All Time Draft Round Two DRAFT PAGE.

[brett]

Kevin Brown '96-'00.

I think the best pitcher left, or one of two.

162 ERA+ is 8th best for 5 years in 1900s+ and over 240 innings per season in the late 90s is a true workhorse.

ElHalo, you can have the "other" pitcher if you want him.

[brett]

I noticed that Minstrel took Piazza who is already taken. I consider Brown off limits, as well as anyone who goes in the interum. Otherwise people could post an invalid pick and use it to get a look at the top choices of the next guys and really screw stuff up.

And no offense, but its not my job to make sure your picks have not already been drafted.

[ElHalo]

Rod Carew, 1973-1977.

[ElHalo]

Kevin Brown '96-'00.

I think the best pitcher left, or one of two.

162 ERA+ is 8th best for 5 years in 1900s+ and over 240 innings per season in the late 90s is a true workhorse.

ElHalo, you can have the "other" pitcher if you want him.

I agree that Brown was the best pitcher left; I'd have probably taken him over the other guy you're thinking of. His peak was overlooked, but extraordinary. There's a lot of guys who've already been taken who I think I would have preferred Brown to.

However, my total lack of position players was beginning to concern me. 2B was the one position where I didn't have any real solid contingency plans if my guy was taken, so I figured I should get that one out of the way.

[brett]

I agree that Brown was the best pitcher left; I'd have probably taken him over the other guy you're thinking of. His peak was overlooked, but extraordinary. There's a lot of guys who've already been taken who I think I would have preferred Brown to.

However, my total lack of position players was beginning to concern me. 2B was the one position where I didn't have any real solid contingency plans if my guy was taken, so I figured I should get that one out of the way.

For Carew:
Its a great 5 year peak-I think better than another second baseman who I thought you had high on your list. Would you draft Carew above the other guy in the real (hypothetical) world?

[ElHalo]

For Carew:
Its a great 5 year peak-I think better than another second baseman who I thought you had high on your list. Would you draft Carew above the other guy in the real (hypothetical) world?

No, not in a million years. That other guy was much better at all aspects of the game than Carew, in my opinion (except baserunning). But the five year peak rule makes things go a bit differently from a real (hypothetical) world. In this world, there's at least one position (and possibly two) where I believe the number one player at the position still hasn't been taken. And I never would have taken Ed Walsh so early.

[brett]

In this world, there's at least one position (and possibly two) where I believe the number one player at the position still hasn't been taken. And I never would have taken Ed Walsh so early.

Which world?

[ElHalo]

Which world?

The five-year world. It's a very different animal. That other guy I didn't take ahead of Carew I consider to be one of the top 25 or 30 players of all time, but I had to pass because he didn't have a five years stretch that stood out quite as much. Similarly, there's some absolutely astounding five year guys who don't quite rate as high on people's radars...

[Westlake]

It's sad that we all know each other's opinions so well that most of us probably know exactly who you two are talking about. I know I sure do. One of the most underrated players ever, IMO.

I still have to sweat out 5 or 6 people picking in front of me hoping they dont take my guy.

[philkid3]

I'm here and I'm putting some thought in it.

[Erik Bedard]

I select:



Mike Piazza (1993 - 1997)

Exact same picture and years, too.

[philkid3]

Ronald Edward Santo (1963-67)

[Erik Bedard]

Four-letter word. I really was hoping nobody would take him. Had the picture all picked out and everything.

[brett]

Four-letter word. I really was hoping nobody would take him. Had the picture all picked out and everything.

Eric check your PM

[ElHalo]

Ronald Edward Santo (1963-67)

Wow. Never seen a picture of him before, and really didn't think he looked like that. I was picturing more... Dick Allen-like, maybe?

[Erik Bedard]

Carl Hubbell, 1932-36.

[brett]

Carl Hubbell, 1932-36.

Great pick. I think the consensus next pitcher. Not the guy I wanted to take (but I have two pitchers already)

[Wade8813]

AF is skipped again, so it's DMF's turn, correct?

[brett]

Since Astrofan missed last round, DMF is up and on the clock.

DMF if you are out there, I'll give you my 5th (#7 from EB) and 7th round (#10) for your 4th and 28th.

[ElHalo]

Carl Hubbell, 1932-36.

Yeah, best guy on the board. And a lefty, too!

I was kind of hoping (while knowing it was foolish, of course) that he'd fall back to me, so I could have two specialty pitchers (spitter and screwball) to go along with my aces, really throw off opposing teams. Maybe I'll take a knuckleballer for my fifth starter.

[brett]

I just want to state that I did not give EB a tip about Hubbell. I offered him a trade. Someone mentioned Hubbell so I want to assure them that I did not tip anyone off.

[Erik Bedard]

I can verify that.

[Wade8813]

DMF if you are out there, I'll give you my 5th (#7 from EB) and 7th round (#10) for your 4th and 28th.

Umm... isn't this draft only 25 rounds? How would he give you his 28th pick?

[brett]

Umm... isn't this draft only 25 rounds? How would he give you his 28th pick?

I thought it was 30 round. In that case

I am offering DMF, my round 5 #7 and my round 7 #10 for his round 4 #9 and his round 25 #5 (or any spot lower he can acquire by round 25.)

Or astrofan or minstrel can make similar deal if I get the pick in time to make my choice.

[Wade8813]

I'm 95% sure it's 25 rounds. DMF will be on soon, and I believe he'll do the deal.