Caribbean Winter Leagues 2007-08

[NewEnglandAmazins]

It's that time of year.....Caribbean Winter Leagues baseball is about to start. This season long thread is here to discuss any topics on Winter Leagues. I'm not an expert on the subject, but I'm willing to share the little I know and learn from any experts on this topic. Click on the flag to access the official league websites.

Caribbean Confederation members and their current Champions:

Puerto Rico- Gigantes de Carolina/Carolina Giants
Mexico- Naranjeros de Hermosillo/ Hermosillo Orange Growers
Dominican Rep.- Águilas Cibaeñas/ Cibao Eagles
Venezuela- Tigres de Aragua/ Aragua Tigers

- Champion: Águilas Cibaeñas/ Cibao Eagles

Others Leagues and their current Champions
Colombia- Indios de Cartagena/ Cartagena Indians (formerly Tigres)
Cuba- Avispas de Santiago de Cuba/ Santiago Wasps
Nicaragua- Indios de Boer/ Boer Indians
Panama- Herrera

MLB link for Caribbean Winter League news:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/winterleagues/?league=car

[geezer]

Well, let's start with my first, and last topic about how the Puerto Rico Baseball League will go on, oh wait the season just got cancelled, there goes my Puerto Rican Baseball League posting here for the season

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Well, let's start with my first, and last topic about how the Puerto Rico Baseball League will go on, oh wait the season just got cancelled, there goes my Puerto Rican Baseball League posting here for the season

I was aware of it too, but it the link was listed just in case any there is any news in the LBPPR.

[geezer]

Nah man, sadly this can go worse.

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Mexico's Pacific league got started a couple of days ago.

OCT 9

HERMOSILLO @ MEXICALI 6-3

OCT 10

NAVOJOA @ OBREGÓN 4-5
GUASAVE @ MOCHIS 3-8
CULIACÁN @ MAZATLÁN 1-3

[Mischa]

Does anyone know of a site that has fielding stats for the Dominican League?

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Does anyone know of a site that has fielding stats for the Dominican League?

Unfortunately the DR website is down. I will check at a later time for you.

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Nicaraguan League (LNBP) starts today and Colombian (LCBP) league started a couple of days ago. The LCBP website is not very informative.

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Here is the logo for the upcoming Caribbean World Series. I'm so happy Santiago has finally got the opportunity to host it.

[geezer]

That's a great logo, sadly, Puerto Rico wont be participating in the upcoming CWS, I hope the Dominican Republic win again the Series by an easy margin, good luck.

[Richard]

Will the Puerto Rican League return?

[Cubano100%]

I do not undesrtand why Puello does not want to invite Nicaragua to replace Puerto Rico for this year. That does not mean he is going to give Nicaragua automatic entry to the series. The AFL currently is hosting big China and the USA team. Who cares? Invite Nicaragua!

[NewEnglandAmazins]

I do not undesrtand why Puello does not want to invite Nicaragua to replace Puerto Rico for this year. That does not mean he is going to give Nicaragua automatic entry to the series. The AFL currently is hosting big China and the USA team. Who cares? Invite Nicaragua!

I agree, but if this were to happen. How would the Colombian league see this?

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Which of these Latin Winter League Teams will sustain their current pace of victories?

(VEN) Caribes de Anzoátegui 19-8
(MEX) Tomateros de Culiacán 22-8
(COL) Cardenales de Montería 10-4

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Alexei Ramirez has signed with the Leones del Escogido

This article is in Spanish:
http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news...bei&type=story

His stats so far:
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats....pbp&pid=493351

[geezer]

In Puerto Rico, they were considering an alternate tournament because of the cancellation of the upcoming season, but still no word.

[NewEnglandAmazins]

In Puerto Rico, they were considering an alternate tournament because of the cancellation of the upcoming season, but still no word.

This past week ESPN Outside the Lines did a report on the cancellation of the LBPPR. It doesn't look like there be any tournament this season. Hopefully the league will be up and running next year.

[PLowry]

This is a fascinating thread, because access to info on these leagues is so limited. Thanks to all the posters for keeping us informed better than our local newspapers do.

