View Poll Results: Willie Mays Poll:

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  • I rank Willie Mays #1 among position players.

    59 24.79%
  • I rank Willie Mays #2 among players.

    38 15.97%
  • I rank Willie Mays #3 among players.

    38 15.97%
  • I rank Willie Mays #4 among players.

    26 10.92%
  • I rank Willie Mays #5 among players.

    19 7.98%
  • I rank Willie Mays #6 among players.

    11 4.62%
  • I rank Mays 7-10 among players.

    25 10.50%
  • I rank Mays above Speaker defensively.

    42 17.65%
  • I rank Speaker above Mays defensively.

    32 13.45%
  • I cannot separate Speaker/Mays defensively.

    42 17.65%
  • I rank Mays among the Top 10 hitters.

    89 37.39%
  • I do not rank Mays among the Top 10 hitters.

    31 13.03%
  • I rank Mays #1 among players since 1930.

    67 28.15%
  • I do not rank Mays #1 among players since 1930.

    59 24.79%
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Thread: Willie Mays Thread

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    Willie Mays Thread

    Welcome to the Willie Mays Thread!
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    I date all my baseball photos using the following book. (Baseball Uniforms of the 20th Century: The Official ML BB Guide, Researched, Illustrated & Written by Marc Okkonen, 1991, 1993)

    Also, the following website, hostd by the Hall of Fame, mainly using the same book above, but also using images after 1993, has assisted me in dating some of the photos. http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.o...e.htm#database

    On this photographic gallery, I have attempted, using the book above, to date all the photos. If I caption a photo with the following, John Smith, Cubs OF, 1910-13, that means that the photo was taken sometime between 1910-13, when the player was on the Cubs. It does NOT mean that the player was only on the Cubs in that time frame. He might have been on the Cubs from 1900-18, but the photo was only taken between 1910-13.
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    We also have some very nice, attractive team photo collections---New York Yankees---New York Giants---Detroit Tigers---Pittsburgh Pirates---Brooklyn Dodgers


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    -------------------Willie Mays, Giants' CF, 1951-57 -------------1958-72 ---- BB Reference---Willie Mays Thread/Photos
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    -----------------------------------------------------1958-72


    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1955----------------------------------------March, 1955---Willie on video


    ----------------------------1956--------------------------October 5, 1951: L-R: Monte Irvin, Willie Mays, Hank Thompson


    Source: Below, Right: Classic Baseball: The Photographs of Walter Iooss, Jr., text by Dave Anderson, 2003, pp. 139.

    July 11, 1961 All-Star Game: Roberto Clemente, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron------------------1963, Philadelphia


    ---------------October, 1962, World Series time. (Corbis)---Willie on video


    ------------September 1, 1963 (Corbis)


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    New York Mets, OF, 1972-73


    Source: Baseball: A Celebration!, by James Buckley, Jr./Jim Gigliotti, 2001, pp. 397.---Willie on video
    --------June, 1968

    Last edited by Bill Burgess; 07-25-2011 at 02:03 PM.

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    Willie's Relative Stats:

    ----Relative BA-----Rel.Slg.-----Rel.onbase------Rel.ISO--------OPS+
    ----114.3 (79th)---139.2 (17th)---116.8 (53rd)---186.1 (23rd)----156 (20th)

    Home/Away------BA----Slg.----onbase---HR-----D----T-----RBI------AB------BB
    Home:---------.302---567-----.389-----335---258----61---930-----5,239----719
    Away:---------.301---.549-----.385------325---265---79---973-----5,642---744

    Hitting Stats:

    Mays, Cobb, Wagner, Hornsby, Ruth, Gehrig, T. Williams, Mantle, Aaron, DiMaggio, Speaker, Lajoie, Musial, Collins, Crawford, J. Jackson, Wheat, Roush, Foxx, Clemente, Schmidt, Yaz, Anson, Bonds, B. Williams, Kiner, Killebrew, Rose, Gwynn, Kaline, Greenberg, Waner, R. Jackson, Boggs, Gehringer, Brouthers, Delahanty, Simmons, Mize, Brett, F. Robinson, Ashburn, Sisler, Snider, Banks, Molitor, Keeler, Bench, Terry, Henderson.

