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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm_A_Shark View Post
    He hit his 4th HR today to have the MLB lead.
    Make it 5 bombs, three games in a row he has hit a homerun. It is also 5 bombs in the last 6 games.
    LETS GO YANKEES!

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    Aaaaaa-Roooood!

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    Interesting how quickly things change. On ESPN.com, the clip is titled, "A-Rod Leads Yankees Past Twins." It's interesting because the Yankees were already ahead like 6-1 and A-Rod was 0-3 at that time. A week ago, ESPN and all the other morons would just be chucking that homer up to meaningless stat padding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JordanDL3891 View Post
    Make it 5 bombs, three games in a row he has hit a homerun. It is also 5 bombs in the last 6 games.
    Great. But it's April. If you've been a Yankee fan for a while then you know what Reggie said: "They don't pay you in New York for the 162 games during the season, they pay you to win the 11 in October." Reggie heard his share of boos during his tenure with the Yankees, especially from the fans who loved the gritty, pinstripe blooded and psychotic Billy Martin. He turned all those boos into cheers in October of 1977.
    A-Rod could hit 80 homeruns this year, break Hack Wilsons RBI record and bat .410, but if he goes 1-14 in the post season and the Yanks get bounced in the first round again, he'll be the kicking dog. It's unfair, but that's just the way it is in da Bronx. By the same token, he could go oh-for-the playoffs and games 1-6 of the World Series, but if he wins game 7 with a single, he'll be a hero. Ridiculous. I hope he finally realizes just how ridiculous, accepts the absurdity of the situation, laughs it off and relaxes.
    Dave Winfield is in the Hall, but you don't see #31 on "The Wall", and you never will. All he's remembered for here is his one meaningless single in the '81 World Series, and the ridiculous gesture of asking for the ball. Oh yeah, and the seagull he murdered. Nice.
    He's loved in Toronto though.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by tommybaseball View Post
    Great. But it's April. If you've been a Yankee fan for a while then you know what Reggie said: "They don't pay you in New York for the 162 games during the season, they pay you to win the 11 in October." Reggie heard his share of boos during his tenure with the Yankees, especially from the fans who loved the gritty, pinstripe blooded and psychotic Billy Martin. He turned all those boos into cheers in October of 1977.
    A-Rod could hit 80 homeruns this year, break Hack Wilsons RBI record and bat .410, but if he goes 1-14 in the post season and the Yanks get bounced in the first round again, he'll be the kicking dog. It's unfair, but that's just the way it is in da Bronx. By the same token, he could go oh-for-the playoffs and games 1-6 of the World Series, but if he wins game 7 with a single, he'll be a hero. Ridiculous. I hope he finally realizes just how ridiculous, accepts the absurdity of the situation, laughs it off and relaxes.
    Dave Winfield is in the Hall, but you don't see #31 on "The Wall", and you never will. All he's remembered for here is his one meaningless single in the '81 World Series, and the ridiculous gesture of asking for the ball. Oh yeah, and the seagull he murdered. Nice.
    He's loved in Toronto though.
    I`m not going to even reply to this post
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DoubleX View Post
    Interesting how quickly things change. On ESPN.com, the clip is titled, "A-Rod Leads Yankees Past Twins." It's interesting because the Yankees were already ahead like 6-1 and A-Rod was 0-3 at that time. A week ago, ESPN and all the other morons would just be chucking that homer up to meaningless stat padding.
    Was that an important HR though?

    It gave the Yankees a bigger lead and prevented them from being forced to use Proctor. Without the HR the final score is 6-2 and maybe you have to manage the game more carefully then. I`m not saying it was huge but it wasn't stat-padding