My contribution is to share some of my research on longest games in these countries by listing all of the games SO FAR FOUND in these nations which have lasted five hours or more, or 20 innings or more, or the longest game in the nation's history if none have lasted that long.

If you know of any such games or records that I am missing, please share with us on this thread. Thanks again to all the posters.

Phil Lowry
e-mail at plowry1176@aol.com

BY TIME OF GAME

BRAZIL

6:00 – Bom Retiro (Good Place to Rest) Stadium, Sao Paulo – 9/7/1971 – National Championships - Sul-Brasil 6 Presidente Venceslau 5 in 20 innings – 2000 fans - finished at 5 PM.

CUBA

5:07 (five hours and seven minutes) – Parque (Park) Almendares, Havana – 12/8/1957 – Winter League – Marianao Tigers 12 Almendares 9 in 14 innings, 2nd game called after 3 innings.

5:00 – Estadio (Stadium) Latinoamericano, Havana – 5/9/2006 – Cuban League – Sancti Spiritus defeated Industriales of Havana in extra innings.

5:00 – Villa Clara – 2/18/2007 – Cuba League – Industriales 11 Villa Clara 8 in 11 innings.

DOMINICAN

5:40 – Estadio (Stadium) Quisqueya, Santo Domingo - 1/12/1981 – Winter League – Orientales Estrellas (Oriental Stars) 4 Licey Tigres (Tigers) 3 in 22 innings – finished at 3:30 AM in the early morning of 1/13.

6:41 – Estadio (Stadium) Tetelo Vargas, San Pedro de Marcoris - 10/19/2002 – Winter League – Orientales Estrellas (Oriental Stars) 4 Escogido Leones Rojos (Red Lions) 3 in 20 innings – finished at 3:17 AM in the early morning of 10/20.

MEXICO

10:00 – Piedras Negras, State of Coahuila - 7/18/1926 – Amateur - San Luisito 29 Piedras Negras (Black Rock) Internationals 19 in 5 ½ innings – finished at 7:00 PM.

6:22 – Estadio (Stadium) Angel Flores, Culiacan, State of Sinaloa - 10/22/1967 – Mexican Pacific League – Obregon Yaquis 3 Culiacan Tomateros (Tomato Growers) 1 in 21 innings – 5000 fans – finished at 11:22 PM.

5:38 – Parque Deportivo del Seguro Social (Social Security Stadium), Mexico City, Distrito Federal (Federal District) - 7/14/1969 – Mexican League - Reynosa Broncos 5 Mexico City Diablos Rojos (Red Devils) 3 in 22 innings – 3895 fans - finished at 1:08 AM in the early morning of 7/15.

5:45 – Parque Deportivo del Seguro Social (Social Security Stadium), Mexico City, Distrito Federal (Federal District) or Guadalajara - 6/24/1970 – Mexican League - Mexico City Diablos Rojos (Red Devils) 10 Jalisco Charros 9 in 18 innings – finished at 1:15 AM in the early morning of 6/25.

6:23 - Estadio (Stadium) Alberto Hoeffer, Nogales, State of Sonora – 7/29/1973 – Liga (League) Norte de Sonora – Cananea Mineros (Miners) 4 Nogales 2 in 23 innings – 1800 fans – finished at 1:53 AM in the early morning of 7/30.

6:30 – Estadio (Stadium) Cordoba, Cordoba, State of Veracruz – 4/28/1977 – Mexican League – Aguascalientes Rieleros (Railroadmen) 6 Cordoba Cafeteros (Coffee Growers) 2 in 23 innings – 4000 fans, 800 fans at end – finished at 3:00 AM in the early morning of 4/29.

5:20 – Estadio (Stadium) Manuel “Ciclon” Echeverria, Navojoa, State of Baja California - 1/2/1979 – Mexican Pacific League – Navojoa Mayos 1 Mexicali Aguilas (Eagles) 0 in 20 innings in 2nd game; Mexicali vs. Navojoa in 1st game.

