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    Hall of Good Character

    So if the Hall of Fame was more about good character than is was about stats, what would it look like?

    For example, who in the hall would be out? Who outside the Hall would be in?
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    Some of what constitutes as "good character" today may not have been so 100 years ago, when players were expected to get in the occasional scuff (even with fans). There are still fights in today's game, but no one challenges another player to an actual fistfight outside of the game. Nor are there any instances of someone knocking out another guy's teeth if he spots in him in town somewhere. Not to mention the tolerance of racism. So I think any list of exclusions ought to deal with moral character that isn't acceptable in any era decade rather than decrying Cobb's racism or McGraw's brawls.

    Kind of late, so I'll give some of mine tomorrow.
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    I'll bite Here is my Hall of Good Character

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    Buck O'Niell
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    Monte Irvin
    Orel Hershiser
    Ozzie Smith
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    Roberto Clemente
    Roger Maris
    Roy Campanella
    Sandy Koufax
    Stan Musial
    Terry Pendleton
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    Tom Seaver
    Tommy John
    Tony Gwynn
    Tony Oliva
    Tony Taylor
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1905 Giants View Post
    So if the Hall of Fame was more about good character than is was about stats, what would it look like?

    For example, who in the hall would be out? Who outside the Hall would be in?
    It would look empty. It may have plaques on the walls. It may have exhibits. But it sure as hell wouldn't have visitors.
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    Finally, a Hall for Pops Haines and Sunny Jim where they won't be cursed for being there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr28 View Post
    Finally, a Hall for Pops Haines and Sunny Jim where they won't be cursed for being there.
    I would think such a Hall would have no cursing allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVNICK View Post
    I would think such a Hall would have no cursing allowed.
    Guess that means Snoopy is out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVNICK View Post
    I would think such a Hall would have no cursing allowed.
    HA! Great point! That reminds me of a story that broke a decade or so ago out of Capitol Hill. The Senate had just finished a session one day where they voted on new rules of decorum, with points about the language that they agreed on was unacceptable for use in their hallowed halls. Anyway, right after that day ended, Vice President Dick Cheney started cussing out a Democratic senator in front of everyone, using that language they just said they wouldn't use. My wife clipped out a political cartoon from the paper after that happened with the caption: "Ladies and Gentlemen, the Vice President of the United States" and a drawing of a toilet bowl viewed from above, with Dick's sneering eyes and glasses at the back end of the seat. Hilarious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1905 Giants View Post
    So if the Hall of Fame was more about good character than is was about stats, what would it look like?

    For example, who in the hall would be out? Who outside the Hall would be in?
    Hank Gowdy would be a 1st ballot HOFer.

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    If we are being serious Eddie Grant had a plaque outside or in the Polo Grounds after being killed in action in WWI.

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    I am not even going to try. There was a point that Kirby Puckett would have likely been inducted first-ballot.
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