hmm this could be interesting
would the Red Sox be able to include Manny?
if so, I'd add Williams-Yaz-Manny
but he spent more of his career with the Indians i believe
hmm this could be interesting
would the Red Sox be able to include Manny?
if so, I'd add Williams-Yaz-Manny
but he spent more of his career with the Indians i believe
Last edited by Blackout; 10-02-2005 at 06:56 PM.
If you're talking about outfielders who actually played together:
1970s Red Sox: Rice-Lynn-Evans
1910s Red Sox: Lewis-Speaker-Hooper
late 1930s Yanks: Keller-DiMaggio-Henrich
This year is Manny's 5th year in Boston out of 13 total. But his production over those 5 years are impressive enough to be included in the red sox all time outfield.Originally Posted by blackout805
--All 3 of those guys were LF and only Yaz was a GOOD LF. That would be a horrendous defensive OF.
Dehleanty Hamilton Thompson' s the best outfield ever
Best in today's game off the top of my head:
1. Manny Ramirez/Johnny Damon/Trot Nixon
2. Vlad Guerrero/Steve Finley/Garret Anderson
3. Barry Bonds/Moises Alou/Randy Winn
4. Adam Dunn/Ken Griffey/Willy Mo Pena
5. Tori Hunter/Jaque Jones/Shannon Stewart
damn right, no question about it. Say what you like about 1894, but the only all .400 outfield tops the list.Originally Posted by yest
And I like the creative spelling there too.
Ruth, DiMaggio and Mantle are the obvious top choice for a franchise outfield, but Speaker, Williams and a Yaz/Manny platoon would be pretty respectable as well.
Ruth, DiMaggio, Mantle is topps, but I like Delahanty, Hamilton, Thompson too.
For a wildcard pick: R. Henderson, D.Henderson, Canseco
"With Babe Ruth drawing only $3,500 last year, where does Grover Alexander get off demanding $15,000? Babe is the best pitcher in the country today." - The Sporting News, 2/8/17
"...he has made a national reputation as a slugger all right, and it is really laughable to see the backward parade of the three rival outfielders whenever the Babe steps up to bat." - Boston Post, 8/15/15
Hitting .400 wasn't really that big a deal in 1894. The league averaged .309, and Hugh Duffy hit .440.
Come on, if you're going to say that, then hitting .400 wasn't a big deal in the 20's either. Christ the NL hit .303 in 1930- do the names Hack Wilson and Bill Terry ring any bells.
But the point was that those three are an or the all-time outfield who played TOGETHER. They were together for years anyhow, not just 94, that was simply their offensive peak.
Are there any other all HOF outfields who played together during their prime? Not like the 28 A's or anything, but all during their peak years.
--Ty Cobb, Sam Crawford and Bobby Veach played together for the Tigers for several peaks years for all three. Veach isn't a Hall of Famer, but he is close to that standard. Cobb was significantly better than any of the Phillie trio and Crawford was also probably better than any of them.
--Ruth and Combs were also 2/3 of a Hall OF, with Bob Muesel about as good as Veach. Combs is a questionable selection, however, and not as good as Crawford or any of the 3 Phillies.
--Not coming up with another 3 HoFer at their peak OF. Any other 2 HoF plus a very good player groups come to mind?
P.S. Honus Wagner and Fred Clarke played the OF together several years before Honus settled at SS. In 1900 at least they were joined by Ginger Beaumont, who was as good as Veach and Muesel (and perhaps better than Combs, although Combs is in the Coop and Beaumont is not). Speaker, Hooper (another weak HoFer IMO) and Duffy Lewis (not as good as Veach or Muesel) had several season together.
Oscar Charleston, Cool Papa Bell, Jimmie Crutchfield of the Pittsburgh Crawfords.
It wasn't an outfield that lasted a long time but. . .
Hack Wilson, Riggs Stephenson, and Kiki Cuyler. When they were firing on all cylinders they were just as deadly as any outfield out there.
Or the "it sounds good but never was. . . "
Billy Williams, Lou Brock, and Big George Altman
Two HoF'ers and an all star. Sounds great never produced. George was in his prime, Lou was a struggling to find himself and would soon be traded and Billy Williams was still a pup and wouldn't hit his stride until much later.
In 1961, you had Mantle, 61* Maris and Yogi Berra in the outfield for the Yanks (Yogi played 87 games in the outfield). Of course, Yogi was getting up there in years and was platooning with .222 hitting Hector Lopez, so left field probably wasn't the strongest link in that chain...
Ruth, Dimaggio, Mantle slighty over Mays, Bonds, Ott.
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For two HOF players and a gold-glove CF: the 1942 Cardinals (Enos Slaughter, Stan Musial, and Terry Moore). OPS+ of 156, 151, and 114, respectively.
In the same year, the Yankees may have had one of the best ever outfields, too. DiMaggio, Keller and Henrich had OPS+ values of 121, 147, and 163.
Now, without looking it up, which one had which OPS+?
The three Yankees were even better the year before, scoring OPS+ of 184 (Joe), 162 (Charlie) and 136 (Tommy).
All time easily Ruth, Dimaggio, Mantle
Second easily Bonds, Mays, Ott
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Originally Posted by Sultan_1895-1948
Loved the OF of Delahanty, Hamilton and Thompson...
Other good ones:
1887 Wolverines
Sam Thompson
Ned Hanlon
Hardy Richardson
Mid 1890's O's:
Steve Brodie
Willie Keeler
Joe Kelley
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The '61 Yanks fielded Mantle in CF, Maris in RF, and Berra in LF.Originally Posted by leecemark
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That would be the best outfield that had ever played together.Originally Posted by leecemark
But with the rules of the poll, I voted the Yankees.
Others:
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Andre Dawson, Tim Raines and Warren Cromartie
This is pretty straightfoward, but I'm surprised that Mays, Bonds, and Ott haven't received any support. I think I'd take them over Cobb, Crawford, and Kaline (who have 1 vote).
bigstellypadres4life is also the same guy who thinks trevor hoffman is better than mariano riveraOriginally Posted by DoubleX
his vote is very suspect
I voted for the Yanks. But I have no problem with the Tigers. three great hitters. And few could argue that Kaline had one of the top ten OF arms in the last 50 years.. Fropm what I understand Cobb and Crawford weren't slouches withe the glove, either.Originally Posted by DoubleX
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