6:38 – Estadio (Stadium) Tomaz Oroz, Ciudad Obregon, State of Sonora – 12/30/1984 – Mexican Pacific League – Guaymas Ostioneros (Oyster Growers) 6 Obregon Yaquis 4 in 15 innings – finished at 2:08 AM in the early morning of 12/31.

7:14 – Estadio (Stadium) Emilio Ibarra, Los Mochis, State of Sinaloa - 11/26/1988 – Mexican Pacific League – Los Mochis Caneros (Sugar Cane Growers) 4 Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2 in 21 innings – finished at 2:44 AM in the early morning of 11/27.

5:19 – Estadio (Stadium) Teodoro Mariscal, Mazatlan, State of Sinaloa – 2/3/1989 – Caribbean World Series - Zulia Aguilas (Eagles) (Venezuela) 3 Escogido Leones Rojos (Red Lions) (Dominican) 2 in 16 innings – finished at 5:26 PM.

7:02 – Estadio (Stadium) Teodoro Mariscal, Mazatlan, State of Sinaloa - 10/26/1993 – Mexican Pacific League – Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2 Guasave Algodoneros (Cotton Pickers) 1 in 22 innings – finished at 2:32 AM in the early morning of 10/27.

6:01 – Estadio (Stadium) Angel Flores, Culiacan, State of Sinaloa - 10/27/1995 – Mexican Pacific League – Culiacan Tomateros (Tomato Growers) 3 Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2 in 20 innings – finished at 1:31 AM in the early morning of 10/28.

6:55 – Estadio (Stadium) Teodoro Mariscal, Mazatlan; State of Sinaloa - 10/19/1997 – Mexican Pacific League – Culiacan Tomateros (Tomato Growers) 5 Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2 in 22 innings – finished at 2:25 AM in the early morning of 10/20.

6:25 – Estadio (Stadium) Jimenez, Jimenez, State of Chihuahua - ?/??/2003 – Amateur – Juarez Indios 4 Jimenez Rojos 3 in 17 innings.

6:45 – Estadio (Stadium) Chihuahua, Chihuahua, State of Chihuahua - ?/??/2003 – Amateur – Chihuahua Dorados 8 Delicias Algondoneros (Cotton Pickers) 7 in 17 innings.

5:43 – Estadio (Stadium) Angel Flores, Culiacan, State of Sinaloa - 11/16/2005 – Mexican Pacific League - Culiacan Tomateros (Tomato Growers) 4 Los Mochis Caneros (Sugar Cane Growers) 3 in 5:43 and 14 innings – finished at 1:13 AM in the early morning of 11/17.

6:00 – Estadio (Stadium) 20 de Noviembre (November 20), San Luis Potosi, State of San Luis Potosi - 4/15/2006 – Mexican League – Saltillo Saraperos (Blanket Makers) 7 San Luis Potosi Tuneros (Prickle Pear Growers) 5 in 16 innings – 1758 fans – finished at 1:00 AM in the early morning of 4/16.

5:21 – Estadio (Stadium) Monterrey, Monterrey, State of Monterrey - 6/22/2006 – Mexican League – Laguna Vaqueros (Cowboys) 6 Monterrey Sultanes (Sultanes) 4 in 16 innings, rain delay 2:16 at start – 15,635 fans; only 100 fans at end - finished at 3:53 AM in the early morning of 6/23.

7:55 – Estadio (Stadium) Ojinaga, Ojinaga, State of Chihuahua - 8/13/2006 – Amateur – Madera Venados (Deer) 11 Ojinaga Soles (Suns) 9 in 21 innings – finished at 6:58 PM.

5:19 – Estadio (Stadium) Kulkucan, Merida, State of Yucatan - 8/27/2006 – Mexican League – Monterrey Sultanes (Sultans) 2 Yucatan Leones (Lions) in 14 innings – finished at 1:19 AM in the early morning of 8/28.

6:21 – Estadio (Stadium) Jesus Carranza, Guasave, State of Sinaloa - 11/26/2006 – Mexican Pacific League – Guasave Algodoneros (Cotton Pickers) 9 Mochis Caneros (Sugarcane Pickers) 7 in 16 innings – finished at 11:45 PM.

