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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMan View Post
    Like I said, "I'm still playing him in RF."
    But what continually fail to understand is that you were assigned to play left field . . . -
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    C: Wally Schang
    1B: George Scott
    2B: ???
    3B: Wade Boggs
    SS: Everett Scott
    LF: Duffy Lewis
    CF: Johnny Damon
    RF: Babe Ruth
    DH: Kevin Youkilis

    SP: Roger Clemens
    SP: Luis Tiant
    SP: Carl Mays
    SP: Derek Lowe
    SP: Sam Jones

    Rv: Sparky Lyle
    CL: Lee Smith
    "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankillaz View Post
    Hey Ken, I'm new on this thread. Just got a question: Is this Beantown against the world or something? I'm all up against bashing the Lakers and the Yankees and the Heat.
    Everyone hates a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankillaz View Post
    C: Wally Schang
    1B: George Scott
    2B: ???
    3B: Wade Boggs
    SS: Everett Scott
    LF: Duffy Lewis
    CF: Johnny Damon
    RF: Babe Ruth
    DH: Kevin Youkilis

    SP: Roger Clemens
    SP: Luis Tiant
    SP: Carl Mays
    SP: Derek Lowe
    SP: Sam Jones

    Rv: Sparky Lyle
    CL: Lee Smith

    Closest to a 2B I can think of off-hand

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    Man, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaysFan_98 View Post
    Everyone hates a winner.
    I agree. I think envy is the motive behind the "hate". -
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    2 days 12 hours 28 minutes until Red Sox @ Yankees!

    Quote Originally Posted by KenFougere View Post
    I agree. I think envy is the motive behind the "hate". -

    And if anybody knows anything about "hating a winner," it's Ken (and Red Sox Nation).

    Personally, I think "the monster" is green with envy.
    Last edited by YankeeMan; 04-08-2014 at 03:33 AM. Reason: Additional gibe added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMan View Post

    And if anybody knows anything about "hating a winner," it's Ken (and Red Sox Nation).

    Personally, I think "the monster" is green with envy.
    This calls for my weekly, 'You (so) Suck' . . . .
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    Baseball History Trivia . . .




    Here's a fascinating bit of history trivia that I bet 'you' never knew...(Interesting read.)

    When baseball greats Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig went on tour in baseball-crazy Japan in 1934, some fans wondered why a third-string catcher named Moe Berg was included.

    1.jpg

    The answer was simple: Berg was a US spy.

    Speaking 15 languages - including Japanese - Moe Berg had two loves: baseball and spying.

    In Tokyo, garbed in a kimono, Berg took flowers to the daughter of an American diplomat being treated in St. Luke's Hospital - the tallest building in the Japanese capital.

    He never delivered the flowers. The ball-player ascended to the hospital roof and filmed key features: the harbor, military installations, railway yards, etc.

    Eight years later, General Jimmy Doolittle studied Berg's films in planning his spectacular raid on Tokyo.

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    Catcher Moe Berg

    Berg's father, Bernard Berg, a pharmacist in Newark, New Jersey, taught his son Hebrew and Yiddish. Moe, against his wishes, began playing baseball on the street at age four.

    His father disapproved and never once watched his son play. In Barringer High School, Moe learned Latin, Greek and French.

    He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Princeton - having added Spanish, Italian, German and Sanskrit to his linguistic quiver.

    During further studies at the Sorbonne, in Paris, and Columbia Law School, he picked up Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Indian, Arabic, Portuguese and Hungarian - 15 languages in all, plus some regional dialects.

    While playing baseball for Princeton University, Moe Berg would describe plays in Latin or Sanskrit.

    During World War II, he was parachuted into Yugoslavia to assess the value to the war effort of the two groups of partisans there. He reported back that Marshall Tito's forces were widely supported by the people and Winston Churchill ordered all-out support for the Yugoslav underground fighter, rather than Mihajlovic's Serbians.

    The parachute jump at age 41 undoubtedly was a challenge. But there was more to come in that same year.

    Berg penetrated German-held Norway, met with members of the underground and located a secret heavy water plant - part of the Nazis' effort to build an atomic bomb.

    His information guided the Royal Air Force in a bombing raid to destroy the plant.

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    The R.A.F. destroys the Norwegian heavy water plant targeted by Moe Berg.
    There still remained the question of how far had the Nazis progressed in the race to build the first Atomic bomb. If the Nazis were successful, they would win the war. Berg (under the code name "Remus") was sent to Switzerland to hear leading German physicist Werner Heisenberg, a Nobel Laureate, lecture and determine if the Nazis were close to building an A-bomb. Moe managed to slip past the SS guards at the auditorium, posing as a Swiss graduate student.

    The spy carried in his pocket a pistol and a cyanide pill.


    If the German indicated the Nazis were close to building a weapon, Berg was to shoot him - and then swallow the cyanide pill.

    Moe, sitting in the front row, determined that the Germans were nowhere near their goal, so he complimented Heisenberg on his speech and walked him back to his hotel.

