Originally posted by Bravesfan1984
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Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.
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Originally posted by Bravesfan1984 View PostIf I was a troll I would have been gone a long time agol
I come here mostly to learn--sure, sometimes to show off a bit, but mostly to learn. And I'm grateful for all my fellow posters have taught me--especially about statistics and the early history of baseball. I know I'm not alone in this; similar comments are common on this board.
As a college teacher, I'm baffled by students who refuse to learn. "I'm going to come to class and hand in assignments, but I'm not going to pay attention or put in any effort, and you can't make me." I understand the attitude, but not the inability to recognize their own self-interest.
There really is a body of knowledge of player evaluation--some of it in dispute, much of it incomplete--but growing rapidly, and by no means just opinion. A lot of smart people have worked a long time to develop it, and this forum is an excellent source of that new knowledge: It's often presented in forms understandable to new people, with resources for further learning.
I think if the level of conflict here were ramped down a bit, it would be easier for you to take part in this collective effort and for you--and us--to profit more by your time and efforts here.
Here's my take on why attacks on ideas are OK here but personal attacks are not: It's not a question of hurt feelings. I can assure you that a lengthy, enthusiastic, and accurate attack on one's pet theory hurts much more than being called a troll or a buffoon. But calling someone names does not move the discussion forward, does not contribute to knowledge. An accurate attack on erroneous ideas does bring us closer to a better understanding, so the only thing to do is gulp and take it. And continue to contribute.
Many posters here have shown a remarkable willingness to engage your ideas before losing patience with your evasions of theirs. I'm sure their attitude towards you would change if you, in turn, took what they wrote as seriously as they took what you wrote.
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Originally posted by Bravesfan1984 View PostI may be wrong sometimes but please I am right more then 90 percent of the time.Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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Originally posted by Bravesfan1984 View PostIf I was a troll I would have been gone a long time agolLou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!
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Originally posted by Bravesfan1984 View PostI have changed my view about this so yes if he gets to 300 he deserves to be there 100 percent.Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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Originally posted by Mike90 View Post299 wins and no Cy Young?! It's called the Hall of Fame (HOF) not the Hall of Pitchers Who Have Neither Won 300 games nor a Cy Young (HOPWHNW300GNACY)! 300 wins would be different of course.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis
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Originally posted by Mike90 View PostIf he's a gamer, then he's IN.Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
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