Least Valuable Player for 2006 (AL and NL)

**plask_stirlac** · 01-01-2002, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by RichmondHillPhoenix

Who is this?

Every one.

Jason Lane was not a bad fielder in any way.

**Solair Wright** · 11-22-2006, 04:23 PM

I know it's not nice to do these threads, but I'm seeing people's opinions with the Least Valuable Player. What is the Least Valuable Player? It's to the player who showed nothing or very little dedication to their teams this year. This counts released players too.

National League LVP - Jason Marquis. His lack of control and poor pitching will effectively mean good-bye to St. Louis.

American League LVP - Carl Everett. How do you get from 10 home runs to nearly none and eventually get released because of poor performance? It just confuses me.

**Astro** · 11-22-2006, 04:29 PM

Marquis won 14 games, while wins dont mean much for being most valuable, a least valuable player doesnt win 14 games... you take away his wins, the Astros make the playoffs over the Cardinals

**EvanAparra** · 11-22-2006, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Astro

Marquis won 14 games, while wins dont mean much for being most valuable, a least valuable player doesnt win 14 games... you take away his wins, the Astros make the playoffs over the Cardinals

They were hardly "his" wins.. more a product of run support. He probably had the worst ERA in the NL for all eligible pitchers.

**CanadianKid** · 11-22-2006, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Solair Wright

I know it's not nice to do these threads, but I'm seeing people's opinions with the Least Valuable Player. What is the Least Valuable Player? It's to the player who showed nothing or very little dedication to their teams this year. This counts released players too.

National League LVP - Jason Marquis. His lack of control and poor pitching will effectively mean good-bye to St. Louis.

American League LVP - Carl Everett. How do you get from 10 home runs to nearly none and eventually get released because of poor performance? It just confuses me.

I'm guessing you never really got a chance to watch Josh Towers pitch last season. I'd give him the AL LVP.

**hubkittel** · 11-22-2006, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by EvanAparra

They were hardly "his" wins.. more a product of run support. He probably had the worst ERA in the NL for all eligible pitchers.

marquis had the highest era (6.02) of any pitcher to qualify for the era title. but he did get that one win share.

for lvp, i like brian mohler in the nl and josh towers in the al.

**hubkittel** · 11-22-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by CanadianKid

I'm guessing you never really got a chance to watch Josh Towers pitch last season. I'd give him the AL LVP.

after his first seven starts wasn't he 0-7 with something like a 10.00 era? that's serious lvp material.

**plask_stirlac** · 11-22-2006, 06:10 PM

Tony Batista, Juan Castro, and Kyle Lohse get a secondary vote from me. Vinny Castilla for NL.

**wu-tang clan** · 11-22-2006, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by plask_stirlac

Tony Batista, Juan Castro, and Kyle Lohse get a secondary vote from me.

what about carlos silva?

**-Kyle-** · 11-22-2006, 07:28 PM

Jason Johnson and Rudy Seanz quickily sprang to mind. Maybe not LVP's but pretty worthless.

**W_Marone** · 11-22-2006, 07:32 PM

Julio Santana for NL LVP.

**plask_stirlac** · 11-22-2006, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by wu-tang clan

what about carlos silva?

Not valuable but there are worse.

**DoubleX** · 11-22-2006, 08:00 PM

I'm waiting for some Yankee fans to chime in and say A-Rod...

**W_Marone** · 11-22-2006, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by DoubleX

I'm waiting for some Yankee fans to chime in and say A-Rod...

Now that would be ridiculous.

Yankee Fans hating A-Rod?

**punker268** · 11-22-2006, 08:19 PM

Abraham Nunez for offensive NL LVP because he had two stinking homers all season! But, he was acceptable on defense . . .

**Jose Reyes** · 11-22-2006, 08:38 PM

I guess the Met nomination would go to Steve Trachsel. He was pretty similar to Marquis. He had 15 wins and although I don't have the exact number I'm almost sure that led the MLB in run support per game.

**W_Marone** · 11-22-2006, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by punker268

Abraham Nunez for offensive NL LVP because he had two stinking homers all season! But, he was acceptable on defense . . .

Remeber Julio Santana? He was horid...we were only lucky enough that he had to have Tommy John surgery...that bum....he was simply put.....TERRIBLE.

**RuthMayBond** · 11-23-2006, 08:48 AM

I'd think it'd be the worst player on Houston, someone who just caused them to miss the playoffs, like Eric Munson, Wandy Rodriguez, Taylor Buchholz

**hubkittel** · 11-23-2006, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by RuthMayBond

I'd think it'd be the worst player on Houston, someone who just caused them to miss the playoffs, like Eric Munson, Wandy Rodriguez, Taylor Buchholz

i think you're on the right track here. the lvp shouldn't automaticly be given to the worst player in either league. you have to take into account contributions the player makes in not getting his team to the playoffs. the bwaa, with their baseball card stat fixation, always wants to give this thing to the player with the fewest hr and rbi. they never take into account the inability to play defense or slow, plodding, horrible baserunning. they never consider a guys complete lack of intangibles.

**Erik Bedard** · 11-23-2006, 11:05 AM

Nobody mentions Bruce Chen or Russ Ortiz?

They were NEVER valuable, at any point of the season. Definitely WAY less valuable than Marquis or Everett. Ortiz was especially value-less to Arizona, who had to pay his insane 8M contract. They both just plain were horrible.

**Biggtone23** · 11-23-2006, 01:07 PM

Dimitri Young - The Tigers were good with him but great without him.

**tearforamariner** · 11-23-2006, 01:11 PM

Neifi Perez should win another LVP. He's got to be the least valuable player in history.

**Big_Mac** · 11-23-2006, 03:16 PM

josh towers and russ ortiz get a split vote when it comes to al for me. when towers came to the mound, before he even threw a pitch, you knew you lost. and why is ortiz even in the bigs? the guy sucked. i watched a few o's games this year when he pitched and he looked lost and the when i saw highlights of him, it showed him consistently being rocked.

for the nl, i can't vote for cristian guzman like i did last year and vowed i would forever because he was injured so i wont vote on that.