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommybaseball View Post
    Great. But it's April. If you've been a Yankee fan for a while then you know what Reggie said: "They don't pay you in New York for the 162 games during the season, they pay you to win the 11 in October." Reggie heard his share of boos during his tenure with the Yankees, especially from the fans who loved the gritty, pinstripe blooded and psychotic Billy Martin. He turned all those boos into cheers in October of 1977.
    A-Rod could hit 80 homeruns this year, break Hack Wilsons RBI record and bat .410, but if he goes 1-14 in the post season and the Yanks get bounced in the first round again, he'll be the kicking dog. It's unfair, but that's just the way it is in da Bronx. By the same token, he could go oh-for-the playoffs and games 1-6 of the World Series, but if he wins game 7 with a single, he'll be a hero. Ridiculous. I hope he finally realizes just how ridiculous, accepts the absurdity of the situation, laughs it off and relaxes.
    Dave Winfield is in the Hall, but you don't see #31 on "The Wall", and you never will. All he's remembered for here is his one meaningless single in the '81 World Series, and the ridiculous gesture of asking for the ball. Oh yeah, and the seagull he murdered. Nice.
    He's loved in Toronto though.

    One, I am very very happy for ARod. He just got the AL Player of the Week. I don't know how long this can continue but that grand slam was one of those moments. I am enjoying it now. Being a older Yankee fan. You are correct. For me the year is how we do in post season. Joe talks about winning the AL East (OK) But we lose in first and second round so for me the season was NOT successful. Your two examples are Great. Reggie is always be Mr October and Dave who. ARod must win WS and have some decent numbers. I want 11 straight games in post season (no loses) with ARod hitting 11 hrs, zero errors, and BA 0.400. Then give him the keys to the city, sign him for life, have him run for president.

    DX: I see the Arod articles with many writers. It like a catch line for these guys. If ARod is in the title or first line - they think more people will read it. I don't like it but I agree with you. (It's like - Arod has one SO and that's the reason we lost or his HR last night was the reason for the win). Sometimes, I feel these writers don't even watch the game like you do.


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    I'm happy that ARod is off to a hot start and is a major contributor to the offensive attack. However, I am noticing that the majority of his hits have been homers. Its a bit of a concern to me because its either he hits a homer or he makes an out. That is not a very good percentage.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by rustyray View Post
    I'm happy that ARod is off to a hot start and is a major contributor to the offensive attack. However, I am noticing that the majority of his hits have been homers. Its a bit of a concern to me because its either he hits a homer or he makes an out. That is not a very good percentage.
    He's also batting some thing like .380

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    Quote Originally Posted by iPod View Post
    It should be "Mans up," not "Man's up."



    An RBI to put your team two runs ahead when the other team has already scored ten runs is hardly "padding." Of course Jeter's hit was more noteworthy, but that doesn't mean A-Rod's was worthless. Come on, use your common sense here.



    That's only the beginning. We also have antennae, walk on all fours and eat our young. Let me know if you need help getting off that high horse of yours.



    What are you talking about? A-Rod already won an MVP in New York. He's already performed well in the postseason at least a couple of times; that's the thing that's so bizarre about all this. Are Yankee fans' memories really so bad that I need to remind you about the 2004 postseason, or was that so scarring that you've just all blocked it out of your minds completely?

    In 2 out of the 3 Yankee wins in the 2004 ALDS against the Twins, Rodriguez was directly involved in the process of driving in the winning run.

    Game 2:
    Bottom of the ninth, 1 out, Cairo is on second, Jeter on first, and the Yankees are down 6-5. Can everyone here agree this is a clutch situation for A-Rod? Yes? OK, good.

    A-Rod doubled in that at-bat, scoring Cairo (hence, tying the game) and sending Jeter to third with only one out. That set up a Matsui sac fly and ended the game.

    Game 4:
    Top of the ninth, none on, none out, score tied 5-5. A run would obviously give the Yankees the lead, which if they manage to hold in the bottom of the ninth, would clinch the series. Would everyone agree this is a clutch situation for A-Rod?

    A-Rod doubled in that at-bat too, putting the Yankees in pretty freakin' good position to win the series, considering Sheffield, Matsui and Williams were coming up. The Yankees didn't score; 2 strikeouts and a pop out to second followed.

    Top of the eleventh, none on, one out (Jeter, who K'ed), score still tied 5-5. Again, a clutch situation.

    A-Rod doubled yet again, and stole third base for good measure, scoring on a wild pitch. The Yankees behind him quickly went down in order; pop out to second and strikeout. They held the lead and won the series. Rodriguez hit .421 in that series with 4 extra-base hits.

