I believe that Barry did not know he was using steroids, when his trainer gave him Clear/Cream.
I believe that Barry was aware he was using steroids, when given Clear/Cream.
I have now dropped Barry Bonds below my Top 10 Position Players.
I still have Barry Bonds in my Top 10 Position Players.
I and I am sure most real baseball fans found that fact to be a terrible injustice and thats putting it mildly.
A shame that some of the greatest ballplayers were not in MLB because of skin color.
It can't be undone, it's in the past. Not the same with chemical use, in just about all sports in recent years PED use is banned, athletes are aware of that.
The steroid era records have to stand, I see no problem with that, even though I like many other fans look down on PED use in baseball and for that matter all sports. That clean players have to compete with other players using chemicals to boost peformance.
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But it's not OK, that players , who wanted to do well, took a performance enhancing substance, often just to compete with the rest of league, who was also doing it.?
One more time, using PED's to boost performance, to gain an edge, compete with clean players is what it's all about.
And it's not just in baseball.
For that matter you paint a picture of coke heads just about everywhere.
It's not about the past, fans and players know it's about PED use in recent years.
The article article covers every year from 1986-2007
The Evolution of Barry Bonds
Longest home run distances courtesy of Bill Jenkinson, baseball historian and author of The Year Babe Ruth Hit 104 Home Runs.
AGE (at start of season): 21
LISTED HT./WT.: 6' 1'', 185
BATTING AVERAGE: .223
ON-BASE PCT.: .330
SLUGGING PCT.: .416
HOME RUNS: 16
SB: 36 WALKS: 65
INTENTIONAL WALKS: 2
LONGEST HOMER: 425 ft.
THEY SAID IT
"In spring training I was in awe [of being around major league ballplayers]; then when I got [to Pittsburgh], I was more ready to play."
"If I had to, I would say he'll be a Hall of Famer."
BILL VIRDON, Pirates hitting coach
HOME RUN TALLY 16
HT./WT.: 6' 2'', 238
BATTING AVERAGE: .272
ON-BASE PCT.: .493
SLUGGING PCT.: .556
HOME RUNS: 21
SB: 5 WALKS: 113
INTENTIONAL WALKS: 34
LONGEST HOMER: 452 ft.
THEY SAID IT
"This is the hardest thing I've had to do in my entire career."
"No matter what anybody thinks of the controversy surrounding this event, Mr. Bonds's achievement is noteworthy and remarkable."
BUD SELIG, MLB commissioner
HOME RUN TALLY 755
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''A sport without black people ain't a sport. That's just a game!... That's like me saying, 'Ooh, I got the highest SAT score in the whole world, but no Asians took the test.' What kind of crap is that? 'I just won the marathon. No Kenyans could run, though!'''
If you showed a graph of all the historical tape measure hitters year by year, the true giants were smashing them from the get go. You don't suddenly start hitting 450-500 foot shots from age 35+. It's the most unnatural act in sports I can think of. Even a 35 year old running back breaking Dickerson's single season rushing mark would be more naturally likely.
I think it's totally unfair to imply I have a small bias towards Cobb. My bias towards Cobb is extremely significant! Was made huge by years of systematic abuse, sitting in front of a microfilm reader at the Palo Alto Library!
It's one thing to lose to Babe. But to Honus? A fellow dead-baller, who clearly lost on the numbers to Ty, but some want to give him the win with a hypothetical??? I don't think so!! You're off the reservation, Kemosabe. - Bill Burgess