5:16 – Estadio (Stadium) Angel Flores, Culiacan, State of Sinaloa - 11/26/2006 – Mexican Pacific League - Culiacan Tomateros (Tomato Growers) 4 Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 3 in 17 innings; then Culican 7 Mazatlan 0 in 1:58 and 7 innings.

6:29 – Estadio (Stadium) Torreon, Torreon, State of Coahuila – 7/22/2007 – Mexican League – Potros de Tijuana 8 Vaqueros de Laguna 5 in 16 innings – 4900 fans - finished at 1:29 AM in the early morning of 7/23.

5:02 – Estadio (Stadium) Tomas Oroz Gaytan, Ciudad Obregon, State of Sonora – 11/3/2007 – Mexican Pacific League – Tomateros de Culiacan 5 Yaquis de Obregon 1 in 14 innings – 10,435 fans - finished at 11:06 PM.

5:42 – Casas GEO de la Ciudad Deportiva (also known as Nido Aguilas (Eagles’ Nest)), Mexicali, State of Baja California Norte – 11/3/2007 – Mexican Pacific League – Aguilas de Mexicali 7 Algodoneros de Guasave 6 in 13 innings – 5400 fans - finished at 11:46 PM.

NICARAGUA

6:13 – Managua – late 1940’s – Second Division Amateur League – Manta Nica defeated Schumann in 27 innings. UNKNOWN BALLPARK, FINAL SCORE

6:30 – Estadio (Stadium) Nacional (later Estadio Dennis Martinez), Managua – 7/10/1949 – First Division Amateur League – Navarro Cubs 4 Escuelas Internacionales 3 in 26 innings – finished at 4:30 PM.

PANAMA

4:32 – Novatos or Panalit – 1/13/1964 – Winter League - Novatos 6 Panalit 6 in 16 innings. UNKNOWN CITY AND BALLPARK

PUERTO RICO

6:22 – Estadio (Stadium) Isidoro “Cholo” Garcia, Mayaguez – 12/22/1995 and 12/23/1995 and 1/19/1996 – Winter League - Mayaguez Indios (Indians) 2 San Juan Senadores (Senators) 1 in 21 innings, suspended, suspended a second time.

6:30 – Estadio (Stadium) Roberto Clemente, Carolina – 11/4/2001 – Winter League - Carolina Gigantes (Giants) 2 Caguas Criollos (Natives) 1 in 22 innings – finished at 12:30 AM.

5:05 – Estadio (Stadium) Hiram Bithorn, San Juan - 6/5/2003 – AL at NL - Expos 8 Angels 7 in 14 innings – 10,598 fans.

6:13 – Estadio (Stadium) Roberto Clemente Walker, Carolina – 2/2/2007 – Caribbean Series - Aguilas Cibaenas (Dominican) 4 Aragua Tigres (Tigers) (Venezuela) 3 in 18 innings; then Carolina Giantes (Giants) (Puerto Rico) 11 Hermosillo Naranjeros (Orange Growers) (Mexico) 1 in 3:15 – 2nd game finished at 3:08 AM in the early morning of 2/3.

U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS

5:00 – Paul E. Joseph Stadium, Frederiksted, St. Croix – 7/29/2005 – Caribbean Little League Tournament – Bonaire (Netherlands Antilles) 4 Aruba 2 in 9 innings; then Curacao 5 Dominican 1.

VENEZUELA

6:30 – Estadio (Stadium) del Lago, Maracaibo - 6/5/1938 – Pastora 1 Gavilanes 0 in 20 innings.

BY INNINGS

BAHAMAS

10 innings – Estadio (Stadium) Latinoamericano, Havana, Cuba - 8/??/2006 – Third World University Championships – Czech 9 Bahamas 6. UNKNOWN DATE

BRAZIL

20 – Bom Retiro (Good Place to Rest) Stadium, Sao Paulo – 9/7/1971 – National Championships - Sul-Brasil 6 Presidente Venceslau 5 in 6:00 – 2000 fans - finished at 5 PM.

