I have Williams over Anson as the greatest Cub ever. Banks meant more to the Cubs, but even position ajustment could tell you Banks was one dimensional.
I have Williams over Anson as the greatest Cub ever. Banks meant more to the Cubs, but even position ajustment could tell you Banks was one dimensional.
Are you serious? I have to think this is a personal preference of yours. Have you looked at the numbers side by side?Originally Posted by AlecBoy006
Cap played in less games 2276 to 2488
Cap had less at bats 9101 to 9350
Cap scored more runs 1719 to 1410
Cap had more hits 2995 to 2711
Cap had more doubles 528 to 434
Cap had more triples 124 to 88
Cap had LESS homers 97 to 426
Cap had more RBI 1879 to 1475
Cap had LESS walks 952 to 1045
Cap had LESS K’s 294 to 1046
Cap’s AVG/OBP/SLG .329/.395/.446 compared to Williams’ .290/.361/.492
Notice Williams hit 329 more homeruns but still has a SLG% that is ONLY .046 points higher.
I realize you started this thread to debate the "Mr Cub" title between Banks and Williams. But I think we would be wrong to keep Cap out of the debate, because stat-wise Anson's are on a different level. I dont think the era matters in this debate, we are talking best ever. Cap was the best player of his time as well... not just a mediocre player. Williams can not say he was the best player playing in the league when he played...
I say best ever should be Cap Anson.
Mr Cub should be Banks tho.
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Cap has longevity on his side and due to some quirks at the end of his career probably squeezed out 5 more seasons then he would have without the quirks.
It is kind of scary when you think about it. The Cubs have been around for over 120 years and yet the best player of all time in their franchise might have played over 100 years ago. That is just how badly Mr. PK Wrigley ran this company.
Gabby Hartnett, Ernie Banks, Sammy Sosa, Ryne Sandberg, Billy Williams, Ron Santo, Stan Hack, and Cap Anson are probably all in the running for best Cub ever.
Steroid Sammy? Nah.
Banks= 1 dimensional.
Santo= No. But he gave it alot.
Stan Hack= Nah.
Gabby Hartnett- great catcher, but I wouldn't say so.
Ryne Sandberg- now, he's my FAVORITE Cub, but I don't think he's the best.
Cap Anson- played a long time ago where I don't know too much of.
Billy Williams- AH! Now you're somewhere.
You should have just titled this thread "Williams is my boy"...Originally Posted by AlecBoy006
The stats were still tracked the same way along time ago as they were in the 60's/70's... And just looking at the numbers... Billy Williams can't even carry Cap's batbag for him.
Sorry.
Agree to disagree? I am fine with that.
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I agree to disagree.
What about Spalding?
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Nah, Spalding isn't even the best pitcher in Cubs' history. Mordecai Brown was better.Originally Posted by Jibbs67
By leaps and bounds, Mordecai was better.Originally Posted by tearforamariner
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They had a great pitching staff during the late 00's when they won those 2 consecutive world series and included a 116 win season when they didn't win it. Spalding was all by himself, and was pitching consecutive days at times.Originally Posted by tearforamariner
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