    That's A-Rod's best performance in the postseason, granted, but he hasn't been a complete zero besides that. He had a .378 OBP and .516 slugging percent in the ALCS that year, both exceeding the team average (compared to Jeter's .333 OBP and .233 slugging). In the bottom of the 8th of game 1, with the Yankees only ahead 8-7 and the game still in doubt, A-Rod singled to start a 2-run rally which put the game away. In game 3 of that series, he homered in the 3rd to tie the game 4-4. Granted it's only the third, but how many game tying HRs do you have to hit in the postseason before people stop calling you a choker?

    And he's had other good postseason series not with the Yankees too. You say he can't perform with the Yankees in the postseason; well, if the pressure of the Yankees is so great, why did he perform so well against the Yankees in the 2000 ALCS? In that series, he hit .409 and had a .773 slugging percentage, driving in 5 of the Mariners 18 total runs. They (the Mariners) lost that series, but then again, it's hard to win a postseason series when your teammates hit .189 collectively, and your pitchers have a team ERA of 5.37.

    In the 1997 ALDS against the Orioles, A-Rod hit .312 and had a .562 slugging percentage. Essentially the same story as the 2000 ALDS. The Mariners dropped the series, but I would say the collective batting average of A-Rod's teammates (.205), and the Mariners' team ERA (5.91) had a lot more to do with it than he did.

    So there you go; that's 3 very good postseason series (1997 ALDS, 2000 ALDS, 2004 ALDS), and one that's good but not great (2004 ALCS). To say this guy can't play in the playoffs is just flat out factually wrong. We know it's factually wrong, because he has performed well in the playoffs, as a Yankee, as a non-Yankee playing the Yankees, and as a non-Yankee not playing the Yankees.

    The fact that he had two consecutive postseason series that were very bad tells you very, very little in reality. Derek Jeter, for example, has had 2 consecutive poor series on 2 separate occasions:

    1998 ALDS: .111 .273 .111
    1998 ALCS: .200 .259 .320

    2001 ALCS: .118 .200 .118
    2001 WS: .148 .179 .259

    Plus he's had 2 other bad series, the 2000 ALDS vs Oakland, and (already mentioned) the 2004 ALCS against Boston.

    The 2005 ALDS is when this all really gained momentum, especially game 5, the ninth inning. It was just this perfect image, of the saintly Jeter singling and the false prophet Rodriguez doubling the two of them off, essentially ending the Yankees' season and capping off a terrible series. But why was A-Rod blamed for that loss and not Mike Mussina, who got knocked out in the 3rd inning? I would say getting your starting pitcher knocked out in the third is more damaging than one of your hitters going 0-4. Why not Hideki Matsui, who went 0-5 and had 8 LOB to A-Rod's 3?

    More generally, why is that series blamed on A-Rod? Yes, he performed terribly. But so did a lot of Yankees. In Rodriguez's favor he did have a .381 OBP; he was getting on base that series, even if his BA was only .133. Bernie Williams didn't hit much better, .211, but his OBP was .250, well below A-Rod's. Randy Johnson pitched terribly in 2 games out of that series. Mike Mussina essentially put the Yankees in position to lose game 5.

    Why is it that A-Rod is the one said to cause these failures? Because he's paid the most. But that doesn't make sense. If your pitcher gives up 5 runs in 2.2 innings, he's clearly the one who caused the failure, regardless of who gets paid what. People are confusing the two ideas.

    Which leads me to my next point, which is that to the Yankees, A-Rod's contract really isn't that ridiculous, nor is it preventing the Yankees from going out and getting other players. The "A-Rod is our guy and for the money we're giving him he has to perform for us" argument is one that we non-Yankee fans will tolerate because if we were paying him that much money, he would cripple our team's financial flexibility to the point where we wouldn't have other dependable players. We just don't think about it further than that. But on the Yankees, it's an irrelevant argument. A-Rod is only barely the Yankees' top paid player. 2006 salaries:

