar

  17. #57
    First off, welcome back! It's been a while since I've seen you around and your contributions have been missed. I am very impressed by this entry, as an example. (Can't wait to see the top 100.)

    I'll save specific comments for after I've gone through the list a little more thoroughly as I just stumbled on this thread, but I do want to ask you to please clarify the rankings of the following as there appears to be some duplication on the list as listed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    420. Jeff Kent
    421. Jon Lester
    422. Jake Daubert
    423. Jack Fournier
    424. Al Orth
    425. Mark Langston
    426. Ted Kluszewski
    427. Hal Trosky
    428. Ross Youngs
    429. Dolf Luque
    430. Hardy Richardson
    431. Dean Chance
    432. Bernie Williams
    433. General Crowder
    424. Cal McVey
    425. Frank Tanana
    426. Doc Cramer
    427. Wally Berger
    428. Gabby Hartnett
    429. Reggie Smith
    430. Bert Campaneris
    431. Sal Maglie
    432. Mariano Rivera
    433. Bill Dickey
    434. Gil Hodges
    435. Johnny Damon
    436. Harry Davis
    437. George Zettlein
    438. Luis Gonzalez
    439. Ray Kremer
    440. Bill Madlock
    Also, this one.

    1000. Bill Walker
    1000. Tino Martinez
    Could you clarify what the actual rankings are because your 900 spots listed (#101-#1000) actually include 911 players. Just want to make sure I know who is ranked ahead of whom.

    Thanks, again!
    "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
    "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
    "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
    "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Chadwick View Post
    First off, welcome back! It's been a while since I've seen you around and your contributions have been missed. I am very impressed by this entry, as an example. (Can't wait to see the top 100.)

    Could you clarify what the actual rankings are because your 900 spots listed (#101-#1000) actually include 911 players. Just want to make sure I know who is ranked ahead of whom.

    Thanks, again!
    Seconded, and excited for your top 100!

  19. #59
    10 guys I was surprised are this high:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    31 Nolan Ryan
    36 Miguel Cabrera
    45 Whitey Ford
    54 Tony Gwynn
    57 Harry Heilmann
    59 Joe Medwick
    60 Mordecai Brown
    64 Sam Thompson
    66 Chuck Klein
    99 Hugh Duffy
    5 guys I was surprised were this low:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sockeye View Post
    Here is at long last my top 1000 HOF worthy players of all time. I'll reveal the list in reverse order 100 or more at time as time permits. Hopefully this will allow for some good discussion on the lower ranking and/or still active players. Please note this is based on major league playing career only. No Negro league, Japan, Mexico, or PCL careers are considered.

    13 Willie Mays
    14 Barry Bonds
    26 Tris Speaker
    50 Eddie Collins
    89 Rickey Henderson

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