The supposed new look of probable 'new fenway'
anything on the latest stuff about it
got more pics???
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The supposed new look of probable 'new fenway'
anything on the latest stuff about it
got more pics???
i believe in the cubs
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That was from a few years back... Around 2000, I believe.
They decided to make improvements to the current Fenway instead.
You can find more pictures of those scrapped plans here:
http://www.stadiumpage.com/stpages/Newfen.html
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$$$$$$$$$$$ prevents the team from moving out of Fenway...nearly impossible to get the necessary amount of land to build a new stadium in Boston, so they have to stay in Fenway for a while.
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Like it or not, there will eventally a new Red Sox Stadium! I am not saying it's going to happen any time soon. But it will, there is only so much they can do to that old park before they are just going have to have a new park. I never thought that there would be a New Yankee stadium but there is one being built right now! I know Redsox Nation might try and find me a string me up for saying this but it is true! No matter how much improvements and stuff they add to the place eventually, the place is going to have to be replaced. There is just so much you can do to a structure.
I have to say the design that they came up with, is alot better and is more respectful to the past than the New Yankee Stadium. That design looks like fenway but modernized, almost like a replica of fenway with modern comforts. I wish they did that with the New Yankee stadium make it look like the Stadium of Mantle and Ruth almost exactlly but have better emenaties like bathrooms, food stands, and concoures! Why couldn't they do that? When they finally say good bye to Fenway the should try something like that instead of a cheap ripoff retro stadiums that they do now!
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I.M.V.H.O., when they finally do have to built a new stadium for the Red Sox, I don't think they should try to mimic the design of Fenway like that. Build a nice new stadium that's the quality and caliber of a PNC Park or Safeco, but don't try to duplicate Fenway. They will just have to let it go and not obsess about that. Embrace change.
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We are talking about boston! If there new park dosen't have a big green wall they will burn down half the city!Originally Posted by Seattle1
I.M.V.H.O., when they finally do have to built a new stadium for the Red Sox, I don't think they should try to mimic the design of Fenway like that. Build a nice new stadium that's the quality and caliber of a PNC Park or Safeco, but don't try to duplicate Fenway. They will just have to let it go and not obsess about that. Embrace change.
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to that conclusion...Given that it's built on an old marshy area they can only add so much weight onto the existing foundation before it simply can't hold any more. That means they have to expand outwards to the street and there's no way they can expand outwards without pissing off the night club owners on Landsdown Street
I have a feeling that within the decade they will revisit the plans for a new stadium, they simply will have no choice. The only place left in the city that it can go is up at Suffolk Downs on the Revere/Boston line...It has enough open space, a huge parking lot, nearby highway access, and a preexisting train station so it would be the best possible choice for a stadium.
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They wouldn't be able to build where they were originally thinking of building the new Fenway, right next door?
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No, wouldn't want to anger Jillian's!!!It will be a big problem when it finally has to happen, there will be no question it will have to stay right in Boston. there will be a hugh uproar if it is moved to far away from the heart of Boston!
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Them and and the others would have a huge impact on the city as they provide the city and state with lots of revenues and taxes, they would have a major voice in any expansion plans...No, wouldn't want to anger Jillian's!!!
"In Boston" will be relative, if the entrance is "in Boston" but the bulk of the stadium in another city/town it should suffice(Suffolk Downs would be like that, 50/50 in Revere but same county...)It will be a big problem when it finally has to happen, there will be no question it will have to stay right in Boston. there will be a hugh uproar if it is moved to far away from the heart of Boston!
I doubt they would move outside the city with the lack of available real estate large enough to house a 40-50,000 seat stadium plus parking lots and near a highway...
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While I'm plenty happy that Fenway's here for the near future, It's a shame that the new park couldn't have been between the lower/upper decks and the Viaduct in cambridge, across from the Galleria and the Fleet Center. It has plenty of T access, is downtown without causing more of a headache, has 93 literally next to it, and it's currently razed because of Big Dig construction. I'm glad they're putting in a TND development, but it's a massive tract of land.
