Englishbey's videos

[WonderMonkey]

Steve has two products, Basic and Advanced. Is the "Basic" one necessary or can someone move right to the "Advanced" series? I'm no hitting genius but I understand the basics of Rotational, etc. I just don't want to purchase the basic one if it is more geared for someone who is just wanting to their toes wet.

[PullFactor]

I've asked the same question.
Ideally, since all I've heard of before the site was the advanced version, I think it is possible and plausible to teach and learn with the advanced set, even with no prior knowledge of PCR.
What's contained on the second advanced dvd, though?

[jimmiemac]

I would think you could easily skip them both.

[Hawaii]

[QUOTE=WonderMonkey]Steve has two products, Basic and Advanced. Is the "Basic" one necessary or can someone move right to the "Advanced" series? Sorry--I clicked wrong button--see full answer below. My bad.

[Hawaii]

[QUOTE=WonderMonkey]Steve has two products, Basic and Advanced. Is the "Basic" one necessary or can someone move right to the "Advanced" series?

I vote get both. The basic DVD is not a basic "rotational" discussion. The basic one is the building blocks of what Steve is teaching: posture, tilt, connection, and rotation. So, don't skip the basic just because you understand a rotational swing--this DVD is more than that. The basic one also has the camera closer, so you can see and hear better what's going on.

Also, if you plan to work with a younger player, he or she can actually watch the basic DVD. That helps--if they can see it, they can learn it better. Whereas no youngster I know could sit through the advanced one--it's too advanced.

[Boiler]

Where can I get either of these 2 videos.

[Jake Patterson]

Where can I get either of these 2 videos.

Google it!

[cartersball]

Google it!

ROFL!! Jake is serious about the advertising thing people. If you can't google it pm me I will give you the link in private.

[WonderMonkey]

There are two seperate DVD's in the advanced series. I want to be sure when people are saying basic they are not just referring to the first in the advanced series.

[cartersball]

They are not. I have seen parts of all three dvd's, and have a copy of the basic on the way. I agree with Hawaii, it is better suited for a child than the advanced.

[WonderMonkey]

Sounds good, thanks.

[WonderMonkey]

ROFL!! Jake is serious about the advertising thing people. If you can't google it pm me I will give you the link in private.

I think it's ok to post the link if it's asked for, right?

[cartersball]

I'd say NOT. Jake responded in less than a minute, meaning he meant to give an answer B4 anyone else did.

[WonderMonkey]

I'd say NOT. Jake responded in less than a minute, meaning he meant to give an answer B4 anyone else did.

Or that he just *CARES* that much for prompt, curteous service?

[cartersball]

Nah, Jake is awesome. I think he just wants people to put forth thier honest opinons, without "selling" something. There is a difference between offering advice and pitching a product. Sometimes it is a fine line, but it is there.

[WonderMonkey]

Nah, Jake is awesome. I think he just wants people to put forth thier honest opinons, without "selling" something. There is a difference between offering advice and pitching a product. Sometimes it is a fine line, but it is there.

I was just kidding, actually. I see the slippery slope. It should be no problem that I provide a link to a product that I am checking out, but then you would see people on here "chatting" with the sole purpose of hawking a product.

[PullFactor]

Is all material covered in the basic DVD also covered in the advanced? What can I get out of the basic dvd that I can't get from the advanced? Since the basic was only just created (to my knowledge?), people must have sufficed without it.

[Jake Patterson]

I was just kidding, actually. I see the slippery slope. It should be no problem that I provide a link to a product that I am checking out, but then you would see people on here "chatting" with the sole purpose of hawking a product.

We're trying to clean this up. And yes there is a fine line between the two as we, as coaches, should be able to back our opinions with appropriate references. We also frequently discuss different techniques, theories, styles, and age appropriate methods. I think this is healthy and provides a learning environment for us all.

For the purposes of BBF we should concentrate on referencing and eliminate selling.

[4for4]

We're trying to clean this up. And yes there is a fine line between the two as we, as coaches, should be able to back our opinions with appropriate references. We also frequently discuss different techniques, theories, styles, and age appropriate methods. I think this is healthy and provides a learning environment for us all.

For the purposes of BBF we should concentrate on referencing and eliminate selling.

I'm not selling anything, but I did buy both and they are very good. I also purchased Epstein and Mankin. I didn't find those to be anywhere near the value as I found the Englishbey DVDs.

View Englishbey, learn from it and it will help advance the discussion on swing mechanics wherever it's talked about.

[Mattingly]

No advertising of products, folks. That includes instructional DVDs w/o the Webmaster's approval. Please contact "webmaster" for approval.

[zippy]

you people have no history of these posters.
ive been lurking for five years.
the few that dig deep into the pcr principles that post here probably have posted over 1500 messages.
imo they bring a lot of value to the "Baseball 101, Coaching & Fundamentals" message board... but i guess you cant/wont see it.
if there are readers who really want to learn about how to efficiently hit the ball... they need to read... study and read some more of what these guys are saying.
it takes time and just when you think youve got it... you realize youre not as close as you thought.
you need to stay with it.
if you want to keep hitting simple...YOU need to learn how to deliver the message in simple terms because hitting is NOT simple... so dont expect to LEARN it the simple way.
many times i have scratched my head at some of the things they say/show... only to find that months later i come to understand it.
i am in no way as trained an eye as these guys... but by studying it whole heartedly i have come to the point i think in the same lines... i.e., many times had my kids do a certain thing when swing training come to find out it is what they teach. in sync.

these guys say buy the dvd only when...
someone keeps asking questions and their all typed out OR
they feel the obligation to pass along solid info because they care.

bye

[swingbuster]

Zippy...new name ...surfing for 5 years and you have only 5 post on BF...

hummmm? Interesting. And all your post are pro-posse . What is wrong with you old name?

[WonderMonkey]

you people have no history of these posters.
ive been lurking for five years.
the few that dig deep into the pcr principles that post here probably have posted over 1500 messages.
imo they bring a lot of value to the "Baseball 101, Coaching & Fundamentals" message board... but i guess you cant/wont see it.
if there are readers who really want to learn about how to efficiently hit the ball... they need to read... study and read some more of what these guys are saying.
it takes time and just when you think youve got it... you realize youre not as close as you thought.
you need to stay with it.
if you want to keep hitting simple...YOU need to learn how to deliver the message in simple terms because hitting is NOT simple... so dont expect to LEARN it the simple way.
many times i have scratched my head at some of the things they say/show... only to find that months later i come to understand it.
i am in no way as trained an eye as these guys... but by studying it whole heartedly i have come to the point i think in the same lines... i.e., many times had my kids do a certain thing when swing training come to find out it is what they teach. in sync.

these guys say buy the dvd only when...
someone keeps asking questions and their all typed out OR
they feel the obligation to pass along solid info because they care.

bye

I agree. I instruct hitting (and a few other things) now and my students have done well. However, after coming here and to a few other sites I have upped my knowledge and ability to convey that knowledge. Also I have been able to dismiss a few things I thought I knew and pick up some new information that makes sense to me. I continue to try and wade through the arguing and pick out some information that either supports my views, or tears them down.

So far this site has been very useful to me.

[WonderMonkey]

I just ordered the basic DVD. When I get it I will view it a few times then put a review of it on my site for anybody that is interested.

[Jake Patterson]

I'm not selling anything, but I did buy both and they are very good.

Guys, I pulled down the direct "buy" link. Just so we are all on the same page. Direct links for the sole purpose of selling without the permission of the Web adminsitrators is not permitted.

4for4, I sent you a PM.