COLOMBIA

21 – Estadio (Stadium) 11 de Noviembre (November 11th), Cartagena - 1/13/1957 – Winter League – Indios 4 Kola Roman 3, Willard 7 Vanytor 4 in 1st game.

CUBA

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Gran Cerveceria Tropical, Havana – 12/2/1943 – Cuban League – Cienfuegos Elefantes (Elephants) 6 Marianao Frailes Grises (Gray Friars) 5 in 4:25.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Augusto Cesar Sandino, Santa Clara or Estadio (Stadium) Guillermon Moncada, Santiago – 12/28/1965 – Serie Nacional – Centrales vs. Orientales.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Augusto Cesar Sandino, Santa Clara or Camaguey – 1/21/1973 – Serie Nacional – Azucareros (Sugar Workers) vs. Camaguey.

23 – Camaguey – 1/4/1975 – Serie Nacional – Camaguey Granjeros (Grain Workers) vs. Camaguey Ganaderos (Cattle Raisers), suspended.

22 – Pinar del Rio or Santiago – 1/25/1977 – Serie Nacional – Vegueros vs. Santiago Mineros (Miners).

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Augusto Cesar Sandino, Santa Clara or Estadio Guillermon Moncada, Santiago – 3/21/1984 – Serie Selectiva – Las Villas vs. Orientales.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Victoria de Giron, Matanzas or Estadio Latinoamericano, Havana – 11/23/1986 – Serie Nacional – Henequeneros vs. Industriales.

24 – Matanzas or Estadio (Stadium) Nelson Fernandez, San Jose de Las Lajas – 12/8/1993 and 12/9/1993 – Serie Nacional – Matanzas vs. Habana, suspended.

DOMINICAN

22 – Estadio (Stadium) Quisqueya, Santo Domingo - 1/12/1981 – Winter League – Orientales Estrellas (Oriental Stars) 4 Licey Tigres (Tigers) 3 in 5:40 – finished at 3:30 AM in the early morning of 1/13.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Tetelo Vargas, San Pedro de Marcoris - 10/19/2002 – Winter League – Orientales Estrellas (Oriental Stars) 4 Escogido Leones Rojos (Red Lions) 3 in 6:41 – finished at 3:17 AM in the early morning of 10/20.

MEXICO

20 – Empalme or Santa Ana, State of Sonora - 5/18/1947 – Liga (League) de Sonora – Empalme Rieleros (Railroadmen) 2 Santa Ana Santos (Saints) 1 in 4:13 – 854 fans.

27 – Estadio (Stadium) Domingo Santana, Leon, State of Guanajuato – 7/17/1960 – Mexican Center League – Aguascalientes Tigres (Tigers) 5 Leon Diablos Rojos (Red Devils) 4.

21 – Estadio (Stadium) Angel Flores, Culiacan, State of Sinaloa - 10/22/1967 – Mexican Pacific League – Obregon Yaquis 3 Culiacan Tomateros (Tomato Growers) 1 in 6:22 – 5000 fans – finished at 11:22 PM.

22 – Parque Deportivo del Seguro Social (Social Security Stadium), Mexico City, Distrito Federal (Federal District) - 7/14/1969 – Mexican League - Reynosa Broncos 5 Mexico City Diablos Rojos (Red Devils) 3 in 5:38 – 3895 fans - finished at 1:08 AM in the early morning of 7/15.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Torreon, Torreon, State of Coahuila – 5/8/1973 – Mexican League – Cordoba Cafeteros (Coffee Growers) 2 Torreon Mineros (Miners) 1.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Cordoba, Cordoba, State of Veracruz – 5/16/1973 – Mexican League – Cordoba Cafeteros (Coffee Growers) 2 Gomez Palacio 1.

23 – Estadio (Stadium) Alberto Hoeffer, Nogales, State of Sonora – 7/29/1973 – Liga (League) Norte de Sonora – Cananea Mineros (Miners) 4 Nogales Internacionales (Internationals) 2 in 6:23 – 1800 fans – finished at 1:53 AM in the early morning of 7/30.

