That doesn't mean it will happen, but it's possible.
There are some people out there that no matter how hard they try, they will just never reach a certain level, they just don't have what it takes. Felix DOES have what it takes - but there have been enough players out there who had that talent and never did anything with it, or never reached their potential. If everything works out (and things are looking up at the moment wouldn't you say?), then yes, the sky is the limit.
I might also add that Santana gave up 4 runs in 6 innings, giving up 7 hits and 2 walks, while only striking out 6). Now I suspect that will be his worst game of the season....but.....take what you will from this.
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Anything is possible with ending up a Top 15 pitcher, since he's still not old enough to have a beer... but better than Santana right now? That's too much for me... He's going to have to put up a 2.60 or so ERA, throw a lot of innings, strike out more batters,and walk less batters.
Some people like to think they're better than other by refusing to take a stand and make the call before the results are in. Saying "Felxi has to throw better than Santana for me to say he's better than Santana" does nothing for me. I'm calling it now. If I'm wrong, at least I did my best work and stood by my beliefs.
Well, what we saw today WAS like Santana, and maybe some Clemens in there as well.
If anyone says what we saw today wasn't domination, then I don't know what is. 8 scoreless frames, 12 SO's, only 5 men on base!!! What, only 2 guys got past 1st?
3 guys got to 2nd...one got to 3rd with 1 out and then stood there helplessly while Felix made Kendall and Bradley look like mice in the talens of an eagle.
Say all you want about his youth and his having to Prove It (TM)...he's better than Santana. Now.
It's a bold prediction, and I like that and all, I just hope you're ready to eat your words if you are wrong and not hide behind something like "Well, he was just unlucky and Santana was very lucky" or something of the sort.
Yes. Felix was better than Santana April 2nd, 2007. Let's all remember that. Now I want to know who was the best this season, October, 2007.
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What do you do to a club (Oakland) that's trained to take pitches and work the count ? You throw stikes. Strike one, Strike two ! Felix shows that these hitters are like any others, when they fall behind in the count. I think I saw a couple of times where some of these Oakland guys got impatient at the plate.
It's got to be a lift for the whole team to beat Oakland on opening day. One game does not make a season, but it's something to build on.
I think it's more likely that he'll be top 30 or about on par with Santana. Also, I think that it's likely that he'll have a few dominating years, but then due to injury (or whatever) not be a top level player. That happens all the time. The list of top pitchers would be very different if those injuries hadn't happened.So, in short, you think Felix will be a top 15 pitcher of all-time and he is better than Johan Santana right now? Sounds somewhat unrealistic.
18 wins, 230 IP, 3.00 ERA, 200 K, 70 BB
205 IP, 3.43 ERA, 195 K, 68 BB
Gee. Felix blows Dice-K away like dust in the wind and the next projection out gets more optimistic.
WHEN his ERA is under 2.50, everyone here can remember that I got it right first.
If Felix keeps throwin' like he is, he might deserve his own thread.
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