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    5th-------------1----1----0---0----2---0----1----1---5---4---0---1--0
    6th-------------1----2----2---0----2---2----2----0---1---0---0---3--1
    
    Cobb--------BA--Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI-TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
    led league--12---8----3----4----1---5---4---6----7----8----6---0--11
    2nd-league---3---3----4----4----2---2---2---2----7----3----1---1---3
    3rd----------1---3----4----2----2---2---1---2----0----3----2---0---1 
    4th----------2---0----0----1----0---1---0---1----0----1----3---1---1
    5th----------1---0----0----1----0---2---1---0----1----0----0---1---0
    6th----------2---0----2----0----0---0---0---0----0----0----0---0---0
    
    Wagner-------BA--Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI--TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
    led league----8---2----7----3----0---2---5----7---4----6----5---0--6
    2nd league----2---2----1----3----1---2---2----1---1----3----0---0--2
    3rd-----------0---5----3----2----0---2---2----4---2----2----2---0--2
    4th-----------2---3----0----0----1---2---3----2---1----1----0---1--1
    5th-----------1---1----1----0----2---1---1----2---2----0----0---0--0
    6th-----------1---0----0----1----2---0---1----0---0----1----0---1--0
    
    Hornsby-----BA---Hits-2B---3B--HR----R--RBI--TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
    led league---8----4----4----2---2----5---4----7----9----9----0---3--12
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    6th----------0----0----0----1---1----0---1----1----1----0----0---2---1
    
    Ruth---------BA---Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI--TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
    led league----1----0----1----0---12---8---6----6----9---13----0--11--13
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    Gehrig------BA---Hits-2B---3B---HR--Runs--RBI--TB---OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
    Led league---1----1----1----4----2----4----4----2----4----2---0---3--3
    2nd league---2----3----0----0----4----2----4----3----2----4---0---2--6
    3rd----------3----0----0----1----3----3----2----2----3----1---0---3--3
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    6th----------1----0----1----0----1----0----0----1----0----0---0---1--0			
    							
    Ted Williams--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA--SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
    Led league-----6----0----2---0---4---6----4----6---12---8---0---8--9
    2nd in league--2----1----2---0---4---1----2----0----0---1---0---1--1
    3rd------------1----2----0---0---2---1----1----4----0---1---0---2--3
    4th------------1----1----2---0---0---1----1----0----0---2---0---0--0
    5th------------0----4----0---0---0---0----1----0----0---0---0---1--0
    6th------------0----0----0---0---3---0----0----0----1---0---0---1--0
    												
    Mickey Mantle--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
    Led league------1----1----0---1---4----6----1----3---3---4---0---5--8
    2nd in league---1----0----1---0---3----2----3----4---5---0---0---3--3
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    5th-------------0----0----0---0---1----0----2----0---0---0---0---0--0
    6th-------------0----0----0---1---0----1----3----0---1---1---0---1--0				
    
    	
    
    Hank Aaron----BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
    Led league-----2---2----4---0---4----3----4---8---0---4---0---0--3
    2nd in league--0---3----2---2---4----1----0---2---2---5---1---1--4
    3rd------------0---1----1---0---1----4----2---2---3---4---0---2--4
    4th------------3---0----1---2---2----2----2---2---1---1---2---2--1
    5th------------4---0----0---0---2----1----1---0---2---1---0---0--1
    6th------------0---3----1---0---2----1----1---1---1---2---2---0--2	
    
