Bye Curt

[MLB2k7]

he's leaving after this season.

what a fabulous work he did for the Sox.

kudos to him, and wish him continuous success elsewhere (maybe as an Yank)

[DickZ]

Do you have a reliable source for this news?

[DoubleX]

I think the only way he stays with the Sox is on a one year deal with maybe an option. He could probably get a two year deal elsewhere. Looking at the Sox recent history with guys like Pedro and Damon, my guess is that thet Sox will draw a line in the sand and it will then be up to Schilling whether he wants to stay with the Sox or seek more elsewhere.

[Mike D.]

I think the only way he stays with the Sox is on a one year deal with maybe an option. He could probably get a two year deal elsewhere. Looking at the Sox recent history with guys like Pedro and Damon, my guess is that thet Sox will draw a line in the sand and it will then be up to Schilling whether he wants to stay with the Sox or seek more elsewhere.

I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head. They'd probably be willing to have him back, but they won't pay top dollar go past a year plus an option.

Curt came to Boston in part because he was thinking about his legacy. Whether he stays or not will show if he's still concerned with it.

[Westlake]

Bottom Line: Curt helped us do what he was brought here to do... win a World Series. It will be partly up to him whether we can win 2.

[Mattingly]

Unless Curt Schilling has specifically stated that he would like to leave Boston, I seriously doubt any source stating this. I believe that Boston would make him an offer or at least arbitration. Other than this, no other team can tamper with him.

1 year with an offer seems fine.

Oh, yeah, to the thread starter, please be a little bit more discreet in threads elsewhere encouraging any players to go to the Yanks. Best said in the Yankee forum, not here.

[DoubleX]

Curt came to Boston in part because he was thinking about his legacy. Whether he stays or not will show if he's still concerned with it.

I think his legacy has already received a big boost from playing in Boston. Even though he had some great seasons in Philly and Arizona, and he had some great postseason moments as well, I think coming to Boston was a huge boost for his legacy. The postseason heroics (bloody sock), and just being a memorable character under the media attention of the northeast. I think his experience in Boston has been enough to get him over the Hall of Fame line.

[Mattingly]

I think his legacy has already received a big boost from playing in Boston. Even though he had some great seasons in Philly and Arizona, and he had some great postseason moments as well, I think coming to Boston was a huge boost for his legacy. The postseason heroics (bloody sock), and just being a memorable character under the media attention of the northeast. I think his experience in Boston has been enough to get him over the Hall of Fame line.

Presuming that the only "locks" amongst current starting pitchers would be Clemens, Pedro, Unit and Maddux, who amongst the current starters (or within the past 15 years) would you compare Schilling's career to?

[natsnsoxfan]

I think its safe to say that hes gone after this year with Buck nipping at his heels. There would be 6 pitchers battling for 5 spots, and while we learned in '06 that you can never have to much pitching, neither Schilling nor Buchholz would be relegated to the BP. Schilling's too prideful for that and Buck is either gonna be in the rotation or in AAA, unless Tito decides to send Wake' to the pen, which I doubt.

I'm expecting our opening day rotation to look something like:

1. Josh Beckett
2. Daisuke Matsuzaka
3. Jon Lester
4. Tim Wakefield
5. Clay Buchholz

[DoubleX]

Presuming that the only "locks" amongst current starting pitchers would be Clemens, Pedro, Unit and Maddux, who amongst the current starters (or within the past 15 years) would you compare Schilling's career to?

Glavine's a lock as well. I don't really know who to compare Schilling's career to. In terms of Hall of Fame credentials, I think had Schilling never played in Boston, but performed similarly in the past few years with another team, I'd say he'd also be behind John Smoltz and perhaps Mike Mussina (in addition to the players mentioned above). But, being in Boston has really helped Schilling in terms of the subjective "Fame" aspect of the Hall, and I'd say he's jumped at least Mussina in the line for sure, and a Schilling/Smoltz debate is a very good one.

If Smoltz hadn't closed for a few years, I'd say the two of them would have had very similar careers. Great talent, great postseason pitchers, still effective despite getting up there, but lots of time missed due to injuries in their primes.

[Mattingly]

Glavine's a lock as well. I don't really know who to compare Schilling's career to. In terms of Hall of Fame credentials, I think had Schilling never played in Boston, but performed similarly in the past few years with another team, I'd say he'd also be behind John Smoltz and perhaps Mike Mussina (in addition to the players mentioned above). But, being in Boston has really helped Schilling in terms of the subjective "Fame" aspect of the Hall, and I'd say he's jumped at least Mussina in the line for sure, and a Schilling/Smoltz debate is a very good one.

If Smoltz hadn't closed for a few years, I'd say the two of them would have had very similar careers. Great talent, great postseason pitchers, still effective despite getting up there, but lots of time missed due to injuries in their primes.

How could I have forgotten Glavine, especiall after having celebrated his 300th win in the Mets forum?

