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Last edited by Wee Willie; 01-01-2002 at 12:33 AM.
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Of course every season should count as official. It's absolutely necessary for statistical record keeping. Don't count a season, and every player's record shows this year long gap, as well as every team's won-lost record. That would be an incredible eyesore in a baseball encyclopedia - and would also be an insult to everyone who played the game as well.
Look at the 1870's and early 1880's. They played MUCH fewer games than in 1994, and had no post-season. Should we throw those seasons out too, and let those players memories fade into oblivion? Come on - let's be logical here.
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But is it official because it wasn't completed?
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If the season was shortened, why give out Rookie of the year, and Mvp's and all that other crap?
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Why not?..........
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There was no World Series. There was no full season. Maybe Jeff Bagwell would have been in a slump, and Matt Williams picks up the pace. So why bother? It wasn't a full season, so why give any awards?
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That doesn't make any sense.Originally Posted by AlecBoy006
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Ggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Say Jeff Bagwell Gets Injured! Should He Still Have Won The Mvp? We Wouldnt Know!!!
Dont Tell Me You Are In Favor Of Handing Out Awards For 94!!!!!
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I can see your point Alec. However they did hand them out and it was based on performaces in the short season. Everyone had the same opportunities to put up numbers. Will we ever know what would have happened in a full season, no. Just accept it for what it was.Anything else been eatin' at ya?
“…Ruth would be a valuable asset if he could be fitted in somewhere as a regular. This pitcher is the most natural batsman who has broken into the game since Ty Cobb.” ----------------------------------------------- The Sporting Life 8/14/15
"Ruth's homers are the longest that I have ever seen. Others hit home runs, too, but we must wait for them to drop before we are sure of them. When Ruth's hits leave the bat, there is no doubt of their mileage." - Connie Mack
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1994 was a BLACK EYE for baseball. That was a great year until it ended
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Yeah, STBF saying my quote made no sense.
Do you agree with the awards? The people wanted more money! They broke the hardcore's hearts by going on strike in 94. Why should they be awarded for their accomplishments when they punished us fans by taking away OUR game? And why should that Braves streak have counted? The Expos were in first anyway. If we are going to count the MVP's, we might as well have counted the Expos as division champs of the east. Wow, this is confusing!
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I wouldn't know, because I was 2 1/2 in 1994 (My bday is 10/23/91) so most of the year I was 2 1/2 and I wouldn't know anything about it. But 1994's awards should never have been handed.
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Nope, we shouldn't award quitters!!!
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Exactly! I rest my case. 1994- no season, no awards!
Study hard!
Umm the season exists.
But anyway, it recognizes the accomplishments of the players. They did partially end the season, but in a way it's just not furnishing their services to MLB. They aren't firemen, they don't have to play if they don't want to. Now the players did stop midseason, which was unfortunate, but I assume it was supposed to help with leverage against the owners. They should try to settle things without missing time but they don't have to cave and life goes on.
Jeff Bagwell did get injured, he wouldn't have taken MVP over 162.
It's entertainment, the players are at least half of the product (not that AAA baseball brought into the MLB parks would be bad).
If Paul McCartney takes a year-long break, isn't that his choice?
Last edited by plask_stirlac; 12-02-2006 at 03:16 PM.
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JM: Only did that for a couple of years and then we had a conspiracy so it kind of turned me sour. Our league's commissioner, Lew Ford(notes) at the time, was doing some shady things that ... I'd rather not talk about [laughs].
DB: Isn't he in Japan right now?
JM: I don't know where Lou is right now. He's probably fleeing the authorities [laughs].
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The season did exist, but not as a whole
As for your Mccartney analogy, he doesn't have sing or play another note again, but baseball happens every year. Mccartney doesn't happen every year.
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Blame the coaches, managers and writers then. They voted for the Gold Gloves and all the other awards. The writers could have protested by not handing out awards, but they didn't.
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Believe me, if I was a writer in 94, you would've seen me protest.
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We hope so, yes, and we'll pay for it. But if a league is really going under and isn't making enough profit, they fold up. It isn't subsistence farming, which really would have to happen every year even if you're deeper in debt than before you plant.
(fantasy football)
JM: Only did that for a couple of years and then we had a conspiracy so it kind of turned me sour. Our league's commissioner, Lew Ford(notes) at the time, was doing some shady things that ... I'd rather not talk about [laughs].
DB: Isn't he in Japan right now?
JM: I don't know where Lou is right now. He's probably fleeing the authorities [laughs].
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No team is in debt! Some team makes less money but no team is in debt!
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Hmmm -- sure about that??
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Why question me? Prove me wrong! I am sure. There a profit now where the higher teams have to pay the lower teams.
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Chill out buddy, just asking a question. The Marlins were in debt if I remember correctly, and that wasnt that long ago.
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What do you mean as far as debt, when was this? Not that long ago? No team is in debt right!
But there is such thing as profit-sharing!
And I am chillin by eatin chilli!
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Actually, the burden of proof is on you to prove that no team is in debt, not on Evan to prove that any team is in debt.
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