    Alex Rodriguez $ 21,680,727
    Derek Jeter $ 20,600,000
    Jason Giambi $ 20,428,571
    Mike Mussina $ 19,000,000
    Randy Johnson $ 15,661,427
    Johnny Damon $ 13,000,000
    Hideki Matsui $ 13,000,000
    Jorge Posada $ 12,000,000
    Gary Sheffield $ 10,756,171
    Mariano Rivera $ 10,500,000

    The Yankees are paying Jason Giambi and Mike Mussina essentially exactly the same amount of money as they are paying Alex Rodriguez. Where were the outcries after Mussina coughed up the season on October 10, 2005? "Mussina's gotta pitch the big games if he's going to earn the money we're paying him! The Yankees don't care about anything but championships!" Nowhere, that's where they were. Why? It's more fun to pretend how smart and perceptive we all are by making wild accusations like "A-Rod is a choker."

    Never let the truth get in the way of a good story, I suppose.

    I agree with everything that you say. I would just like to add this bit about his salary. Texas is paying about 40% of his salary so the Yankees are paying around $14-15 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommybaseball View Post
    Great. But it's April. If you've been a Yankee fan for a while then you know what Reggie said: "They don't pay you in New York for the 162 games during the season, they pay you to win the 11 in October." Reggie heard his share of boos during his tenure with the Yankees, especially from the fans who loved the gritty, pinstripe blooded and psychotic Billy Martin. He turned all those boos into cheers in October of 1977.
    A-Rod could hit 80 homeruns this year, break Hack Wilsons RBI record and bat .410, but if he goes 1-14 in the post season and the Yanks get bounced in the first round again, he'll be the kicking dog. It's unfair, but that's just the way it is in da Bronx. By the same token, he could go oh-for-the playoffs and games 1-6 of the World Series, but if he wins game 7 with a single, he'll be a hero. Ridiculous. I hope he finally realizes just how ridiculous, accepts the absurdity of the situation, laughs it off and relaxes.
    Dave Winfield is in the Hall, but you don't see #31 on "The Wall", and you never will. All he's remembered for here is his one meaningless single in the '81 World Series, and the ridiculous gesture of asking for the ball. Oh yeah, and the seagull he murdered. Nice.
    He's loved in Toronto though.

    Really irks me when people say things like this.
    "After my fourth season I asked for $43,000 and General Manager Ed Barrow told me, 'Young man, do you realize Lou Gehrig, a 16-year-man, is playing for only $44,000?' I said, Mr. Barrow, there is only one answer to that - Mr. Gehrig is terribly underpaid."- Yankees outfielder Joe DiMaggio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wee Willie Keeler View Post
    This post lacks any common sense whatsoever and is completely moronic.

    I`m not even going to explain why.
    Only a complete moron would surmise that his opinion and only those who think like him are the only ones who could be right. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Differing from your opinion does not make the post moronic, but your response certainly makes you sound moronic, especially since you yourself cannot explain yourself. Got it dummy? Deep in Yankeeland? Hmmmmmmm. That may explain everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wee Willie Keeler View Post
    I`m not going to even reply to this post
    But you did, with your typical and usual nothingness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommybaseball View Post
    Only a complete moron would surmise that his opinion and only those who think like him are the only ones who could be right. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Differing from your opinion does not make the post moronic, but your response certainly makes you sound moronic, especially since you yourself cannot explain yourself. Got it dummy? Deep in Yankeeland? Hmmmmmmm. That may explain everything.
    Everyone, let's calm down please. No need at all to call each other names. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so let's all be respectful of each other.

    I understand where Tommybaseball is coming from and I agree to a large degree with his underlying to point. There is a reason why Dave Winfield is called Mr. May, for example. A-Rod could have a monster year, heck he did in 2005, but if he comes up empty in the playoffs and the team is bounced in the first round again, it will all be for nil and just reinforce the idea that A-Rod comes up small on the big stages. I think if that were to happen again, for the third straight year, I'd probably even have to start seriously questioning A-Rod. For the Yankees, the bar is set ridiculously high, and for most, failure to attain that height is a disgrace. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. We Yankee fans are spoiled brats en masse.

