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    Quote Originally Posted by BSmile View Post
    One thing I did notice but hadn't mentioned is that based on the signs, it appears the photo was taken in Boston (or Massachusetts in any case)
    Any other thoughts?
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    I think this photo was taken between May 13-16, 1910 at South End Grounds III in Boston home of the Boston Doves. The Cubs played a 4 game series and wouldn't return until July.

    Not too many good close up photos of the signs at South End Grounds III.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dto7 View Post
    I think this photo was taken between May 13-16, 1910 at South End Grounds III in Boston home of the Boston Doves. The Cubs played a 4 game series and wouldn't return until July.
    Sounds quite plausible...


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    Quote Originally Posted by BSmile View Post
    Sounds quite plausible...
    Much thanks to BSmile for finding and posting this wonderful panoramic, which I think is one of the finest from the DeadBall Era that we have in the collection. And thanks to Dto7 for his help with the identifications and in determining the year of the photo.

    It does appear to be the 1910 pennant-winning team.

    1910 Cubs

    L-R: Joe Tinker (SS), Lew Richie (P), Harry Steinfeldt (3B), Jimmy Archer (UT), Johnny Evers (2B), Tom Needham (C), Heine Zimmerman (UT), Jack Pfiester (P), Rube Kroh (P), Ed Reulbach (P), Harry McIntire (P), Orval Overall (P), Frank Chance (Mgr/1B), King Cole (P), Solly Hofman (CF), Johnny Kling (C), Frank "Wild Fire" Schulte (RF), Jimmy Sheckard (LF), Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown (P), Fred Luderus (1B), Ginger Beaumont (OF), John Kane (OF).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    Much thanks to BSmile for finding and posting this wonderful panoramic, which I think is one of the finest from the DeadBall Era that we have in the collection. And thanks to Dto7 for his help with the identifications and in determining the year of the photo.

    It does appear to be the 1910 pennant-winning team.

    1910 Cubs

    L-R: Joe Tinker (SS), Lew Richie (P), Harry Steinfeldt (3B), Jimmy Archer (UT), Johnny Evers (2B), Tom Needham (C), Heine Zimmerman (UT), Jack Pfiester (P), Rube Kroh (P), Ed Reulbach (P), Harry McIntire (P), Orval Overall (P), Frank Chance (Mgr/1B), King Cole (P), Solly Hoffman (CF), Johnny Kling (C), Frank "Wild Fire" Schulte (RF), Jimmy Sheckard (LF), Mordecai "Three-Finger" Brown (P), Fred Luderus (1B), Ginger Beaumont (OF), John Kane (OF).
    So I found some more evidence that points to 1910. In the famous panoramic poster, "A Yard Of The National Game", the Cubs teams of 1906-07-08 are celebrated (along with the ballpark) and there's an edited version of that same 1910 Cubs panoramic on the bottom. The poster is clearly marked: "COPYRIGHT 1910 E.T. JOHNSON & CO." Further over it reads: "ISSUED BY E.T. JOHNSON & CO., PUBLISHERS OFFICIAL SCORE CARD CHICAGO LEAGUE BALL CLUB, 1456 WEST HARRISON STREET, CHICAGO."

    My guess is that the poster was issued in 1910 to celebrate not only the '06-07-08 teams, but the new league champs of 1910 as well (albeit prior to the 1910 World Series). For many years now, that poster has been attributed to what I now feel is the wrong year, 1908.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSmile View Post
    So I found some more evidence that points to 1910. In the famous panoramic poster, "A Yard Of The National Game", the Cubs teams of 1906-07-08 are celebrated (along with the ballpark) and there's an edited version of that same 1910 Cubs panoramic on the bottom. The poster is clearly marked: "COPYRIGHT 1910 E.T. JOHNSON & CO." Further over it reads: "ISSUED BY E.T. JOHNSON & CO., PUBLISHERS OFFICIAL SCORE CARD CHICAGO LEAGUE BALL CLUB, 1456 WEST HARRISON STREET, CHICAGO."

    My guess is that the poster was issued in 1910 to celebrate not only the '06-07-08 teams, but the new league champs of 1910 as well (albeit prior to the 1910 World Series). For many years now, that poster has been attributed to what I now feel is the wrong year, 1908.
    BTW, the right side of that poster shows the team lined up wearing suits, holding their hats. The top right corner of the image looks like it says "FILE PHOTO CO BOSTON". It's very hard to read because of the poor resolution.
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    The photo was also used in 1910 Cubs World Series program..

    1910 Chicago Cubs World Series game 5 program

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dto7 View Post
    The photo was also used in 1910 Cubs World Series program..

    1910 Chicago Cubs World Series game 5 program
    Well there ya go, there's no doubt...it's the 1910 Chicago Cubs Team. I'll change my original posting.

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    Why isn't the 1910 Cubs shown in full size? My heart jumped when I thought we might be down-sized again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Burgess View Post
    Why isn't the 1910 Cubs shown in full size? My heart jumped when I thought we might be down-sized again.
    The original post is...but when I re-posted it I used the "insert image" code from BBF, which still downsizes the images for some reason.

