Power, Speed, Hit for average! Which players best encompass(ed) all 3 skills

[MyDogSparty]

If you prioritized the 3 skills in the following order, Power, Speed and finally hitting for Average, which players, past or present, best encompassed all 3 skills? I'm thinking of guys like:

Barry Bonds
Willie Mays
Mickey Mantle
Alex Rodriguez
Joe Morgan
Frank Robinson
Rickey Henderson

Who else belongs on this list?

[EdmondsFan#1]

Derek Jeter
Johny Damon
Chase Utley

[Jose Reyes]

My usernamesake, Jose Reyes.

[EvanAparra]

Derek Jeter
Johny Damon
Chase Utley

Johnny Damon and Jeter?? Power?

[EdmondsFan#1]

Johnny Damon and Jeter?? Power?

Yeah, damon doesn't have much power but when he said power i didn't think he meant Barry Bonds power i thought he meant like... Double power...

[cbenson5]

Ty Cobb
Honus Wagner

[MyDogSparty]

I'd have to say that Damon does not qualify as a power hitter and neither does Jeter since close to 75% of his hits are singles.

[hubkittel]

andre dawson
hank aaron
paul molitor
craig biggio
eric davis
dave winfield
bobby bonds
don baylor
steve finley

for some of these guys, hitting for avg would be the weakest part of their game but you have to love the power/speed combo (and they could all hit for avg to some degree even if they all weren't going to win a batting title).

[RuthMayBond]

Anson
Collins
Brett
Wagner
Cobb
Aaron

[cbenson5]

I'd have to say that Damon does not qualify as a power hitter and neither does Jeter since close to 75% of his hits are singles.

Damon's career slugging percentage is .436 so you are right there is no way he qualifies as a power hitter. I'm not even sure that he qualifies for the average portion with a .290 career batting average.

[MyDogSparty]

Alright, I used Lahman's database to search on the following criteria...

>=1000 games played
>=30.0% of the player's hits were for extra bases
>=.450 SLG avg
>=150 career SB
>=67% success rate on SBs
>=.270 batting average

...and this is what I got in return

Bonds, Barry
Rodriguez, Alex
Walker, Larry
Griffey, Ken
Mays, Willie
Mantle, Mickey
Aaron, Hank
Bagwell, Jeff
Robinson, Frank
Sosa, Sammy
Sheffield, Gary
Brouthers, Dan
Abreu, Bobby
Burks, Ellis
Delahanty, Ed
Thompson, Sam
Speaker, Tris
Bichette, Dante
Brett, George
Connor, Roger
Mondesi, Raul
Dawson, Andre
Gehringer, Charlie
Beltran, Carlos
Lankford, Ray
Winfield, Dave
Robinson, Jackie
Stovey, Harry
Ewing, Buck
Sandberg, Ryne

Any surprises or glaring omissions?

[EvanAparra]

Alright, I used Lahman's database to search on the following criteria...

>=1000 games played
>=30.0% of the player's hits were for extra bases
>=.450 SLG avg
>=150 career SB
>=67% success rate on SBs
>=.270 batting average

...and this is what I got in return

Bonds, Barry
Rodriguez, Alex
Walker, Larry
Griffey, Ken
Mays, Willie
Mantle, Mickey
Aaron, Hank
Bagwell, Jeff
Robinson, Frank
Sosa, Sammy
Sheffield, Gary
Brouthers, Dan
Abreu, Bobby
Burks, Ellis
Delahanty, Ed
Thompson, Sam
Speaker, Tris
Bichette, Dante
Brett, George
Connor, Roger
Mondesi, Raul
Dawson, Andre
Gehringer, Charlie
Beltran, Carlos
Lankford, Ray
Winfield, Dave
Robinson, Jackie
Stovey, Harry
Ewing, Buck
Sandberg, Ryne

Any surprises or glaring omissions?

Sandberg is a surpise to me.

I think you set the bar a little too low for Slugging and Average.

[hubkittel]

Lankford, Ray

big props for my boy rayray

[MyDogSparty]

Others I've been thinking about but didn't make the list include:

Eric Davis
Kirk Gibson
Jose Canseco
Alfonso Soriano
Bobby Bonds

[Astro]

I'd take a .270 average with a .380 OBP over a .300 average and a .350 OBP anyday

[Erik Bedard]

I'd take a .270 average with a .380 OBP over a .300 average and a .350 OBP anyday

I agree with you, but that's not the point of this thread.

Soriano, if he could hit for average a little better, would make it. Probably.

Also, one guy who easily had the talent, best hitter for both power and average and best speed of his day:

BILL LANGE

[RuthMayBond]

Alright, I used Lahman's database to search on the following criteria...

>=1000 games played
>=30.0% of the player's hits were for extra bases
>=.450 SLG avg
>=150 career SB
>=67% success rate on SBs
>=.270 batting average

...and this is what I got in return

Burks, Ellis
Bichette, Dante
Mondesi, Raul
Lankford, Ray

Any surprises or glaring omissions?

My surprises are above. I can give some more apparent omissions.
Lajoie
Schmidt (If we can give allowances for being a 3B, and substituting OBP for BA)
AVaughan
JJackson

[Erik Bedard]

Bichette? What? The rest work for me, but Bichette doesn't.

[YankeeDJW]

I think most of the players I thought of were alreadly mentioned numerous times. I don't know if I saw Vladimir Guerrero listed, but I would say he has all three.

[yankillaz]

For this, let's take the best players in the Power/Speed Number list of all-time, and check which of them are .300 hitters:

1. Barry Bonds (Although he's going to finish as a .290 hitter, but he makes my list)
2. Willie Mays
3. Hank Aaron
4. Paul Molitor
5. Alex Rodriguez

Those are the only ones that hit over .300 and are among the top 20 in Power/Speed.

Now let's see active player that might join both A-Rod and Bonds:

1. Gary Sheffield
2. Jeff Bagwell (Both hit .297)
3. Bobby Abreu
4. Vlad Guerrero

And that's it. Now, let's see which players led in this stat, plus leading in BA (Since 1919):

1. George Sisler, 1920
2. Roger Hornsby, 1922
3. Goose Goslin, 1928
4. Chuck Klein, 1933
5. Snuffy Stirnweiss, 1945 (WWII)
6. Jackie Robinson, 1949
7. Mickey Mantle, 1956

Larry Walker got close in 1997, but finished second to Gwynn in BA.