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    Blasphemy!!!!

    PITCHING GURU ADMITS STEROID USE: Former pitcher and noted instructor Tom House said he used steroids during his career and said performance-enhancing drugs were widespread in the 1960s and '70s, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

    House said he and several teammates used amphetamines, human growth hormone and "whatever steroid" they could find to keep up with the competition.

    "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey," House told the Chronicle. "We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses. That was the '60s, when nobody knew. The good thing is, we know now."
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    now lets see......House played for the Braves from '71-'75 and was teammates with what superstar who enjoyed a power surge late in his career while teammates.
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...type=printable

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    Old news. As for the Aaron comment, power surge?
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    Someone please wake me up in a few years when (hopefully) everyone stops talking about steroids. This topic has been beaten to death. When are we going to move on and get over it?

    People cheated. MLB let them. Records are tainted.

    I know.

    ...But I am ready to move on. Baseball has been a great game for 150 years and it has a very bright future. It survived the Black Sox scandal and flourished and it will survive the needle (or cream/clear or whatever).

    Baseball is and will always be our national pastime. Steroid users like Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds cannot and will not destroy Baseball...as much as some posters here seem to want them to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
    Old news. As for the Aaron comment, power surge?
    his career high happened at age 37 and his AB/HR went down later in his career

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    As CCN said old news, furthermore House later backed off his claims. Some of the stuff he claimed to be using was pretty close to being an impossibility at the time of his career.

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    Well, up to this point I only thought that Tom House was clueless about pitching mechanics...

    First of all, here's a quote from http://www.thebody.com/content/art2545.html

    The first version of recombinant human growth hormone (sometimes called rhGH) was made by Genentech of South San Francisco, California, and approved for sale by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in October 1985.

    The first inkling of steroid use in athletes that I remember was the East German women's swimming team in the 1976 Olympics. At that point in time, nobody could figure out why the East Germans seemed to produce such muscular, hairy women with low-pitched voices. Google up the name Kornelia Ender to see what the results looked like back then. Remember, at the time this was a top-secret program done by one of the most secretive Communist countries in the world.

    House's career ran from 1971 to 1978. Nuff said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee Walker View Post
    The first inkling of steroid use in athletes that I remember was the East German women's swimming team in the 1976 Olympics. At that point in time, nobody could figure out why the East Germans seemed to produce such muscular, hairy women with low-pitched voices. Google up the name Kornelia Ender to see what the results looked like back then. Remember, at the time this was a top-secret program done by one of the most secretive Communist countries in the world.
    I read a book about that very program while I was doing a report on the 1976 Winter Olympics. It was fascinating and heart-breaking at the same time how those young girls and women were led to believe that they were being given vitamin injections with all those steroids at the swimming camps the GDR had. It was a huge government rig that valuted East Germany to the top five of the medal standings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee Walker View Post
    Well, up to this point I only thought that Tom House was clueless about pitching mechanics...

    First of all, here's a quote from http://www.thebody.com/content/art2545.html

    The first version of recombinant human growth hormone (sometimes called rhGH) was made by Genentech of South San Francisco, California, and approved for sale by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in October 1985.
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    HgH was around back then it just wasn't man made or I should say created in a lab. There is a very small chance that House did in fact take HgH but I seriously doubt it. I think House and others took things but had no real idea exactly what he took. He then years later said oh sure I took all those things that they are taking now and then when it was pointed that these new drugs were not around back then he quickly backtracked.

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    House is confused. That was tetrahydrozoline he was using back in the 70s, not HGH.
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