Why did you stop selling last year and not in 1957?Originally Posted by BMH
What forest or mill does Rawlings own? I know they are in Dogleville, NY but I do not think they open to the public.
MJD
Why did you stop selling last year and not in 1957?
What forest or mill does Rawlings own? I know they are in Dogleville, NY but I do not think they open to the public.
MJD
My friend told me that your top 7 profiles are in this order. He made a bet with me that this is the order....
c243
c271
M110
T141
P72
R161
S318
I'd love to prove him wrong... and let him know what the other 3 are for the top 10.
DEESH
hey bmh do you know what year a certain bat is by the color and the stamp?
i got a pro maple t141 from dicks but its like this queer color it looks like the m9 version of the m110 having the reddish handle and brown barrel. and the stamp is an oval. the last t141s i saw were red and black and those were sick my friend.
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It's hard to say. We call the finish the "Walker" finish after Jimmy "The Hat" Walker. Um with the CB being a foil brand it might be a year or two old. Then again Dicks always has us make up special runs so it might have been something along those lines. What does the end brand say?
BTW,
Our top six models:
C271
C243
M110
P72
T141
I13
Lummox in LF
R161?!?!?! How many ML players use a handle that thick anymore???
Sheffield is about the only one I see anymore who seems to use a thick handle, but it's pretty hard to judge on TV...
Lummox in LF
BMH, you've mentioned I13 several times, and I've never seen one.
Is that model sold in stores?
Could you describe it briefly?
I bought a bunch of C271s over the years before I realized that I really didn't like the handle flare. I should see if anybody wants to trade for something like M159s or S44s. I think that I've liked the feel of the T141s I've seen in stores lately, but not sure if I'm really remembering the right model.
Last edited by hellborn; 06-07-2006 at 06:53 AM.
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The I13 is basically a C243 with a C271 handle. Technically, it's a cut down H238, but I would then have to explain that one
Hellborn, do you have your pm's turned on?
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BMH what about the lousiviolle wood composites? ANY GOOD?
whats more popular the 141 or the 110?
where can i see the difference in shape?
Lummox in LF
Hey BMH, I just hadn't been checking my pm's for a while, sorry.
I just replied to you, and thanks again!
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The T141 is a cut down M110. It has a slimmer handle and smaller barrel.
Lummox in LF
Sounds like I would really like this one...M110 always felt just a wee bit thick to me.
Am I correct that this has only been a store bat model for the last few years? Don't recall seeing them until recently, but I do think that the ones I have seen felt like nice bats for my tastes.
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BMH,
I just got two 1xx MLB Timber M9's off ebay. One of them looks great with nice straight grains. The other bat's grain curves and does not look like it could possibly be classified as MLB wood. I know with ash the less grain marks the better and also the straighter the grain the better. I was under the impression that the number of grain marks with maple is less important but I thought that the straightness of the grani was still important. Am I mistaken. Could this spiraled grain be MLB wood. I also play in a fairly competitve wood bat only league and would be interested in getting 1XX wood direct from louisville. I saw earlier that one must have an ID signifying that you are a professional player. Is there any reliable place to get 1XX mlb timber without needing to find it on ebay?
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Does it curve in the handle, barrel or both? Usual practice is if it's straight 15-20in. up the handle it's good to use. Without seeing the bat, I can't comment on it though.
We have the M9 series available in the catalog so you should be able to get it without a problem in most retail stores.
As I said before, with our maple the only difference between the storeline and the pro bats is where in the factory it's made. We get the wood from the same place.
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It starts at the louisville logo and goes to the end of the barrel. I find it hard to believe that I can get the same quality wood at a retail store the the professional players get. I realize that they are the same models and are made using the same technique but would be shocked if the quality of wood was the same. It it were the same I would have no problem finding an ash bat with 6-10 grains but the fact is I have never been able to purchase one.
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Ah, are you looking for ash or maple?
I only said the wood was the same for the maple.
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I would prefer ash, but do not feel that I can get the quality that I need so I stick with maple. I do like maple, but it doesn't match the pop of a nice piece of ash.
762*
Hi I am new here but I have been reading the threads on this forum as of late (this one in particular) and I wanted to ask BMH a couple of quick questions concerning the bats of Babe Ruth.
The first picture is of the famous bat Ruth used to hit the first home run out of Yankee Stadium in '23, the second is one Ruth ordered later in his career and is what the replica bats most resemble (typical R43 model).
So what is the difference between the two? Is the typical R43 model one that Ruth ordered the most and the first bat pictured just a one off model he ordered or is it the other way around? Forgive me if I seem to be asking too much but I am doing research for a project.
Thanks for your time.
Richard Lillard
Last edited by RichardLillard1; 06-23-2006 at 02:15 AM.
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Ruth actually used several different models in his career. Like you said it could be a one off model or that bat could be the one that evolved into the R43. Hand turning is also very personal, we employed many hand turners to crank out the needed bats, one turner's version of the bat could be a lot different than someone elses.
Take the B363, made for Jeff Bagwell. It has an oversized flare knob on it with a ridge, looks like a giant C271 knob. Well, after his hand injury he had us take the ridge off the knob. Now it looks like an oversized cone knob. He also still wants it called the B363. So...we changed the model for him. We could have done the same thing for Ruth.
I hope this helps.
Last edited by BMH; 03-24-2008 at 06:51 PM.
swingbuster
Brian ,
As I understand , Louisville Slugger, is owned by Hillerich & Bradsby. I think the company has been in existence for almost 150 years.
What is your relation to the company founders?
You seem to have an unbelievable knowledge and interest in the wooden bats, their history, and their specks for all the great baseball players.
Interesting stuff and great detail in the making if the top bats.
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Is that the same Norton that makes sandpaper and grinding wheels?
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Of what relation are you to the original company owners? Just curious. Not going to get my feelings hurt if you do not supply an answer. I will say thanks to all you contribute on this board. LS is an American Icon.
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Thank you for the kind words. This might sound wierd, but I am fascinated by every aspect of wood bats. I live and breathe making them.
We've been making bats for 122yrs. My great, great grandfather had a woodshop that my great grandfather made the first bat from. If you include the woodshop it would be around 150yrs. I believe we didn't start calling it the Louisville Slugger until 1892-95.
You are correct, Louisville Slugger, Powerbilt golf, TPS Hockey, and Bionic are all owned by Hillerich & Bradsby. Before anyone asks, the last Bradsby to work for us died in 1938 i believe.
It's amazed me all the different bats that we've made. We have over 4000 different models and the list keeps growing. Though I've noticed a lot of them are so close there isn't really any sense in calling them different.
Brian
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I honestly don't know if they are related or not. I'll ask the next time I talk to Mr. Norton.
swingbuster
BMH you have a PM
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I don't know about the differences, speaking of Baseball Express, but I'm sure that information is on the site itself. You know, the catalogs, unfortunately, only have so much room to describe everything....and at that, the catalog doesn't even list everything they have available. But they do have more information on the site itself about everything. The only thing I can suggest is to go there and look around, click on any relative items. Just be prepared to spend a while there. I've been banned from going there by my husband. LOL I spend WAY too much there....good thing I just became an official member (can't wait to get the email...if I do...to try some products!! -- you fill out a survey that comes with the product, send it in, and get to keep the product for free if you're picked to try a new product they carry). I think one more trip over there and I'll need another bat caddy (though I get those from www.wolverinesports.com - much cheaper).
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