    Joe DiMaggio---BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA--SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
    Led league------2---0----0---1---2---1----2----3---0----2---0---0--1
    2nd in league---0---1----1---0---0---2----3----2---0----5---0---0--4
    3rd-------------2---1----0---4---1---0----3----1---2----0---0---0--2
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    5th-------------0---0----0---0---2---2----1----2---0----0---0---0--1
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    Tris Speaker--BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
    Led league-----1---2----8---0---1---0----0----1---4---1---0---0--1
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    3rd------------7---2----1---1---0---2----1----2---4---4---1---0--5	
    4th------------2---4----0---0---2---2----2----3---3---4---1---4--3
    5th------------1---2----0---0---0---0----0----1---1---2---3---2--3
    6th------------1---0----1---1---0---2----0----0---0---1---1---3--0
    
    Nap Lajoie---BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs--RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
    Led league----3---4----5---0---1----1----3---4---2---4---0---0--3
    2nd in league-3---0----4---1---0----1----1---2---2---3---0---0--3
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    4th-----------1---1----1---0---0----1----1---2---1---0---0---0--1
    5th-----------0---1----0---0---0----0----1---0---1---0---0---0--0
    6th-----------3---1----0---0---2----0----1---0---0---2---1---0--4
    
    Stan Musial-BA--Hits-2B---3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
    Led league---7---6----8----5---0---5----2----6---6---6----0---1--6
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    6th----------0---0----2----0---1---0----0----1---1---0----0---0--1
    
    Ed Collins--BA--Hits-2B--3B---HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
    Led League---0---0----0---0----0---3----0---0----0---0---4---1--0
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    Crawford----BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
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    6th----------1----0----2---3---1----0----2----1---1---0---1---0--1
    
    J.Jackson---BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
    led league---0----2----1---3---0---0----0---2---1----1----0---0--0
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    Z. Wheat----BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
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    Edd Roush--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
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    6th---------0----1----0---0---0---0----1---2---1----1----1---0--1
    
    J. Foxx-----BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG--SB--BB--OPS+
    led league---2-----0---0---0---4---1----3---3---3---5----0---2--5
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    Clemente----BA---Hits-2B--3B---HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
    led league---4----2----0---1----0---0----0----0---0---0---0---0--0
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    Yaz----------BA---Hits-2B-3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
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    Anson-------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR---Runs--RBI-TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
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    Rose--------BA-Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
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    Gwynn------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB---OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
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    leecemark; December 3, 2004, 06:58 AM
    Cobb Wins
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    -Congratulations to Tyrus Raymond Cobb and his supporters for his victory over an extremely competitive field. I'd like to thank everyone who particiapated in the discussions on this thread. This has been easily the best of the series so far. Whether we're getting better as we go along or this was a result of the deep field of truely great players, we had some excellent debates on the merits of several players and some good side issues as well.
    1) Ty Cobb 259
    2) Willie Mays 253
    3) Mickey Mantle 209
    4) Tris Speaker 196
    5) Joe DiMaggio 182
    6) Oscar Charleston 108
    7) Ken Griffey Jr 91
    8) Duke Snider 70
    9) Cool Papa Bell 36
    10) Billy Hamilton 26
    -------------------------
    11) Richie Ashburn 25
    12) Lary Doby 23
    13) Kirby Puckett 20
    --Nobody else reached double figures
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    538280; December 17, 2005, 08:44 AM
    Poll Results
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    We had 24 ballots submitted, and it was a very close race for #1. In the end, Ty Cobb claimed his spot as the BBF #1 CFer by a slight margin over Willie Mays. Here's everyone who received 10 or more votes (first place votes in parenthesis):

    1. Ty Cobb-253 (14)
    2. Willie Mays-242 (10)
    3. Tris Speaker-175
    4. Mickey Mantle-169
    5. Joe DiMaggio-147
    6. Oscar Charleston-114
    7. Ken Griffey Jr.-82
    8. Duke Snider-55
    9. Billy Hamilton-45
    10. Cool Papa Bell-33
    11. Richie Ashburn-15
    12. Christobal Torriente-14
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Bill Burgess; May 27, 2007, 10:59 PM

