Wow

[aramis4president]

What do u know, dempster blows yet ANOTHER game. i dont know why dusty keeps putting him out there, he cant control his pitches unless its 80 mph down the middle, thats when they actually hit it. he is just awful, i cannot put it any other way, and yes i know that the DP SHOULD have been turned but there is good old' ronny screwin things up again. this game wanted to make me vomit. you know u suck when the PIRATES beat u, the PIRATES.

[rockin500]

yep. once ronny screwed up it was all she wrote. Dempster did his job, too bad the defense cant do theirs.

[aramis4president]

i dont know if he did his job, his job is to go through the 11th w/ no runs scoring, even w/ out the error he was in deep dog doo

[KCGHOST]

Take a look at the Cubs pitching staff and tell me who the closer should be?? Not a great group of choices there. And to blithely ignore Ramirez's critical error on a routine grounder isn't exactly being evenhanded.

[rockin500]

Take a look at the Cubs pitching staff and tell me who the closer should be?? Not a great group of choices there. And to blithely ignore Ramirez's critical error on a routine grounder isn't exactly being evenhanded.

error in the 11th? is that the one where it bounced up and over him and he thought it was foul? (and the runner should have been at 2nd instead of 1st if he had continued running?)

[aramis4president]

Take a look at the Cubs pitching staff and tell me who the closer should be?? Not a great group of choices there. And to blithely ignore Ramirez's critical error on a routine grounder isn't exactly being evenhanded.

ummm ya u didnt make any sense, that was not an error on ramirez, it was quite a difficult play as well. i would like to see you make that play, o and for the cedeno play, i guarantee i could have made a better throw than that

[aramis4president]

o and look cedeno makes another awful play in the 2nd inning of todays game. way to go ronny

[Lipsander]

Yeah, I'm not too sure about ol' Ronny. I do like Theriot though. I think Dempster shouldn't be closing for us next year, but that's my opinion.

[Bob Sacamento]

I think Dempster shouldn't be closing for us next year, but that's my opinion.

So you'd rather pay him 5 million to setup for us next year? Because it's going to be very tough to deal him this offseason. I wonder how he feels about starting again....

[aramis4president]

is this really happening, i thought dusty was stupid, but not this stupid. dempster blew it AGAIN today, i just sent my bomb in the mail to dusty's home so we wont have to worry about this anymore. o and i dont want 2 pay him 5 mil to set up either, i would rather pay him 5 mil to be the towel boy b/c i dont want him any where near a pitching mound. hes just god awful, well he is canadien, poor guy.

[rockin500]

is this really happening, i thought dusty was stupid, but not this stupid. dempster blew it AGAIN today, i just sent my bomb in the mail to dusty's home so we wont have to worry about this anymore. o and i dont want 2 pay him 5 mil to set up either, i would rather pay him 5 mil to be the towel boy b/c i dont want him any where near a pitching mound. hes just god awful, well he is canadien, poor guy.

who was he going to use?

[Cubsfan97]

Ill pay him 10 million to sit on the bench. Today has changed me and I now believe that Baker needs to go. He should have had enough sense to put someone other than Dempster in there. Hes had 1 bad streak earlier this year and that could have been a fluke but now another one. He 1-7 for crying out loud.

[rockin500]

Ill pay him 10 million to sit on the bench. Today has changed me and I now believe that Baker needs to go. He should have had enough sense to put someone other than Dempster in there. Hes had 1 bad streak earlier this year and that could have been a fluke but now another one. He 1-7 for crying out loud.

again, who would you throw out there that could have done the job in the 11th?

[RBi]

ummm ya u didnt make any sense, that was not an error on ramirez, it was quite a difficult play as well. i would like to see you make that play, o and for the cedeno play, i guarantee i could have made a better throw than that

I would like to see you try to close out the ninth inning someday... let me know when it happens, I will bring the camera...

[Lipsander]

So you'd rather pay him 5 million to setup for us next year? Because it's going to be very tough to deal him this offseason. I wonder how he feels about starting again....

Exactly, we need a starter bad, but how effective would he be now days? Then we would have to go get another stopper and those aren't exactly a dime a dozen, so who knows.

[Bob Sacamento]

Exactly, we need a starter bad, but how effective would he be now days? Then we would have to go get another stopper and those aren't exactly a dime a dozen, so who knows.

Relievers are a dime a dozen, and very often a dominant one with low peripherals can hack it as a closer. At least as well as Dempster, and other midlevel closers. Personally, I think Wuertz can do it maybe not immediately but in the not so distant future. In Mikey's second go around this season after his callup in late July, he's appeared in 22 games, going 23.1 IP, giving up 18 hits, 4 er, 1 hr, 8 bb, 26 k, 1.54 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, .207 BAA

As for veterans we have, Howry could easily slide right in and take the job from Dempster for the rest of the 2006 season and all of the 2007 season. Only problem would be finding the guy who could eat all of Howry's innings if he made the shift.

[halloffamefan]

Kerry Wood for closer.

Trade Dempster to the Tigers, they're going to need a closer. So will the Indians, Reds, and Dodgers for that matter. Dempster is movable, especially if we absord some of his contract.

[The Big C]

I kinda think Joel Zumaya will be closing for the Tigers before too long.

[EvanAparra]

Relievers are a dime a dozen, and very often a dominant one with low peripherals can hack it as a closer. At least as well as Dempster, and other midlevel closers. Personally, I think Wuertz can do it maybe not immediately but in the not so distant future. In Mikey's second go around this season after his callup in late July, he's appeared in 22 games, going 23.1 IP, giving up 18 hits, 4 er, 1 hr, 8 bb, 26 k, 1.54 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, .207 BAA

As for veterans we have, Howry could easily slide right in and take the job from Dempster for the rest of the 2006 season and all of the 2007 season. Only problem would be finding the guy who could eat all of Howry's innings if he made the shift.

Relievers are a dime a dozen?? Did you not see the trades and rumors going on at the deadline this year? Everyone needed relief pitching, it was in shortage. Wayne Krivsky had to give up 2 good starters and a minor leaguer for a couple of bullpen arms.

[Lipsander]

Kerry Wood for closer.

Trade Dempster to the Tigers, they're going to need a closer. So will the Indians, Reds, and Dodgers for that matter. Dempster is movable, especially if we absord some of his contract.

I'm with you on this one. It would take alot of work off of his shoulder and allow him to be dominant for 1 inning at a time.

[Bob Sacamento]

I'm with you on this one. It would take alot of work off of his shoulder and allow him to be dominant for 1 inning at a time.

If ya missed it, Wood plans on throwing out of the pen for next year and tentatively for 2008...

[Larkinlives4ever]

Kerry Wood for closer.

Trade Dempster to the Tigers, they're going to need a closer. So will the Indians, Reds, and Dodgers for that matter. Dempster is movable, especially if we absord some of his contract.

Reds have already had a go around with Dumpster, but then again, is his ERA below 19?