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    Werner Heisenberg - he blocked the Nazis from acquiring an atomic bomb.
    Moe Berg's report was distributed to Britain's Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, and key figures in the team developing the Atomic Bomb.
    Roosevelt responded: "Give my regards to the catcher."

    Most of Germany's leading physicists had been Jewish and had fled the Nazis, mainly to Britain and the United States.
    After the war, Moe Berg was awarded the Medal of Merit - America's highest honor for a civilian in wartime.
    But Berg refused to accept, as he couldn't tell people about his exploits.

    After his death, his sister accepted the Medal and it hangs in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York.

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    March 2,1902-----May 29, 1972
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMan View Post

    And if anybody knows anything about "hating a winner," it's Ken (and Red Sox Nation).

    Personally, I think "the monster" is green with envy.
    I gotta say, in the last decade, 'Not So Much'! -
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenFougere View Post



    Here's a fascinating bit of history trivia that I bet 'you' never knew...(Interesting read.)

    When baseball greats Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig went on tour in baseball-crazy Japan in 1934, some fans wondered why a third-string catcher named Moe Berg was included.

    1.jpg

    The answer was simple: Berg was a US spy.

    Speaking 15 languages - including Japanese - Moe Berg had two loves: baseball and spying.

    In Tokyo, garbed in a kimono, Berg took flowers to the daughter of an American diplomat being treated in St. Luke's Hospital - the tallest building in the Japanese capital.

    He never delivered the flowers. The ball-player ascended to the hospital roof and filmed key features: the harbor, military installations, railway yards, etc.

    Eight years later, General Jimmy Doolittle studied Berg's films in planning his spectacular raid on Tokyo.

    2.jpg

    Catcher Moe Berg

    Berg's father, Bernard Berg, a pharmacist in Newark, New Jersey, taught his son Hebrew and Yiddish. Moe, against his wishes, began playing baseball on the street at age four.

    His father disapproved and never once watched his son play. In Barringer High School, Moe learned Latin, Greek and French.

    He graduated Magna Cum Laude from Princeton - having added Spanish, Italian, German and Sanskrit to his linguistic quiver.

    During further studies at the Sorbonne, in Paris, and Columbia Law School, he picked up Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Indian, Arabic, Portuguese and Hungarian - 15 languages in all, plus some regional dialects.

    While playing baseball for Princeton University, Moe Berg would describe plays in Latin or Sanskrit.

    During World War II, he was parachuted into Yugoslavia to assess the value to the war effort of the two groups of partisans there. He reported back that Marshall Tito's forces were widely supported by the people and Winston Churchill ordered all-out support for the Yugoslav underground fighter, rather than Mihajlovic's Serbians.

    The parachute jump at age 41 undoubtedly was a challenge. But there was more to come in that same year.

    Berg penetrated German-held Norway, met with members of the underground and located a secret heavy water plant - part of the Nazis' effort to build an atomic bomb.

    His information guided the Royal Air Force in a bombing raid to destroy the plant.

    4.jpg

    The R.A.F. destroys the Norwegian heavy water plant targeted by Moe Berg.
    There still remained the question of how far had the Nazis progressed in the race to build the first Atomic bomb. If the Nazis were successful, they would win the war. Berg (under the code name "Remus") was sent to Switzerland to hear leading German physicist Werner Heisenberg, a Nobel Laureate, lecture and determine if the Nazis were close to building an A-bomb. Moe managed to slip past the SS guards at the auditorium, posing as a Swiss graduate student.

    The spy carried in his pocket a pistol and a cyanide pill.


    If the German indicated the Nazis were close to building a weapon, Berg was to shoot him - and then swallow the cyanide pill.

    Moe, sitting in the front row, determined that the Germans were nowhere near their goal, so he complimented Heisenberg on his speech and walked him back to his hotel.

    5.jpg

    Werner Heisenberg - he blocked the Nazis from acquiring an atomic bomb.
    Moe Berg's report was distributed to Britain's Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, and key figures in the team developing the Atomic Bomb.
    Roosevelt responded: "Give my regards to the catcher."

    Most of Germany's leading physicists had been Jewish and had fled the Nazis, mainly to Britain and the United States.
    After the war, Moe Berg was awarded the Medal of Merit - America's highest honor for a civilian in wartime.
    But Berg refused to accept, as he couldn't tell people about his exploits.

    After his death, his sister accepted the Medal and it hangs in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York.

    6.jpg

    March 2,1902-----May 29, 1972
    Great story. It would be extremely difficult to find an actor who could play Moe Berg in a movie about his life...good catcher, speaking 15 languages, fearless parachuting into enemy territory, and able to leap tall Nazi buildings in a single bound.
    "He's tougher than a railroad sandwich."
    "You'se Got The Eye Of An Eagle."

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    Well, I hope everyone enjoyed their weekend. I sure did! Well, mostly... I think I enjoyed about 75% of my weekend... You know, like three outta' four... [Hiya Ken! ]

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    The season is still young. I am not panicking.
    Man, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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    Thanks, Ken. Over the winter I re-read The Catcher Was A Spy..The Mysterious Life of Moe Berg by Nicholas Dawidoff.