    1.) Ty Cobb - 266 points (15 first place votes)
    2.) Willie Mays - 244 points (12 first place votes)
    3.) Mickey Mantle - 213 points (0 first place votes)
    4.) Tris Speaker - 197 points (1 first place vote)
    5.) Joe Dimaggio - 166 points (1 first place vote)
    6.) Oscar Charleston - 119 points
    7.) Ken Griffey Jr. - 109 points
    8.) Duke Snider - 70 points
    9.) Billy Hamilton - 50 points
    10.) Cool Papa Bell - 28 points
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    11.) Kirby Puckett - 11 points
    12.) Spot Poles - 8 points
    13.) Martin Dihigo - 7 points
    14.) Jimmy Wynn - 7 points
    15.) Christobal Torriente - 5 points
    16.) Richie Ashburn - 5 points
    17.) Lary Doby - 5 points
    18.) Jim Edmonds - 4 points
    19.) Fred Lynn - 4 points
    20.) Hugh Duffy - 3 points
    21.) Paul Hines - 2 points
    22.) Turkey Stearns - 2 points
    23.) Cesar Cedeno - 1 point
    24.) Dale Murphy - 1 point
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    Greatest Hitter series, conducted by Bill Burgess, ending November 4, 2007, 08:05 AM

    1. Babe Ruth---------68 votes - 95.77%
    1. Ted Williams-------68 - 95.77%
    3. Ty Cobb-----------52 - 73.24%
    4. Rogers Hornsby----36 - 50.70%
    5. Lou Gehrig---------32 - 45.07%
    6. Barry Bonds
    7. Mickey Mantle
    8. Stan Musial
    9. Hank Aaron
    10. Willie Mays
    11. Jimmy Foxx
    12. Honus Wagner
    13. Frank Thomas
    14. Tris Speaker
    15. Frank Robinson
    16. Joe DiMaggio
    17. Joe Jackson
    18. Josh Gibson
    19. Nap Lajoie
    20. Mel Ott
    21. Oscar Charleston
    22. Alexander Rodriguez
    23. Dan Brouthers
    24. Mike Schmidt

    Athletes of the Decade Posing Together; November 27, 1962
    Eleven of the 12 sports figures honored November 26th as "Athletes of the Decade" pose at the Americana Hotel, New York.

    Top Row: L-R: Maurice Richard (hockey); Warren Spahn (baseball); Rocky Marciano (boxing).

    Middle Row: L-R: Jim Brown (football); Arnold Palmer (golf); Bob Cousy (basketball); Chuck Bednarik (football).

    Bottom Row: L-R: Willie Mays (baseball); Roger Ward (auto racing); Eddie Arcaro (horse racing); Del Miller (harness racing).--------Don Carter (bowling) was absent.



    -------------1958-72
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    [B]My main problem with Mays is that he never had an all-time great season. Sure, he was great in '55 and in '65, but never really had an historically great season. Amassed 65 ABR once (including his SB) and eclipsed an 180 OPS+ once.
    and ecliped 40 win shares twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderers Row
    My main problem with Mays is that he never had an all-time great season. Sure, he was great in '55 and in '65, but never really had an historically great season. Amassed 65 ABR once (including his SB) and eclipsed an 180 OPS+ once.
    and ecliped 40 win shares twice.
    He eclipsed 40 WS five times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 538280
    He eclipsed 40 WS five times.
    Actually, we're both wrong. It was four. '54, '55, '61, and '65.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderers Row
    Actually, we're both wrong. It was four. '54, '55, '61, and '65.
    No, it was five, I have the Win Shares book right in front of me. He had 40 in '54, 40 in '55, 40 in '58, 41 in '62, and 43 in '65. Five times.

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    THe '01 absract said he had 39 in 58.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderers Row
    THe '01 absract said he had 39 in 58.
    Yeah, some of the WS numbers between the Abstract and the WS book are different by one WS here or there. I guess that's one of the cases.

    Anyway....Willie Mays. Glad to see he has his own thread. Here's an old link that was given here a long time ago, a public service announcment Mays made warning of "blasting caps":

    http://homepage.mac.com/pjfraser/bla...heater104.html

    I love that clip!