22 – Estadio (Stadium) Teodoro Mariscal, Mazatlan, State of Sinaloa - 10/26/1973 – Mexican Pacific League – Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2 Guasave Algodoneros (Cotton Pickers) 1 in 7:02 – finished at 2:32 AM in the early morning of 10/27.

23 – Estadio (Stadium) Cordoba, Cordoba, State of Veracruz – 4/28/1977 – Mexican League – Aguascalientes Rieleros (Railroadmen) 6 Cordoba Cafeteros (Coffee Growers) 2 in 6:30 – 4000 fans, 800 fans at end – finished at 3:00 AM in the early morning of 4/29.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Manuel “Ciclon” Echeverria, Navojoa, State of Sonora - 1/2/1979 – Mexican Pacific League – Navojoa Mayos 1 Mexicali Aguilas (Eagles) 0 in 5:20 in 2nd game, Mexicali vs. Navojoa in 1st game.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Jesus Carranza, Guasave, State of Sinaloa - 11/11/1980 – Mexican Pacific League – Mexicali Aguilas (Eagles) 3 Guasave Algodoneros (Cotton Pickers) 1.

21 – Estadio (Stadium) Emilio Ibarra, Los Mochis, State of Sinaloa - 11/26/1988 – Mexican Pacific League – Los Mochis Caneros (Sugar Cane Growers) 4 Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2 in 7:14 – finished at 2:44 AM in the early morning of 11/27.

20 – Estadio (Stadium) Angel Flores, Culiacan, State of Sinaloa - 10/27/1995 – Mexican Pacific League – Culiacan Tomateros (Tomato Growers) 3 Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2 in 6:01 – finished at 1:31 AM in the early morning of 10/28.

22 – Estadio (Stadium) Teodoro Mariscal, Mazatlan, State of Sinaloa - 10/19/1997 – Mexican Pacific League – Culiacan Tomateros (Tomato Growers) 5 Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2 in 6:55 – finished at 2:25 AM in the early morning of 10/20.

23 – Estadio (Stadium) Veracruz, Veracruz, State of Veracruz – 6/30/2001 – Mexican League – Mexico City Diablos Rojos (Red Devils) 2 Veracruz Aguila (Eagle) 1.

20 - Estadio (Stadium) Jesus Caranza Limon, Guasave, State of Sinaloa - 12/9/2004 – Mexican Pacific League - Guasave Algodoneros (Cotton Pickers) 3 Mazatlan Venados (Deer) 2.

21 - Estadio (Stadium) Jose Garcia Mendoza, Ojinaga, State of Chihuahua - 8/13/2006 – Amateur - Madera Venados (Deer) 11 Ojinaga Soles (Suns) 9 in 7:55 – finished at 6:58 PM.

NICARAGUA

27 – Managua – late 1940’s – Second Division Amateur League – Manta Nica defeated Schumann in 6:13.

26 – Estadio (Stadium) Nacional (later Estadio Dennis Martinez), Managua – 7/10/1949 – First Division Amateur League – Navarro Cubs 4 Escuelas Internacionales 3 in 6:30 – finished at 4:30 PM.

20 – Corinto or Leon – 5/17/1981 – First Division – Corinto 5 Leon 4.

23 – Leon or Rivas – 12/18/1983 – First Division – Leon 5 Rivas 4.

PANAMA

16 – Novatos or Panalit – 1/13/1964 – Winter League - Novatos 6 Panalit 6 in 4:32. UNKNOWN BALLPARK, CITY

PUERTO RICO

21 – Estadio (Stadium) Hiram Bithorn, San Juan – 12/26/1975 – Winter League - Santurce Cangrejeros (Crabbers) 5 Bayamon Vaqueros (Cowboys) 2 in 4:00 – finished at 2:00 AM in the early morning of 12/27.

23 – Parque (Park) Yldefonso Sola Morales, Caguas – 1/8/1989 and 1/9/1989 – Winter League - Mayaguez Indios (Indians) 4 Caguas Criollos (Natives) 3, suspended.

