Yankee Stadium [II] Construction

[RichardLillard1]

I agree, I could sort of live with the new place if it wasn't such a rip off. Of course it also upsets me a great deal that they swept right in under the radar and never gave it a public hearing. They never even found out what the fans and locals had to say about it.

[Richmond Hill Phoenix]

I could live with the new stadium with the following modifications: 1) Extend the lower part of the upper deck by 15 rows so some upper seats are closer to the field and it will create an overhang. An upper deck home run is a great thing to see and with the current design, it will be a thing of the past. I'm certain it will pay off in gate receipts as well as moving to a closer feel to the original stadium.

I don't think the gate reciepts are going to differ no matter what you do. They are going to sell out every game for a long time in that stadium, IMO.

[RichardLillard1]

Oh I don't doubt they will sell out but I bet if you ask a lot of Yankee fans they will say that something won't feel right.

[TJH1923]

I don't think the gate reciepts are going to differ no matter what you do. They are going to sell out every game for a long time in that stadium, IMO.

I was referring to a higher seating capacity by adding 15 rows around the bowl. I do agree that they will sell out most of the time for years to come.

[Richmond Hill Phoenix]

I was referring to a higher seating capacity by adding 15 rows around the bowl. I do agree that they will sell out most of the time for years to come.

That's true. I thought you meant just push it forward...

In case anyone was wondering about the diagram in post # 77. Assuming it's to scale, Old Yankee stadium's upper deck was 41 pixels high off the field, and 36 pixels far away from the field. The new stadium's upper deck is 44 pixels high away, and 77 pixels away from the field. Twice as far from the field.

[Elvis]

The new stadium's upper deck is 44 pixels high away, and 77 pixels away from the field. Twice as far from the field.

That's progress for ya. Thank God for HOK and their "Innovations in ballpark design." (Their actual slogan)

[RichardLillard1]

Well innovative can mean so many things... like finding new ways to crap on the working class people who sit in the upper deck.

[JordanDL3891]

Although I've heard rumors that the new field is to be named Steinbrenner Stadium... I personally wouldn't mind that.

I think the new ballpark would be called "The House that Steinbrenner built" or "The House that Greed Built"

[jrh31584]

I took the comparison between the stadia and flipped things around a bit:

[JordanDL3891]

are you 100% sure this is going to be the case? why would they move you away from the field and make noseblead seats. isn't this the HOK that desgined PNC?


the way the seating is can still change right? they are still just doing the fundation.

[winningtheweapon]

HOK is pathetic. They are incapable of creating any different seating templates than the generic one they have been installing for years. It's ridiculous. It's as if Yankee fans are being forced to experience a taste of what the "cookie cutter-like" feeling is all about...

Yankee Stadium is already a cookie-cutter stadium. I went there this past season to watch the Red Sox play, and besides its history the current Stadium is unimpressive to me. Maybe this new one will be somewhat unique.

[RichardLillard1]

Yankee Stadium is already a cookie-cutter stadium. I went there this past season to watch the Red Sox play, and besides its history the current Stadium is unimpressive to me. Maybe this new one will be somewhat unique.

I don't want to start a fight on here but I am curious as to how you see the current Yankee Stadium as a cookie cutter?

[Knick9]

Yankee Stadium is already a cookie-cutter stadium. I went there this past season to watch the Red Sox play, and besides its history the current Stadium is unimpressive to me. Maybe this new one will be somewhat unique.

To put it in the kindest way that I can...your case has no leverage at all. Even so when Yankee Stadium was renovated in the 1970's, I don't think that it was ever a cookie cutter.

[bigtime39]

New Yankee $tadium will only be complete when they have the Jeffrey Mayer/Hamburger Helper giant glove overhanging the field from the right field bleachers. Balls hit into it by the home team are dingers...balls hit into it by the road team are outs!

[TJH1923]

To put it in the kindest way that I can...your case has no leverage at all. Even so when Yankee Stadium was renovated in the 1970's, I don't think that it was ever a cookie cutter.

I don't think I would call it a cookie cutter, but the idea was to modernize and streamline the stadium. In some ways, it did have that cookie cutter look to it. Just the roof with the lighting is the first thing that comes to mind. When the Stadium re-opened, and you can look at the pictures, it had minimal advertising, no left field bleachers and no out of town scoreboard. In my opinion, it did have a generic look to it. Remember, I am comparing it to the original Yankee Stadium. To me, they are two different ballparks, old and new.

When the plans were drawn up for the renovation in the early 70's, many teams were moving out of the old ball parks for more modern (cookie cutter) stadiums. Just to name a few: Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. Ballparks like Shea, Busch and RFK were only a few years old. Also, there was no movement yet for the "classic" look until Camden Yards came along. All of those stadiums mentioned above have been knocked down or are on the way to being knocked down.

[winningtheweapon]

I don't want to start a fight on here but I am curious as to how you see the current Yankee Stadium as a cookie cutter?

There's nothing that stands out. I can go to a ballpark like Fenway and see the green monster, see the brick wall facade, walk on Yawkey way. Or Wrigley with the busch wall. Hell even the Rogers Centre has that hotel, but I'm not implying that Rogers Centre > Yankee Stadium because Yankee Stadium is definately much more mystique than Rogers Centre, plus Yankee Stadium doesn't have a stupid retractable roof. But anyways, my point is I go to the New York stadiums, which I have been to both and all I see is either an orange or a blue bowl. Yes, the mystique of Yankee Stadium makes it what it is, but aren't we overrating the overall uniqueness of the place because of that? I just think so judging by seeing it in person, watching a ballgame. To be honest, even as a Red Sox fan, I was rather disappointed about it. I just hope the new one isn't a cookie cutter either.

