View Poll Results: Let's Deal With Barry Bonds.

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  • I believe that Barry did not know he was using steroids, when his trainer gave him Clear/Cream.

    8 2.63%
  • I believe that Barry was aware he was using steroids, when given Clear/Cream.

    254 83.55%
  • I have now dropped Barry Bonds below my Top 10 Position Players.

    89 29.28%
  • I still have Barry Bonds in my Top 10 Position Players.

    125 41.12%
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Thread: Let's Deal With Barry Bonds.

  1. #3226
    Going from memory on this one, if I recall correctly there were about 13 seasons 40 or more home runs in the 1980's decade.... and 16 or 17 in one season(1996) in the 1990s decade.....................a decade compared to only one season in the next decade...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous View Post
    From 1997 to 2004 8 different players hit 50 or more homers. From 2005 to 2012 6 different players hit 50 or more homers.
    True, but thats pitting a bit of a spin on it imo. Your numbers can be looked at in this way as well. In the small PED window, 50+ was reached a whopping EIGHTEEN times. At the current rate (50+ frequency during the last 10 seasons) it will take THIRTY YEARS to equal the 18 achieved during rampant PED use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanTheMan View Post
    True, but thats pitting a bit of a spin on it imo. Your numbers can be looked at in this way as well. In the small PED window, 50+ was reached a whopping EIGHTEEN times. At the current rate (50+ frequency during the last 10 seasons) it will take THIRTY YEARS to equal the 18 achieved during rampant PED use.
    Sure was a crazy time when SS and 2Bmen were hitting 50+ and 40+ respectively. Who would have thought that those guys would be leading their team (if not the league) in HRs? I know Hornsby hit a ton for a while in the '20s, but that era has it's own thread discussing that insanity. I used to think Rico Petrocelli was really something for his 40 HR as a SS, but then A-Rod started hitting 50+ a year. Kinda drowns out what Vern Stephens, Rico, and Cal Ripken had done previously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanTheMan View Post
    True, but thats pitting a bit of a spin on it imo. Your numbers can be looked at in this way as well. In the small PED window, 50+ was reached a whopping EIGHTEEN times. At the current rate (50+ frequency during the last 10 seasons) it will take THIRTY YEARS to equal the 18 achieved during rampant PED use.
    What you say is not free of spin. 12 of those 18 50+ homer seasons were done by just 4 players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous View Post
    What you say is not free of spin. 12 of those 18 50+ homer seasons were done by just 4 players.
    I think both of you are making very good points about just how ridiculous that period was.
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    Ubi.... They were 4 juiced players, but in the spirit of good discussion and to try to indicate I do see other sides of the spectrum, I type as genuinely as possible --- "fair point."
    Last edited by StanTheMan; 05-16-2013 at 08:48 AM.
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