    Quite a story, but I'm not at all convinced there wasn't just a tad of embellishment to the tale. A rival catcher with the white Sox once told him: "I don't care how many of them damn degrees you got, they ain't never learned you to hit the curve."
    Baseball is a ballet without music. Drama without words ~Ernie Harwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMan View Post
    Well, I hope everyone enjoyed their weekend. I sure did! Well, mostly... I think I enjoyed about 75% of my weekend... You know, like three outta' four... [Hiya Ken! ]
    It's nice that a man your, (advanced) age can still find such enjoyment from winning a series in early April of a six month season . . .


    Good for you buddy! -


    BTW, what was that dripping down your pitcher arm & hand? -
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    Quote Originally Posted by trosmok View Post
    Thanks, Ken. Over the winter I re-read The Catcher Was A Spy..The Mysterious Life of Moe Berg by Nicholas Dawidoff.

    Quite a story, but I'm not at all convinced there wasn't just a tad of embellishment to the tale. A rival catcher with the white Sox once told him: "I don't care how many of them damn degrees you got, they ain't never learned you to hit the curve."
    What a coincidence that I would find this piece just after your re-read.

    I think that, "a tad of embellishment" always makes the pages in the book turn a little quicker, don't you? - -
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenFougere View Post
    BTW, what was that dripping down your pitcher arm & hand? -

    I dunno... He said he got the stuff from Buchholz.

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    Question ...and the difference between water and the July sweat on all pitchers arms would be?

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMan View Post

    I dunno... He said he got the stuff from Buchholz.
    You've a problem with water? Really? - -
    Everyone knows that Buchholz touches the back of his wet hair, but there’s nothing wrong with that as long as he wipes it off, which he does . . .

    Got another one for you.

    Remember Lester was touching his fingers inside his glove, (sticky substance), before each pitch during the last *World Series?


    *(Which, in case you forgot, we won.) icon.png
    Last edited by KenFougere; 04-14-2014 at 06:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenFougere View Post
    You've a problem with water? Really? - -
    Everyone knows that Buchholz touches the back of his wet hair, but there’s nothing wrong with that as long as he wipes it off, which he does . . .

    Got another one for you.

    Remember Lester was touching his fingers inside his glove, (sticky substance), before each pitch during the last *World Series?


    *(Which, in case you forgot, we won.) icon.png
    Yeah, the Red Sox' roster is replete with cheaters*. Hey, you could even say Lester was caught "red-handed!"

    [*I have absolutely no proof of this.]

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    Exclamation Another Championship coming to "Titletown" ?

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    Let's see if the Rangers can get past the Flyers (hope so..I so want the Bruins to embarrass them again like last year).
    Man, do I *HATE* the Yankees!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdl View Post
    let's see if the rangers can get past the flyers (hope so..i so want the bruins to embarrass them again like last year).

    Titletown? Seriously.
    Last edited by YankeeMan; 04-17-2014 at 01:47 AM.

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    Cool 9 Championships in 10 years, 90% success rate. I'd call that Titletown . . . .

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    Titletown? Seriously.
    - If the Bruins win another Stanley Cup, That would bring the total to 9 Titles in 10 years: -

    1. BRUINS.png Boston Bruins - 2
    2. CELT.png Boston Celtics - 1
    3. BOSOX.png Boston Red Sox - 3
    4. PATS.png N.E. Partiots - 3


    What city do you think has earned the right more than Boston in the last decade to be called, Titletown?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenFougere View Post
    - If the Bruins win another Stanley Cup, That would bring the total to 9 Titles in 10 years: -

    1. BRUINS.png Boston Bruins - 2
    2. CELT.png Boston Celtics - 1
    3. BOSOX.png Boston Red Sox - 3
    4. PATS.png N.E. Partiots - 3


    What city do you think has earned the right more than Boston in the last decade to be called, Titletown?
    Well, if you're only considering the last decade... But the moniker "Titletown," would, it seems to me, imply that you have the most TITLES period (i.e. overall), which we already know is not true (previous posts in this thread).

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMan View Post
    Well, if you're only considering the last decade... But the moniker "Titletown," would, it seems to me, imply that you have the most TITLES period (i.e. overall), which we already know is not true (previous posts? in this thread).
    Previous posts? -

    I'm sorry, but I don't recall these illegid, "previous posts" that you're referring. -

    Been hoysting a few, huh? - . . . . . . (Maybe some would bring you out of it?)
    Last edited by KenFougere; 04-18-2014 at 12:23 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeMan View Post
    Well, if you're only considering the last decade... But the moniker "Titletown," would, it seems to me, imply that you have the most TITLES period (i.e. overall), which we already know is not true (previous posts in this thread).
    Yes, I definitely say that title currently belongs to BOSTON. No one else is even close!
    Last edited by KenFougere; 04-18-2014 at 12:37 PM.
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