I would hate a new park up by Suffolk Downs or down by the waterfront. Similarly, I would not want the New Fenway design that the old ownership group wanted, since it's way too derivative. Give me a new park with the monster (in RIGHT field) and I'll be happy. As long as it's not designed by HOK.
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That area is already slated for redevelopement by railroad compnay into a major residential complex and a new Green Line station/yard complex...plus it's adjacent to the MBTA's main commuter rail yard and the only major access is from the residential neighborhood of East Cambridge and you would have to deal with both the city of Cambridge over impact on the neighborhoodand the state over some of the land which would probably put the park well beyond being a possible alternative.
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I agree completely. Sooner or later, Fenway will be gone. As to Yankee Stadium, its tragic what they are building. It should have gone totally retro like you say, and look inside like the stadium of Mantle's day, or if not, make it just look old and neat like the new stadium they are building for the Mets. The new Yankee Stadium design is a cop-out, and the Mets stadium is going to be way neater, which really upsets me.
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why does everyone think that we need to just remake old stadiums?
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I know, how exactly are they gonna re-build the original 1923 Yankee Stadium? Honestly, that would be really hard, especially with the current ticket prices. Who would pay $85 to sit in front of a pole that's gonna block their view?
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Not rebuild the stadium exactly, but make a better design that refects the past better than the one they came up with, theey could have been more creative with the design to make it look more like the old stadium inside and out. Still have the modern improvements, When they came out and said the New stadium would look more like the pre 70's stadium I was thrilled. I was dissoppointed with the new design, I am still excited to see the new stadium but I thought it was going to better than it is. Of course I don't want 1920's bathrooms and blocked veiws. But they could have designed the stadium with a style that refected the past better. After saying that I do like the design of the new Yankee Stadium I wished it was designed better but I still think it will look good when it's all done.
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I agree, I'm some one who can't wait for the new stadium and likes it's design, but wish it was a little better. But we don't live in a perfect world, if we did they would've got the 70's renovation right.
As for Fenway being replaced, it'll happen eventually. But the problem with Boston is they have very limited options. I'm pretty sure the team doesn't move outside of the city, and finding a spot for the new place inside the city is difficult. The fans also don't want to lose that intimate Fenway feel with a new huge stadium. So they have to design a ballpark that maintains the intimacy, but gives them the added seats. Also the field, everything about the Fenway field has to be replicated inside a new ballpark.
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They need to find a way to build a new stadium with a view of Boston Harbor. A stadium on the water in Boston would be amazing. If San Francisco can pull it off, it can be done in Boston someday. Just not anytime soon.
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Looking at the diagram of the proposed location of "New Fenway", it seems that there would need to be some massive alterations to the surrounding area. Just look at these two photos to see what I mean. It looks like Yawkey Way (or at least oart of it) would cease to exist.
Proposed "New Fenway" site:
Newfen5.jpg
Current Site of Fenway and its environs:
fenway.jpg
I know that this idea has been kiboshed, but was there ever any estimate as to the cost of construction for this stadium? The cost of the demolition of the existing buildings alone would seemingly make it unfeasible.
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Actually it isn't too bad, it's about as cold at Fenway as it is on the waterfront.
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Around $550 Million for that ballpark, probably not counting demolition, land acquisition, legal fights, environmental impacts etc...the costs will probably go up 10-15% in the meantime from proposal to final construction so that puts the price tag up well over $600 million maybe up to $700 Million
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Current Site of Fenway and its environs:
fenway.jpg
quick shoutout to BU South campus brownstones in the top left hand corner of the pic on beacon. some friends of mine lived there...great place to listen to jimmy buffet
also i once lived about a block from the top left of the pic. it was very very very cool to live that close to fenway park. great atmosphere on game days
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