25 – Parque (Park) Yldefonso Sola Morales, Caguas – 11/23/1994 and 12/10/1994 – Winter League - Mayaguez Indios (Indians) 4 Caguas Criollos (Natives) 3, suspended after 16 innings.

21 – Estadio (Stadium) Isidoro “Cholo” Garcia, Mayaguez – 12/22/1995 and 12/23/1995 and 1/19/1996 – Winter League - Mayaguez Indios (Indians) 2 San Juan Senadores (Senators) 1 in 6:22, suspended, suspended a second time.

22 – Estadio (Stadium) Roberto Clemente, Carolina – 11/4/2001 – Winter League - Carolina Gigantes (Giants) 2 Caguas Criollos (Natives) 1 in 6:30 – finished at 12:30 AM.

VENEZUELA

20 – Estadio (Stadium) del Lago, Maracaibo - 6/5/1938 – Venezuelan League – Pastora 1 Gavilanes 0 in 6:30.

[NewEnglandAmazins]

• Carlos Zambrano to make LVBP debut on 12/28
• Dominican League deals with yet more inclement weather
• Santiago Wasps get off to a 9-1 start in Cuba
• Culiacan & Navojoa are in last place after finishing first and second respectively in the 1st half
• Nicaraguan All-star game ends in a 3-3 tie

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Grupo A W L
Pinar del Río 8 10
Matanzas 7 11
Metropolitanos 5 13
Isla de a Juventud 5 13

GRUPO B W L
Industriales 12 6
La Habana 11 7
Sancti Spíritus 9 8
Cienfuegos 6 12

GRUPO C W L
Ciego de Ávila 13 5
LasTunas 10 8
Villa Clara 9 8
Camagüey 5 13


GRUPO D W L
Santiago de Cuba 14 4
Granma 11 7
Holguín 10 8
Guantánamo 8 10

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Round Robin stage is all set to start on 12/26:

Usual suspects Licey and Aguilas are both going for their twentieth title
Estrellas (Stars) are looking to end their title drought since 1968, they represent San Pedro de Macoris; the Dominican city that has produced the most MLB players.
Gigantes are the newest franchise and have been impressive in the last few seasons. They are looking for their first League title.

[NewEnglandAmazins]

If the season ended today; here is how the points total would look:

Obregon    13.0
Mazatlan   12.0
Culiacan   11.5  
Navojoa    10.0
Guasave     9.5 
Los Mochis  9.0
Hermosillo  9.0
Mexicali    8.0 

The top six teams advance to the post season. Los Mochis currently have the tie breaker over Hermosillo.

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Round Robin stage is all set to start on 1/2/08

• Barranquilla Caimans
• Monteria Cardinals
• Cartagena Indians

The top two teams advance to a Best of Seven Series.

[NewEnglandAmazins]

Only two remaining play-off spots for the LVBP Round Robin stage. The Caribes, Tigers and Cardinals are in. Here is how the rest of the field looks:

BRAVOS         30 30 .500  7.0
TIBURONES      28 32 .467  9.0
AGUILAS        28 33 .459  9.5
MAGALLANES     27 32 .458  9.5
LEONES         27 33 .450 10.0 

[Unit312J]

I am so mad at my Mexicali Aguilas. I was at the Christmas Day game. They won, but I knew it wouldn't matter. They were just too bad early to overcome it. Now I'm going to have to fly somewhere for the playoffs. Probably Mazatlan again since I have a time share there, but I want to see a new stadium so we'll see.

It looks like I'll finally get a Caribbean World Series in without the Aguilas from Venezuela. They were there in Mazatlan in '05 and this year in Puerto Rico. Looks like some new blood for me this year. With two teams from the Dominican scheduled to play in Santiago, I would not be surprised if I see the Aguilas from that league playing at home and in my 3rd straight SDC. I would rather see Licey and Estralla, but it would be hard to match the excitement of the Aguilas playing at home. Their fans were amazing in Puerto Rico so they'll be even better at home. I just hope Alex Cabrera comes from Venezuela. I got to meet him in Japan when I saw him there. He signed one of his homers in the Mazatlan series for me. Can't wait for some Caribbean World Series!!!!