[winningtheweapon]

To put it in the kindest way that I can...your case has no leverage at all. Even so when Yankee Stadium was renovated in the 1970's, I don't think that it was ever a cookie cutter.

Prove your statement and just because the majority of the public thinks Yankee Stadium isn't a cookie cutter stadium doesn't mean that it's true. You shouldn't appeal to popularity when you prove your case is all I'm saying.

[Elvis]

Prove your statement and just because the majority of the public thinks Yankee Stadium isn't a cookie cutter stadium doesn't mean that it's true. You shouldn't appeal to popularity when you prove your case is all I'm saying.

The term cookie-cutter was given to the multi-purpose stadium of the 60s and 70s because of their identical circular shape and very similar exterior and interior designs. Yankee Stadium's shape, layout and tri-deck design were revolutionary when constructed, and its overhead profile is among the most unique and recognizable of any stadium in the world. The fact is that it was and is the very antithesis of the term cookie-cutter.

To call Yankee Stadium a cookie-cutter is like calling Rosie O'Donnell anorexic, or calling the Tampa Bay Devil Rays the most successful franchise in pro-sports history - it makes absolutely no sense.

[cadam]

I'm looking forward to the new stadium. The "historic" part of Yankee stadium was gutted in the remodelling. The new one will be closer to historic yankee stadium then what is used now. Happy to see the roof w/ the facade back. Wish they had the upper deck closer to the playing field (i.e., cantilevered) but all things considered, this is a good move. Plus, some elbow room when you go get a hot dog will be a welcome change.

[cadam]

The term cookie-cutter was given to the multi-purpose stadium of the 60s and 70s because of their identical circular shape and very similar exterior and interior designs. Yankee Stadium's shape, layout and tri-deck design were revolutionary when constructed, and its overhead profile is among the most unique and recognizable of any stadium in the world. The fact is that it was and is the very antithesis of the term cookie-cutter.

To call Yankee Stadium a cookie-cutter is like calling Rosie O'Donnell anorexic, or calling the Tampa Bay Devil Rays the most successful franchise in pro-sports history - it makes absolutely no sense.

They took a non-cookie cutter layout and tried their hardest ot make it into one.

[cadam]

I have posted this before, but I'll do it again to show my ideal Yankee Stadium. First of all I would love to keep the original stadium.

However if I had to design a new one I would use the same idea as my ideal renovation for the Stadium.

It would have the same shape as far as the grandstands(you would see no difference between how far close the upper deck is in the new and old). But I would add things like this new Great Hall and the Grand Staircase outside.

There would also be a roof now supported by columns much like US Cellular and with some posts going all the way through to the lower bowl.

I would also bring back Death Valley.

By and alrge I like this idea, but why would you want columns obstructing views in the upper deck. The columns are a necessary evil, but if you can avoid them, why wouldn't you?

[winningtheweapon]

The term cookie-cutter was given to the multi-purpose stadium of the 60s and 70s because of their identical circular shape and very similar exterior and interior designs. Yankee Stadium's shape, layout and tri-deck design were revolutionary when constructed, and its overhead profile is among the most unique and recognizable of any stadium in the world. The fact is that it was and is the very antithesis of the term cookie-cutter.

To call Yankee Stadium a cookie-cutter is like calling Rosie O'Donnell anorexic, or calling the Tampa Bay Devil Rays the most successful franchise in pro-sports history - it makes absolutely no sense.

Yeah, people recognize it because it says "YANKEE STADIUM" on the outside. Give me one thing that makes Yankee Stadium unique in its own right? It looks like an ordinary blue bowl to me. Again, as I've stated before I do think people use the stadium's history as a way to overrate the overall uniqueness of the actual stadium design itself.

[winningtheweapon]

I'm looking forward to the new stadium. The "historic" part of Yankee stadium was gutted in the remodelling. The new one will be closer to historic yankee stadium then what is used now. Happy to see the roof w/ the facade back. Wish they had the upper deck closer to the playing field (i.e., cantilevered) but all things considered, this is a good move. Plus, some elbow room when you go get a hot dog will be a welcome change.

Bringing back "death valley" would be an improvement.

[Elvis]

Yeah, people recognize it because it says "YANKEE STADIUM" on the outside. Give me one thing that makes Yankee Stadium unique in its own right? It looks like an ordinary blue bowl to me.

I already explained it. No other stadium in the world, past or present has the shape, layout, profile and design of Yankee Stadium. What part of that don't you get? The term "cookie-cutter" refers to the generic shape/layout of a stadium. If a stadium is unique, as Yankee Stadium is, than it is the antithesis of generic. What other stadium's profile looks like this?

[winningtheweapon]

I already explained it. No other stadium in the world, past or present has the shape, layout, profile and design of Yankee Stadium. What part of that don't you get? The term "cookie-cutter" refers to the generic shape/layout of a stadium. If a stadium is unique, as Yankee Stadium is, than it is the antithesis of generic. What other stadium's profile looks like this?

U.S. Cellular Field has a few characteristics it's sharing with Yankee Stadium.



Shea Stadium, not as much, but it does remind me of the blue bowl layout of Yankee Stadium with its orange bowl design.