    But let's live in the moment for now. A-Rod is off to a great start, he seems to be enjoying himself and he is enjoyable to watch. So let's deal with that and save any criticism for what might happen in the postseason until after it actually does happen. It's just really counterproductive, out of the way, and silly to start criticizing things that haven't happened yet. So let's enjoy. A-Rod is one of the very best baseball talents ever, and we should embrace and enjoy that. Even though we Yankee fans have been blessed by having a number of these great players already, they don't come around that often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleX View Post
    Everyone, let's calm down please. No need at all to call each other names. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so let's all be respectful of each other.

    I understand where Tommybaseball is coming from and I agree to a large degree with his underlying to point. There is a reason why Dave Winfield is called Mr. May, for example. A-Rod could have a monster year, heck he did in 2005, but if he comes up empty in the playoffs and the team is bounced in the first round again, it will all be for nil and just reinforce the idea that A-Rod comes up small on the big stages. I think if that were to happen again, for the third straight year, I'd probably even have to start seriously questioning A-Rod. For the Yankees, the bar is set ridiculously high, and for most, failure to attain that height is a disgrace. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. We Yankee fans are spoiled brats en masse.

    But let's live in the moment for now. A-Rod is off to a great start, he seems to be enjoying himself and he is enjoyable to watch. So let's deal with that and save any criticism for what might happen in the postseason until after it actually does happen. It's just really counterproductive, out of the way, and silly to start criticizing things that haven't happened yet. So let's enjoy. A-Rod is one of the very best baseball talents ever, and we should embrace and enjoy that. Even though we Yankee fans have been blessed by having a number of these great players already, they don't come around that often.
    DX,
    I understand what TB was saying...but still. This "IS" Jeter's team. So why is it that if the Yanks fail to get it done in the playoffs why does it ARod automatically become the scapegoat?

    There is plenty of blames to go around for playoff bounces from 04 where the entire team just stopped hitting and the pitching just ran into a brick wall.
    Then in '05 I would place the blame on Matsui and Sheff for failing to drive in about 16 RISP between the both of them. Then last year only Jeet and Posada played well.

    So I don't get how this is all ARod's fault. Not saying that your saying that...but I don't know where fanboys get the notion that it's ARod's job to take the Yanks to the Promised land? It's just a piece of the puzzle. In '05 he didn't hit well during October, but he was still getting on base....yet it was all his fault according to Lupica and others.

    I just don't get it...and it's incredibly frustrating.
    "After my fourth season I asked for $43,000 and General Manager Ed Barrow told me, 'Young man, do you realize Lou Gehrig, a 16-year-man, is playing for only $44,000?' I said, Mr. Barrow, there is only one answer to that - Mr. Gehrig is terribly underpaid."- Yankees outfielder Joe DiMaggio

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleX View Post
    Everyone, let's calm down please. No need at all to call each other names. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so let's all be respectful of each other.

    I understand where Tommybaseball is coming from and I agree to a large degree with his underlying to point. There is a reason why Dave Winfield is called Mr. May, for example. A-Rod could have a monster year, heck he did in 2005, but if he comes up empty in the playoffs and the team is bounced in the first round again, it will all be for nil and just reinforce the idea that A-Rod comes up small on the big stages. I think if that were to happen again, for the third straight year, I'd probably even have to start seriously questioning A-Rod. For the Yankees, the bar is set ridiculously high, and for most, failure to attain that height is a disgrace. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. We Yankee fans are spoiled brats en masse.