    One thing I've always been interested in is how the new San Francisco Giants fans reacted to Mays when he first came to SF. You'd think they'd embrace him, it's not often you get arguably the greatest baseball player ever blow into your town, but I've read before that they didn't always like him that much, because they thought of him as a New York star, and wanted their own star to represent San Francisco. They latched on to Orlando Cepeda in that way, and for a while they liked him even more than Mays. At least that's what I"ve read. Anyone else have any knowledge on the fans' reception of him?

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    No one has anything to say about Mays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 538280
    No one has anything to say about Mays?
    Chris, instead of doing your customary nice stat job on a player, can you remember any stories on Willie. I refuse to believe that no one can remember a single story on Willie Mays.

    I have one. My good friend, who I take care of for a job, thinks Willie is a jerk, because he once ran up a nice bill in his restaurant, and then walked out without leaving a tip! I just had to laugh when he told me the story. A waiter had to run out and ask him for it! Now that's what I call funny.

    On a more serious note, Willie once told the story in an interview that he was team captain, from CF. He said that all the Giants had to look to CF for every play to get his input. And he said that woe be the guy who refused to look to him. He facial expression told the story of a dugout scuffle if anyone disrespected him to that degree.

    Need more stories, guys.

    Bill
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    Is Mays' 1965 season his best season? I find it odd that his career high in walks (112) and strikeouts (123) came in 1971 at age 40. Those are by far his highest walk and strikeout single season totals.

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    I remember a few years ago there was a great TV special on a local SF T.V. station about the career and life of Willie Mays. It implied that some of the fans turned on Willie in the mid 1960s. It was around the time that he collapsed on the field (1966?). I think he was going through a divorce as well. Does anyone remember Mays collapsing on the field? I think it was during batting practice.

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    Just wondering, who is better than Mays since 1930? Mantle? Williams? These seem like the only other reasonable options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 538280
    Yeah, some of the WS numbers between the Abstract and the WS book are different by one WS here or there. I guess that's one of the cases.

    Anyway....Willie Mays. Glad to see he has his own thread. Here's an old link that was given here a long time ago, a public service announcment Mays made warning of "blasting caps":

    http://homepage.mac.com/pjfraser/bla...heater104.html

    I love that clip!

    One thing I've always been interested in is how the new San Francisco Giants fans reacted to Mays when he first came to SF. You'd think they'd embrace him, it's not often you get arguably the greatest baseball player ever blow into your town, but I've read before that they didn't always like him that much, because they thought of him as a New York star, and wanted their own star to represent San Francisco. They latched on to Orlando Cepeda in that way, and for a while they liked him even more than Mays. At least that's what I"ve read. Anyone else have any knowledge on the fans' reception of him?
    It was part because Willie was first famous in NY, and part because he was already a superstar and up on the pedestal when he came west. And it wasn't so much Cepeda that the fans latched on to, but McCovey. Stretch just played in a way that captured the fancy of the crowd, with that awesome long swing of his. Orlando was a great player, but McCovey was electric to watch.

    There is a lot of talk about Willie and his relations with the fans, but it never struck me as being as bad as people seem to think it was. And of course now, he's pretty much treated as a deity at ATT Park.
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    Sorry I thought I could only vote for 1. I would like to add that I can't separate Mays from Speaker defensively, and that I rate Mays in my top 10 hitters of all time. (actually 8 or 9).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honus Wagner Rules
    Is Mays' 1965 season his best season? I find it odd that his career high in walks (112) and strikeouts (123) came in 1971 at age 40. Those are by far his highest walk and strikeout single season totals.
    Usually when you get older, you get to know the strikezone better. Which probably why he walked 112 times. Someone did a study on this, it might have been BJ, where he noticed that players BB% go up as they got older.

