crazy hypothetical...C Mo plus a starter, for Man Ram?

[tigers527]

We all know that Manny Ramirez has been itching to get out of Boston. Poll question Craig Monroe plus any one of these SP from last year (Rogers, Verlander, Robertson, or Bonderman), for Manny?...no cheating and saying C Mo and Miner, sure I would do it.

[malt-tones]

We all know that Manny Ramirez has been itching to get out of Boston. Poll question Craig Monroe plus any one of these SP from last year (Rogers, Verlander, Robertson, or Bonderman), for Manny?...no cheating and saying C Mo and Miner, sure I would do it.

What about C Mo, Miner, two bags of batting practice baseballs, and the naming rights to Leylands grandchildren?

No seriously, Manny can swing the bat, but his defense is forgettable. Sure we would stand to gain some power, but I have heard he lollygags more than C Mo. Manny and Mags in the same outfield?

We might as well put Marcus out there and save some salary cap money. This would allow us to get A-Rod for a song, NYY owes us after the Sheffield fleecing, and put him at SS and move Guillen to first.

[KCGHOST]

Monroe and Verlander sure has me thinking.

[Captain Cold Nose]

Monroe and Verlander sure has me thinking.

That's worth a thought, but it may be too much, as much as I like Ramirez. I don't know why some are so quick to dismiss him, considering the numbers he puts up year after year and the invaluable protection he provides for the anointed Ortiz.

[racosun]

There's no way they'd do it for Monroe plus either Rogers (too old) or Robertson (not good enough). Giving up Verlander is too much, like CCN said. He's already the best pitcher on a pretty successful pitching staff, and really young and cheap, too. Monroe and Bonderman may be a more fair deal, but I don't think Manny's added HR's and RBI's (or lineup protection) would be that much more of a help to the team than what Monroe and Bondo give us. While I like Manny, I wouldn't do it. I think he's due nearly $40 million over the final two years of his current contract. With that large chunk of money and his sub-par defense, it's not worth it. It would also take alot more than just Bonderman away from the pitching. Our guys need better D in the large outfield than what a combo of Maggs and Manny would give. I think we should trade Monroe or Thames for a prospect or two, and sign Gary Matthews Jr., so either him or Granderson can play left.

*edit* So much for Gary Matthews Jr., the Angels just signed him to a HUGE 5-year, $50 million contract. Ouch.

[2Chance]

I for one don't want no "Manny being Manny" around here.

[riverfrontier]

I wouldn't trade Verlander for Manny, straight up. Seriously. No joke. Look me in the eyes....See what I mean? You thought you'd find a playful glint. Instead you found a deep, deep commitment to pitching, and also stared straight in through the window of my soul. Now look away before you steal all my ideas on the pursuit of happiness, long may it live.

[slugger33]

Robertson (not good enough)

You don't think Robertson is good enough...? He would be a great pitcher if he had more run support. He always has a low ERA. If he played for a team like the Yankees, I bet he would have at least 15 wins.

[racosun]

You don't think Robertson is good enough...? He would be a great pitcher if he had more run support. He always has a low ERA. If he played for a team like the Yankees, I bet he would have at least 15 wins.

You're saying that a Craig Monroe and Nate Robertson for Manny Ramirez trade is fair? Do you honestly think Boston would go for that one? Not me. I'm not saying Nasty Nate is no good, I'm saying he's not good enough to make that trade a fair one. I'm sure alot of teams would like to have Nate on their team, but they won't give up someone like Manny Ramirez to get him.

Would he get 15 wins with the Yankees? Sure, but who wouldn't? Steve Sparks would win 15 games if he started for the Yankees, even right now. That's not saying a whole lot. And I wouldn't go so far as to say his ERA is always low. In his three full seasons with Detroit, his ERA is 4.90 (2004), 4.48 (2005), and 3.84 (2006). That's not really considered "low".

[slugger33]

I wasn't talking about the deal, I just wasn't saying that he was bad in general.

[ChrisLDuncan]

We all know that Manny Ramirez has been itching to get out of Boston. Poll question Craig Monroe plus any one of these SP from last year (Rogers, Verlander, Robertson, or Bonderman), for Manny?...no cheating and saying C Mo and Miner, sure I would do it.

No way I would trade a young ace like Justin Verlander for an aging hitter who plays awful D who's best years are far behind him. I mean you're going to have enough trouble with the OF you have patrolling the OF at Commerica as it is. Add Manny? BUT....any of those besides Verlander would be a good deal.

[slugger33]

No way I would trade a young ace like Justin Verlander for an aging hitter who plays awful D who's best years are far behind him. I mean you're going to have enough trouble with the OF you have patrolling the OF at Commerica as it is. Add Manny? BUT....any of those besides Verlander would be a good deal.

It would be cool to have Manny, and I would part with Verlander. Manny was underrated last season due to Ortiz's success. Manny the complete package at the plate. He can walk, hit for average, and hit for power. He had one of the top OBP%.

[riverfrontier]

Manny is a decade older than Justin, and with a guy like him, you'd wonder how much fire he'd bring, not playing in New York, which is probably the only place he really wants to play. He'd be here for 4 months and be demanding trades and whatnot. Anybody remember Juan Gonzalez? Sheffield is already gonna monopolize most of Leyland's player relationship skills. From watching the videos of the Matsuzaka guy the Red Sox just got, is there anything he's doing that Verlander doesn't already? The gyro ball? Come on. Where's this pitch? Is it a screwball? If Justin stays healthy, he'll be the next guy to take the Cy Young away from Santana.

[tigers527]

I wonder what I would get if I posted the same poll in the Boston RedSox thread????? hmmmm, I guess I will, minus Verlander.