Wins & Losses versus Payroll

**clennon** · 05-18-2007, 03:08 PM

An interesting way of presenting the information:

2007
2006
2005

**west coast orange and black** · 05-18-2007, 03:21 PM

yes, an unordinary way of looking at things, clennon. thanx.

**SamtheBravesFan** · 05-18-2007, 03:46 PM

This is a very simple and pretty informative way to look at this, not to mention fun.

Thanks!

**CubNZ** · 05-18-2007, 04:09 PM

It is a different way of presenting the information visually (and a nice use of scripting), but the problem I see lies in ordering the teams instead of presenting the numeric scale. While there is some logic to this on the left (in a league table at the end of the season the order governs who makes the playoffs) the payrolls on the right are not accurately presented. The No.3 payroll would have to increase 65% or $75m to make No.1. To get another $75m drop from No.3 you are down among the bottom dwellers, while No.20 would have to up the payroll 65% to make it up to No.3.

I spent years trying to present data visually and know how tough it is. And I'm certainly happy to see counter arguments from the statistically inclined.

**clennon** · 05-18-2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by CubNZ

It is a different way of presenting the information visually (and a nice use of scripting), but the problem I see lies in ordering the teams instead of presenting the numeric scale. While there is some logic to this on the left (in a league table at the end of the season the order governs who makes the playoffs) the payrolls on the right are not accurately presented. The No.3 payroll would have to increase 65% or $75m to make No.1. To get another $75m drop from No.3 you are down among the bottom dwellers, while No.20 would have to up the payroll 65% to make it up to No.3.

I spent years trying to present data visually and know how tough it is. And I'm certainly happy to see counter arguments from the statistically inclined.

I agree, and a simple fix would be simply to create space between each team that was proportional to the difference between their payrolls. A "to scale" model of the same thing, if you will.

This isn't mine, so I can't do it, but I do agree.