    But let's live in the moment for now. A-Rod is off to a great start, he seems to be enjoying himself and he is enjoyable to watch. So let's deal with that and save any criticism for what might happen in the postseason until after it actually does happen. It's just really counterproductive, out of the way, and silly to start criticizing things that haven't happened yet. So let's enjoy. A-Rod is one of the very best baseball talents ever, and we should embrace and enjoy that. Even though we Yankee fans have been blessed by having a number of these great players already, they don't come around that often.
    Well, thankyou. It's really a drag that in 2007, people need to be reminded that everyone is entitled to an opinion.
    I agree that the media, print and electronic, are ridiculous to a great extent. I remember early on in 1996 when Joe Torre set Michael Kay straight when he told him that "they didn't need any Rona Barretts in their locker room."
    As a Yankee fan, I'm hoping that A-Rod has the "Hollywood ending". It was a great experience watching his moment on Saturday after the Slam.
    We are spoiled. We can't help it. What other baseball franchise can claim anything close to 26 Titles? What other baseball franchise can claim a litany of great players who delivered those Championships throughout the years.
    The Yankees are different. There was a reason that Joe McCarthy made the Yanks wear shirts and ties on the road.
    I heard a story about a Brooklyn Dodger coach who switched over to the Yankees one year during Joe DiMaggio's tenure. A bad call went against the Yankees and the coach started to argue with the umpire. When that didn't go anywhere, he began to toss whatever he could grab from the dugout onto the field. DiMaggio stopped him and told him: "Go out there and pick that stuff up. " The coach was bewildered. "What? That ump robbed us!" DiMaggio told him: "When a call goes against us, we don't throw crap all over the field- we hit homeruns."
    There's a reason the Yankees don't have a mascot- some stupid fish running around the stands or a balloon-headed baseball throwing tee-shirts up into the stands. If you don't get it- you probably never will.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by tommybaseball View Post
    But you did, with your typical and usual nothingness.
    Quote Originally Posted by tommybaseball View Post
    Only a complete moron would surmise that his opinion and only those who think like him are the only ones who could be right. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Differing from your opinion does not make the post moronic, but your response certainly makes you sound moronic, especially since you yourself cannot explain yourself. Got it dummy? Deep in Yankeeland? Hmmmmmmm. That may explain everything.
    You really want me to explain how ridiculous it is to say anything you do is pointless unless you win the world series?

    That means that 97 percent of all teams fail. Ted Williams was acomplete failure

  18. Quote Originally Posted by tommybaseball View Post
    Well, thankyou. It's really a drag that in 2007, people need to be reminded that everyone is entitled to an opinion.
    I agree that the media, print and electronic, are ridiculous to a great extent. I remember early on in 1996 when Joe Torre set Michael Kay straight when he told him that "they didn't need any Rona Barretts in their locker room."
    As a Yankee fan, I'm hoping that A-Rod has the "Hollywood ending". It was a great experience watching his moment on Saturday after the Slam.
    We are spoiled. We can't help it. What other baseball franchise can claim anything close to 26 Titles? What other baseball franchise can claim a litany of great players who delivered those Championships throughout the years.
    The Yankees are different. There was a reason that Joe McCarthy made the Yanks wear shirts and ties on the road.
    I heard a story about a Brooklyn Dodger coach who switched over to the Yankees one year during Joe DiMaggio's tenure. A bad call went against the Yankees and the coach started to argue with the umpire. When that didn't go anywhere, he began to toss whatever he could grab from the dugout onto the field. DiMaggio stopped him and told him: "Go out there and pick that stuff up. " The coach was bewildered. "What? That ump robbed us!" DiMaggio told him: "When a call goes against us, we don't throw crap all over the field- we hit homeruns."
    There's a reason the Yankees don't have a mascot- some stupid fish running around the stands or a balloon-headed baseball throwing tee-shirts up into the stands. If you don't get it- you probably never will.
    Why does that mean that anything but a championship is a failure. If you call them a classy organization how were they with Mantle and Martin what about in the '70's?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by TonyStarks View Post
    DX,
    I understand what TB was saying...but still. This "IS" Jeter's team. So why is it that if the Yanks fail to get it done in the playoffs why does it ARod automatically become the scapegoat?

    There is plenty of blames to go around for playoff bounces from 04 where the entire team just stopped hitting and the pitching just ran into a brick wall.
    Then in '05 I would place the blame on Matsui and Sheff for failing to drive in about 16 RISP between the both of them. Then last year only Jeet and Posada played well.

    So I don't get how this is all ARod's fault. Not saying that your saying that...but I don't know where fanboys get the notion that it's ARod's job to take the Yanks to the Promised land? It's just a piece of the puzzle. In '05 he didn't hit well during October, but he was still getting on base....yet it was all his fault according to Lupica and others.

