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    Ebbets Relics - Where are they now?

    Hi,

    I'm new here in the forums, although I have been reading them for quite some time.

    I had a question that never seems to get answered..."What happened to a lot of the auction off Ebbets Field memorabilia?"

    What I know:
    1) I know the lights of Ebbets field were put to use on Downing stadium
    2) The clock was moved to North Carolina to McCormick Field. Although there seems to be some debate about the validity of this.
    3) Cornerstone of Ebbets field foundation at the Hall Of Fame
    4) Flag pole in Brooklyn at some casket company.
    5) Some collector in Denver has a part of the lighting from the Rotunda

    Any other interesting tidbits?

    Thanks!

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    I know some of the bricks were given to former players. pee wee reese had one. battlin bake, the dodger dynamo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseus71 View Post
    Hi,

    I'm new here in the forums, although I have been reading them for quite some time.

    I had a question that never seems to get answered..."What happened to a lot of the auction off Ebbets Field memorabilia?"

    What I know:
    1) I know the lights of Ebbets field were put to use on Downing stadium
    2) The clock was moved to North Carolina to McCormick Field. Although there seems to be some debate about the validity of this.
    3) Cornerstone of Ebbets field foundation at the Hall Of Fame
    4) Flag pole in Brooklyn at some casket company.
    5) Some collector in Denver has a part of the lighting from the Rotunda

    Any other interesting tidbits?

    Thanks!
    One at a time:

    1. Not all of the Ebbets Field lights ended up at Downing Stadium. Vendome Gardens purchased a tier of the lights to illuminate a particularly dangerous alley behind 900 Avenue H in Brooklyn. The residents gradually became accustomed enough to the brightness to sleep through it. Eventually, night punchball was invented.

    2. The Ebbets Field clock currently keeps time in a gym at a community college in Pennsylvania.

    3. The HOF cornerstone is an obvious facsimile of the real one guarded by Jimmy and Jaykay in the Rotunda.

    4. As has been noted before, the real Ebbets Field flagpole stands in front of the Malvern Library in Pennsylvania.

    5. As for the Denver collector who imagines he has parts of the Rotunda, remember that the Colorado air is thin and that Denver brains suffer from a lack of oxygen. The Rotunda remains safely guarded by J and J in a location that for obvious reasons cannot be divulged.

    As for the "tidbits" that Perseus seeks, that word could describe a collection of thimbles, but there was not a widget of Ebbets Field that could be described as a tidbit.
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    I know some of the bricks and seats were given out to players, but I am also curious how much archival stuff the Dodgers actually have inventory. I wasn't even born when the Dodgers left town, but it looked like they left quite a bit.

    I know pieces of the rotunda were sold off, but it always is fascinating to see where things end up being.

    By the way, it's sort of ironic now that Dodger stadium is considered one of the dumpiest places to watch the game. When they need a new stadium they are going to have a major problem with all the lack of land being eaten up by developers.

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    "By the way, it's sort of ironic now that Dodger stadium is considered one of the dumpiest places to watch the game. When they need a new stadium they are going to have a major problem with all the lack of land being eaten up by developers."

    No one considers Dodger Stadium dumpy in any way and if they need a new stadium in the future they'd build it on the existing property...

    Aside, a pox on them and their "home."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseus71 View Post
    1) I know the lights of Ebbets field were put to use on Downing stadium
    Downing Stadium, on Randall's Island, was torn down in 2002. A new facility, Icahn Stadium, was built on the site in 2004, but the Ebbets Field lights were left in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier View Post
    Downing Stadium, on Randall's Island, was torn down in 2002. A new facility, Icahn Stadium, was built on the site in 2004, but the Ebbets Field lights were left in place.
    There was a good New York Times article about Downing and the lights in 2000. It said the original Ebbets fixtures had grown scarce by that time. I guess they`d gotten worn out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donzblock View Post
    One at a time:

    1. Not all of the Ebbets Field lights ended up at Downing Stadium. Vendome Gardens purchased a tier of the lights to illuminate a particularly dangerous alley behind 900 Avenue H in Brooklyn. The residents gradually became accustomed enough to the brightness to sleep through it. Eventually, night punchball was invented.

    2. The Ebbets Field clock currently keeps time in a gym at a community college in Pennsylvania.

    3. The HOF cornerstone is an obvious facsimile of the real one guarded by Jimmy and Jaykay in the Rotunda.

    4. As has been noted before, the real Ebbets Field flagpole stands in front of the Malvern Library in Pennsylvania.

    5. As for the Denver collector who imagines he has parts of the Rotunda, remember that the Colorado air is thin and that Denver brains suffer from a lack of oxygen. The Rotunda remains safely guarded by J and J in a location that for obvious reasons cannot be divulged.

    As for the "tidbits" that Perseus seeks, that word could describe a collection of thimbles, but there was not a widget of Ebbets Field that could be described as a tidbit.
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    Ebbets Relics - Where are they now?

    I beg to differ on my statement about Dodger stadium being a dump. It really is. Where are you from Anaheim? have you been there lately? Do you realize it is Shea Stadium built into the mountain? Do you realize that there is a lot of unpaved(dirt) parking spots around the stadium? It's rather sad and pathetic.