I get the impression that Smoltz seems most similar. I don't study endless facts, but RHP, 200+ wins, considered an excellent pitcher, reliable postseason player, long career.

I think that #300 likely cements Glavine, but I'm unsure if he'll go in on the 1st ballot. Then again, I don't study the voting process much, but I think that Schilling may take a few years before he goes in.

BTW, don't worry about Smoltz' starting and closing, since it didn't stop Dennis Eckersley from going in on his first try.

[DoubleX]

I think that #300 likely cements Glavine, but I'm unsure if he'll go in on the 1st ballot. Then again, I don't study the voting process much, but I think that Schilling may take a few years before he goes in.

I think Glavine's 1st ballot status is pretty assured at this point, only way it might not happen is if a number of better qualified/higher profile players are also up for election. That could happen as there are a number of players with strong Hall of Fame credentials that like Glavine, could be in their last year or two (Clemens, Maddux, Johnson, Piazza, Thomas, Biggio, and Bonds, for example).

[Boston Boxer]

he's leaving after this season.

what a fabulous work he did for the Sox.

kudos to him, and wish him continuous success elsewhere (maybe as an Yank)

quit trying to stir up trouble...if you want him, then he is all yours, but you are about 3 years too late on this guy

[MudvilleMike]

I don't appreciate people starting bogus threads like this. While it's likely that he won't be back, we have no way of knowing that at this point. It's still very possible that he'll return (I sure hope so!!!).

[MLB2k7]

Do you have a reliable source for this news?

he already sold his house in Boston.
so, not hard to speculate.

[Boston Boxer]

he already sold his house in Boston.
so, not hard to speculate.

no he did not sell his house...misinformed. Go back to the Yankee board before you are banned

[mikeymussina35]

he already sold his house in Boston.
so, not hard to speculate.

He won't be a Yankee. That is so obvious. Just understand that and stop being so stubborn.

[Jager]

I hope Schilling does sign with the Yankees, since it's very likely that he will break down during the year. It would be one thing if Schilling came into this year, in good shape, and ready to go, but he didn't. He came in overweight, and out of shape, and you just can't do that when you are 40+.

[ChrisLDuncan]

no he did not sell his house...misinformed. Go back to the Yankee board before you are banned

He put it on the market though (http://www.projo.com/redsox/content/...T.35db411.htmlsource )...but your team doesn't nessecairly need Curt. The rotation next season will probably look something like:

Beckett
Matsuzaka
Buchholz
Lester
(Shill? Wake? Tavarez?)

I think the top four starters are all better than Curt.

[Boston Boxer]

He put it on the market though (http://www.projo.com/redsox/content/...T.35db411.htmlsource )...but your team doesn't nessecairly need Curt. The rotation next season will probably look something like:

Beckett
Matsuzaka
Buchholz
Lester
(Shill? Wake? Tavarez?)

I think the top four starters are all better than Curt.

i dont need a link...i know it is on the market...he did not sell his house. Take your little brother MLB2k7 home before he gets in trouble

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

i dont need a link...i know it is on the market...he did not sell his house. Take your little brother MLB2k7 home before he gets in trouble

He's not our little brother. He's a Red Sox fan in disguise

[Boston Boxer]

He's not our little brother. He's a Red Sox fan in disguise

he is a pain in the arse...he stirs up stuff on both boards as far as i can see...maybe he is an Angel fan, gulp

[MudvilleMike]

He put it on the market though (http://www.projo.com/redsox/content/...T.35db411.htmlsource )...but your team doesn't nessecairly need Curt. The rotation next season will probably look something like:

Beckett
Matsuzaka
Buchholz
Lester
(Shill? Wake? Tavarez?)

I think the top four starters are all better than Curt.

Let's not forget that Schilling had the second best ERA+ of all Red Sox starters. He will enter the playoffs as a #2 or #3 starting pitcher on a team that has a possible Cy Young winner.

I think Buchholz is the real deal and should be in the rotation next year, but we could still really use Schilling next year.

[MLB2k7]

He's not our little brother. He's a Red Sox fan in disguise

I'm a fan of baseball, fan of great players like Schilling.

and he'll have a better chance of winning another WS w/ the yanks than any other teams.

[Mattingly]

He's not our little brother. He's a Red Sox fan in disguise

he is a pain in the arse...he stirs up stuff on both boards as far as i can see...maybe he is an Angel fan, gulp

I have no idea which team that MLB2K7 actually roots for, but I've seen heavy doses over the years of Yankee and Red Sox homers. In either case, what's always been consistent about them is that they gloat over their team's success and similarly, abou the other teams' failings. That forumer doesn't seem to fall into either category, and I believe I'd know a homer when I see one ("takes one to know one" kinda thing).

Anyway, I can't provide any details, but the "Mod Squad" here is looking into this. My apologies for the problems created by this forumer, and hopefully, especially if we meet up again for Round IV in the ALCS, we'll know one another as friendly fans of the great game of baseball, ones who happen to root for the opposing team, rather than as unfriendly adversaries rooting for a rival team.