    I just don't get it...and it's incredibly frustrating.
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleX View Post
    Everyone, let's calm down please. No need at all to call each other names. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, so let's all be respectful of each other.

    I understand where Tommybaseball is coming from and I agree to a large degree with his underlying to point. There is a reason why Dave Winfield is called Mr. May, for example. A-Rod could have a monster year, heck he did in 2005, but if he comes up empty in the playoffs and the team is bounced in the first round again, it will all be for nil and just reinforce the idea that A-Rod comes up small on the big stages. I think if that were to happen again, for the third straight year, I'd probably even have to start seriously questioning A-Rod. For the Yankees, the bar is set ridiculously high, and for most, failure to attain that height is a disgrace. It shouldn't be that way, but it is. We Yankee fans are spoiled brats en masse.

    But let's live in the moment for now. A-Rod is off to a great start, he seems to be enjoying himself and he is enjoyable to watch. So let's deal with that and save any criticism for what might happen in the postseason until after it actually does happen. It's just really counterproductive, out of the way, and silly to start criticizing things that haven't happened yet. So let's enjoy. A-Rod is one of the very best baseball talents ever, and we should embrace and enjoy that. Even though we Yankee fans have been blessed by having a number of these great players already, they don't come around that often.
    That's it I`m done. I just get mad when people say things like that

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    Lets Look @ ARod's Numbers

    Dunno....this maybe merged under the ARod thread....I'm at your mercy DX.

    Sorry about this...but this is a long post.

    So I just saw a Steve Phillips Segment which kinda pissed me off.
    So I was inspired to go look at ARod's non-clutch self and check out his breakdowns.

    Here is what I came up with:






    So I'm posting this in light of seeing a Steve Philips segment on ESPN regarding ARod. I'm going to stay away from bashing Philips because I so dispise the man so much.


    I was looking for a break down of career monthly totals.
    Looking right away...you see the man is pretty consistent down the line...and his favorite month is August. Then in Oct/Sept you see a dip in AVG and some of the numbers look good for anyone else...but they are un-ARod like.

    I checked out Papi's career monthly break downs too.
    I'm going to stay away from HR/RBI because ARod has a slight advantage being he's played more games...so I'm gonna post his OBP, SLG, OPS.

    Papi:
    July: .319 AVG ||| .421 OBP ||| .635 SLG ||| 1.056 OPS
    Aug: .256 AVG ||| .357 OBP ||| .527 SLG ||| .884 OPS
    Sept/Oct: .274 AVG ||| .369 OBP ||| .538 SLG ||| .907 OPS

    ARod:
    July: .304 AVG ||| .377 OBP ||| .562 SLG ||| .939 OPS
    Aug: .321 AVG ||| .395 OBP ||| .629 SLG ||| 1.024 OPS
    Sept/Oct: .278 AVG ||| .369 OBP ||| .526 SLG ||| .895 OPS

    Is there really a difference in the players? They both seem to be neck to neck.


    So I did more research on ARod's NON-Clutchness and tried to compare it to the man ESPN declares as the "Clutch" God.

    ARod vs. Big Papi

    Here is ARod:



    Here is Big Papi:



    There isn't really much difference in both the players.
    Yet one is considered 'clutch' why the other just can't seem to shake this "non-clutch" factor.

    So if you see the 2 Outs/RISP and LIPS you see that both players numbers are very similar.

    ARod:
    2Outs/RISP: .271 AVG ||| .395 OBP ||| .467 SLG ||| .862 OPS
    LIPS: .276 AVG ||| .398 OBP ||| .520 SLG ||| .884 OPS

    Papi:
    2Outs/RIPS: .276 AVG ||| .398 OBP ||| .525 SLG ||| .913 OPS
    LIPS: .270 AVG ||| .356 OBP ||| .557 SLG ||| .913 OPS


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    Let the debate begin.
    "After my fourth season I asked for $43,000 and General Manager Ed Barrow told me, 'Young man, do you realize Lou Gehrig, a 16-year-man, is playing for only $44,000?' I said, Mr. Barrow, there is only one answer to that - Mr. Gehrig is terribly underpaid."- Yankees outfielder Joe DiMaggio

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