    Anyway, it is said, somewhere, that the Dodgers have a lot of Brooklyn memorabilia archived away and none of it is displayed at the stadium. I would be curious to see what they have in storage. Anybody know anything?

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    We tunneled successfully into their vaults a long time ago and removed all relics of any value. What we took was inventoried by Jaykay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donzblock View Post
    We tunneled successfully into their vaults a long time ago and removed all relics of any value. What we took was inventoried by Jaykay.

    Everything was in place and OK for a long time, Professor. Now, however, I am told that WE need to address the issue of those cobblestones from Bedford Avenue that were stored on the McKeever side of OUR Rotunda......they are falling and blocking the vaults and needed space. WE don't want any of OUR precious relics to be damaged, after all it took to tunnel them to their rightful place here on the east coast?

    Any suggestions?

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    The cobblestones have, of course, accumulated since the demise of Jackie42 effectively prevented him from completing his repaving of Bedford Avenue. My Brooklyn-Dodger-T-Shirt-wearing students have volunteered to move them and complete the job. They are on winter recess for the next 20+ days and have time on their hands. All they ask in payment is recognition on this board. If I knew how, I would publish their picture, but alas I lack the skills to do so. Can our super moderator do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donzblock View Post
    The cobblestones have, of course, accumulated since the demise of Jackie42 effectively prevented him from completing his repaving of Bedford Avenue. My Brooklyn-Dodger-T-Shirt-wearing students have volunteered to move them and complete the job. They are on winter recess for the next 20+ days and have time on their hands. All they ask in payment is recognition on this board. If I knew how, I would publish their picture, but alas I lack the skills to do so. Can our super moderator do it?
    I truly wish I could, Professor, because I think everyone should see the wonderful work you've done with your students, in additon to your day job. WE are so proud of you!

    However, I am sure WE have a few members, here on OUR forum, that can assist you with how to post that photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donzblock View Post
    The cobblestones have, of course, accumulated since the demise of Jackie42 effectively prevented him from completing his repaving of Bedford Avenue. My Brooklyn-Dodger-T-Shirt-wearing students have volunteered to move them and complete the job. They are on winter recess for the next 20+ days and have time on their hands. All they ask in payment is recognition on this board. If I knew how, I would publish their picture, but alas I lack the skills to do so. Can our super moderator do it?
    I didn't know he died, what a shame, the last time I saw him he looked pretty good for a man his age.

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    A seat anyone?

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    found this-- Ebbets Field, I won't advertise the company web site.



    Double seat $4750.00 (plus shipping)

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    thanks Leo. I appreciate it.

    It would be great to see different pictures of archived memorabilia.

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    I remember years ago, the HOF had a pair of Ebbets Field seats planted in the same room that housed Babe Ruth's locker. They were very worn. It was wonderful sitting in them! A pure joy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseus71 View Post
    thanks Leo. I appreciate it.

    It would be great to see different pictures of archived memorabilia.
    Your welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeoD View Post
    I didn't know he died, what a shame, the last time I saw him he looked pretty good for a man his age.
    I doubt if he passed away. There is another Brooklyn Dodgers forum, where a guy with the same name posts. He knows an aweful lot about the Dodgers. He also has a lot of documentation (pics, documents). I think that he is still alive. As a matter of fact, this person posted today.

    Of course it can be someone else, but the way he writes and the way he documents, I think it must be him.

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    Nope, old Jackie42 is gone. I visited his gravesite on the outskirts of Winchester, Virginia. His headstone faces the Blue Ridge Mountains, not too far from the trail of a lonesome pine. On the stone is etched the following:

    Here lies Jackie42
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    Quote Originally Posted by donzblock View Post
    Nope, old Jackie42 is gone. I visited his gravesite on the outskirts of Winchester, Virginia. His headstone faces the Blue Ridge Mountains, not too far from the trail of a lonesome pine. On the stone is etched the following:

    Here lies Jackie42
    (Not to be Confused With LeoD)
    1901-2006
    When Erasmus Thanked Him for Graduating,
    His Reply Was "Your Welcome."
    What a shame another BBF legend gone.

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    Very sad. Sorry to hear that.

    In today's New York Times there is an article about the Ebbets Field Apartments fire and it mentions some rumbling about finally honoring its past. It's a touching article that I can only hope fuels more of a tribute at 55 Sullivan Place. In the article they show a diagram of the field overlayed on the site. Building workers at EFA contradict each other as to where homeplate was in the buildings... What a disgrace! There needs to be a Baseball preservation society formed by Major League Baseball to help insure that places like this have some connection to the past. Robert Moses and Walter O'Malley are both Brooklyn Dodger enemies for eternity, but these Brooklyn politicians haven't done anything substantial to honor their past.

    By the way, I've been told, that O'Malley's grandchildren would get chastised in college on a constant basis about the grandfather's move of the Dodgers to LA.

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    Here is the link to the NY Times story today...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/ny...cf4f4f&ei=5070

    As I said in the other thread about this tragedy, I couldn't help but think, when I first read this story, that if OUR Ebbets Field was still standing, as it should be, whether as a ballpark, or a preserved landmark, Lt. Martinson would still be with us.

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