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    The Catch:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dK6zPbkFnE

    "But the throw! What an astonishing throw to make all other throws ever before it, even the four Mays himself had made during fielding practice, appear the flings of teenage girls. This was the throw of a giant, the throw of a howitzer made human." - Arnold Hano

    Too bad full footage of the throw is not seen in the clip.

    I found a story about Mays making a great bare-handed catch (can't remember if it was in practice or a game). When he came back to the dugout, he was expecting high praise, but instead got the silent treatment. Disheartened, Willie asked manager Leo Durocher if he had seen the play. Durocher responded that he hadn't, and that Mays would just have to do it again to prove it.

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    http://www.tangotiger.net/agepatterns.txt

    Here's Tango's look at aging patterns. Seems to indicate that walks increase with age. Bill James reached the same conclusions, I believe.

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    I'd like to state for the record that, although Willie Mays is my favorite player of all-time, I can't with good conscience rank him on an all-time scale against pre-1930 greats.

    I will say, however, that I can definitely separate Mays defensively from Speaker.
    Put it in the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 538280
    No one has anything to say about Mays?
    I do. I think he was the greatest player in baseball history.


    i was a new yorker who moved to SF the summer of 1957. I saw mays play at least 40-50 games a year from 1958 thru 1971. I saw him less when he was a NY giant..maybe ten-15 games a year.(I was a yankee/mantle fan)
    Mays was not welcomed with open arms in SF - in fact, it was the opposite-he was viewed as a outsider who was hyped by the new york press. Cepeda was voted mvp of the giants in 1958- he was "theirs"....mays they "inherited" One of the main things you read about Willie in the SF press was that he did not bunt enough!
    When Mays first came to SF he couldn't find a realator to sell him a house in the neighborhood he had chosen to live-the mayor of SF actually invited mays to stay with him until something could be worked out. When mays did move in to the house he had chosen, he was greeted with a brick thru his living room window.
    He had a very rough time In SF until 1962. By then, fans and sportwriters finally started to realize what a great player he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westfield
    One of the main things you read about Willie in the SF press was that he did not bunt enough!
    Sounds like Sisler not walking enough.
    Last edited by Bill Burgess; 12-08-2006 at 09:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honus Wagner Rules
    Is Mays' 1965 season his best season? I find it odd that his career high in walks (112) and strikeouts (123) came in 1971 at age 40. Those are by far his highest walk and strikeout single season totals.
    In 1971, McCovey was injured for a good portion of the season. Mays was not seeing as many good pitches to swing at ...hence the walk total. he also stole 23 bases that year...his highest total since 1960.

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    Something to say? Well, he's the best player from Alabama over Aaron, but that makes it very close.

    It's very special to hit 50 HR in 1955 and do it again 10 years later, in a low-scoring league.

    He's the only 325-325 SB man besides Bonds, and went 23/26 at age 40 for 8th place in the league.

    5th in career XBH with poor parks for them, and one of 8 500 2B 500 HR hitters.
    (fantasy football)
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    JM: I don't know where Lou is right now. He's probably fleeing the authorities [laughs].

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    Here are a some of my favorite quotes about Willie Mays:

    "he is a hitter all right, and one of the best that ever lived. But this man does it all. He fields, he runs, he studies, he hardly ever makes mistakes. He is a very special person" -Joe DiMaggio

    "There has never been a perfect ball player. Willi Mays came closet to perfection" - Joe DiMaggio

    "Willie ranks with DiMaggio as the best I ever saw. He's the perfect ballplayer too. Mays can beat a club with his bat, his glove, his arm, and his legs" - Stan Musial

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    and a couple more quotes about Willie Mays

    "It was his solemn duty to catch a ball that wasn't in the stands"- Monte Irvin

    " I think anybody who saw him will tell you that Mays is the greatest ballplayer that ever lived"-Monte Irvin

    "the greatest player I ever saw is Willie Mays" - Joe Gordon (DiMaggio teammate and AL manager.)

    ""you would see games where he would win it for us and he wouldn't even get a hit...he did things that nobody else does"-Willie McCovey

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