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Thread: Hank Aaron: Milwaukee or Atlanta?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie31
    Hank Aaron should be thought of as a Brave. Everyone thinks of Babe Ruth as a Yankee-not a Boston Brave.

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    Perhaps a good comparison would be Frank Robinson - though the Reds and Orioles didn't make a franchise move anytime during Frank's career. I think more people associate Frank with the Baltimore Orioles, though many of know good and well he had ten solid seasons as a Cincinnati Red before coming to Baltimore and playing six seasons - Frank also managed the Orioles for 3 1/2 seasons. Frank won the MVP with both clubs (1961 Reds, 1966 Orioles), Rookie of the Year with the Reds, a triple crown with the Orioles - but Frank did play in the World Series 4-times as an Oriole (in six seasons) and was part of two world championship teams. Frank made it to the Fall classic once as a Red. Frank also played for the Dodgers, Angels and Indians in the final years of his playing career, but like Aaron in Milwaukee, noone considers Frank as a Dodger, Indian or Angel (though he did get his first managing job in Cleveland - a player/manager).

    Thus, that one might be tough - Frank as a Red or Oriole. Frank established himself as a great player in Cincy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Jaw
    Perhaps a good comparison would be Frank Robinson - though the Reds and Orioles didn't make a franchise move anytime during Frank's career. I think more people associate Frank with the Baltimore Orioles, though many of know good and well he had ten solid seasons as a Cincinnati Red before coming to Baltimore and playing six seasons - Frank also managed the Orioles for 3 1/2 seasons. Frank won the MVP with both clubs (1961 Reds, 1966 Orioles), Rookie of the Year with the Reds, a triple crown with the Orioles - but Frank did play in the World Series 4-times as an Oriole (in six seasons) and was part of two world championship teams. Frank made it to the Fall classic once as a Red. Frank also played for the Dodgers, Angels and Indians in the final years of his playing career, but like Aaron in Milwaukee, noone considers Frank as a Dodger, Indian or Angel (though he did get his first managing job in Cleveland - a player/manager).

    Thus, that one might be tough - Frank as a Red or Oriole. Frank established himself as a great player in Cincy, but did nothing
    Good points, but I still think Aaron and Ruth are more comparable. Each spent the majority of their career with one club and finished out with another.

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    14 Years in Milwaukee, 9 years in Atlanta

    and he wanted to leave Atlanta to return to Milwaukee and finish his career, because the fans there loved him so much.

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    The Hammer was Milwaukee. He was [and is] about as welcome in the south as the boll weevil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swilcott View Post
    By the way, re: "...he didn't do anything with the Brewers to be remembered for except retire..." Not so. Hank hit 755 (and 754, 753...) (755 is the record, not 715) with the Milwaukee Brewers.
    If 755 isn't significant because it was one home run, neither is 715.
    Both numbers are no loner significant. Sad but true. Thanks to Barry, Roger and others of their [our] time, the entire record book is insignificant. No longer can we compare generations. Leonard Koppett is turning over in his grave.
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    A brave. That is what he played as mostly.
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    I will always think of Hank as a Brave!

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    Milwaukee/Atlanta = New York/SF

    The best comparison for Hank with the Brewers is Willie Mays going to the Mets.

    Mays number should be retired by the New York Mets, everyone at the time perfectly understood why the Mets got him. They were bringing him 'home' to the city that nurtured and loved him. It was a fluke of greedy ownership that took him away from NY. He couldn't come home to the NY Giants because they no longer existed, the Mets replaced them. He absolutely, 100% is a part of Met history, as are all NY national league players.

    It is an exact, parallel situation to Aaron's.

    Aaron should be in the Hall as a Milwaukee Brave. Mays as a New York Giant. If for some hypothetical reason that was not possible, they should be inshrined as a Milwaukee Brewer & a NY Met.

    It's about the city & it's fans, not the uniform that should be honored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Commissioner View Post
    All I have to say is that when Hammering Hank showed up the Cunningham's house it was as a Milwaukee Brave not an Atlanta Brave. If that was cool enough for the Fonz, it's cool enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Zig Tyko View Post
    The Hammer was Milwaukee. He was [and is] about as welcome in the south as the boll weevil.
    There is that.

    The poll needs a third option: Milwaukee Brave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by six4three View Post
    There is that.

    The poll needs a third option: Milwaukee Brave.
    Yes, "that little ol' thang" that reminds us all how the South brings us, has brought us, and always will bring us down as a country.

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    Milwaukee Braves' Hank Aaron

    The poll question misses the point, unfortunately. Aaron was a Milwaukee Brave.
    Also, the photo one participant posted sums up the perception problem. Most fans nowdays weren't around for the Milwaukee Braves and the only thing they've ever seen or heard about was one swing of the bat when Aaron was 40. To those of us who were around in his heyday in Milwaukee, seeing Aaron or any Brave with an "A" on his cap looks funny and out-of-place.
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    MILWAUKEE Brave.

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    Yes, but Mays spent much more time in SF that NY. I agree Aaron belongs more to Milwaukee so to speak but Mays SF is a SF Giant. He really only spent 5 years as a NYG when you consider he was in the military all of 1953 and most of 1952.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apbaball View Post
    Yes, but Mays spent much more time in SF that NY. I agree Aaron belongs more to Milwaukee so to speak but Mays SF is a SF Giant. He really only spent 5 years as a NYG when you consider he was in the military all of 1953 and most of 1952.
    Willie was never appreciated in S.F., as he was in New York. Say it with me now, "WILLIE MAYS, NEW YORK GIANTS."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Zig Tyko View Post
    Willie was never appreciated in S.F., as he was in New York. Say it with me now, "WILLIE MAYS, NEW YORK GIANTS."
    I couldn't agree more. I was born in the 70's but I do consider Mays a NY Giant over SF.
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