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    1882 Providence Grays Team
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    1888 Cincinnati Red Stockings Team
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    1888 Cincinnati Red Stockings; 80-54, .597, 4th Place, 11.5 g behind,---BB-Reference

    Top Row, standing, L-R: Pop Corkhill (CF), George Tebeau (LF), Bill Hart (P), Bid McPhee (2B), Billy Serad (P), Heinie Kappel (SS/2B).

    Middle Row, L-R: Tony Mullane (P), John Reilly (1B), Gus Schmelz (Mgr.), Aaron Stern (President), Louis Hauck (Secretary), Jim Keenan (C), Lee Viau (P).

    Bottom Row, L-R: Mike Smith (P), Frank Fennelly (SS), Hugh Nicol (RF), Kid Baldwin (C).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSmile View Post
    1888 Cincinnati Red Stockings Team
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    1888 Cincinnati Red Stockings; 80-54, .597, 4th Place, 11.5 g behind,---BB-Reference

    Top Row, standing, L-R: Pop Corkhill (CF), George Tebeau (LF), Bill Hart (P), Bid McPhee (2B), Billy Serad (P), Heinie Kappel (SS/2B).

    Middle Row, L-R: Tony Mullane (P), John Reilly (1B), Gus Schmelz (Mgr.), Aaron Stern (President), Louis Hauck (Secretary), Jim Keenan (C), Lee Viau (P).

    Bottom Row, L-R: Mike Smith (P), Frank Fennelly (SS), Hugh Nicol (RF), Kid Baldwin (C).
    Wow!...That's a real beauty...a great addition to our American Association collection!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryL View Post
    That's a real beauty...a great addition to our American Association collection!
    It really is. It goes to show how much scope and grandeur we missed for almost a year having our amazing collection down-sized. The glory and the Majesty is back in the house. Glory Be and Hallelujah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Burgess View Post
    It really is. It goes to show how much scope and grandeur we missed for almost a year having our amazing collection down-sized. The glory and the Majesty is back in the house. Glory Be and Hallelujah!
    Indeed!
    Finding a great picture is one thing...editing it and presenting it here is another.
    ENJOY!

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    1922 New York Giants Team
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    Here's a new, larger edit of the '22 Giants in a slightly different pose. The original posting can be found here: 1922 Giants (11/22/2010). There just aren't enough hours in the day to remove all the scratches from the original print, but I did manage to remove quite a few. Cheers! ~B

    1922 New York Giants; 93-61, .604, 7 g ahead, (WS: W 4-0-1 over Yankees)---BB-Ref---(photo taken September 26, 1922; Polo Grounds, NY)

    Top Row: L-R: Mahlon Higbee (OF), Ralph Shinners (OF), Claude Jonnard (RP), George Kelley (1B) Jack Scott (P).

    Second from Top; L-F: Emil 'Irish' Meusel (LF), Fred Johnson (P), Freddie McGuire (2B), Wilfred 'Rosy' Ryan (P), Carmen Hill (P), Jesse Barnes (P), Virgil Barnes (RP), Dave Robertson (OF), Frank Snyder (C).

    Seated: L-R: Royce 'Ross' Youngs (RF), Art Nehf (P), Charles 'Casey' Stengel (CF), Hughie Jennings (coach), John McGraw (Mgr.), Albert 'Cozy' Dolan (reserves), Alex Gaston (C), Earl Smith (C), Frankie Frisch (2B).

    Bottom Row: L-R: Hugh McQuilllan (P), Walter 'Waddy' MacPhee (3B), Dave Bancroft (SS), Clint Blume (P), Bill Cunningham (OF), Henry 'Heinie' Groh (3B), Lee King (1B), Johnny Rawlings (2B).
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    1924 New York Giants Team
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    Fresh off my editing table, here's an all-new & very large version of the '24 Giants. John McGraw is absent (looks like Hughie Jennings was on managing duty that day). However, notorious owner Charles Stoneham showed up for the picture. I wouldn't be surprised if a version of him made an appearance in the upcoming 3rd season of Boardwalk Empire on HBO. Cheers! ~B
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    1935 Bismarck Churchills Team
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    Here's a really clean edit I just finished of the great '35 Churchills, a team that Satchel Paige considered one of the best he ever played for.
    From Wiki: "The Bismarck Churchills were an integrated semi-professional baseball team based in Bismarck, North Dakota in the 1930s. Led by Satchel Paige, Moose Johnson, and Double Duty Radcliffe, the club won the 1935 national semi-pro baseball tournament in Wichita, Kansas. The Churchills played independently of any league because their mixed race roster was a problem in a period of segregation, and because there were no formal leagues at the semi-professional level in North Dakota in the 1930s. The team was owned by Neil Churchill, a local car dealer who owned the city's Chrysler dealership, and regularly played against Valley City, Jamestown, and other teams across North Dakota and Manitoba. Although the club is recalled as the "Churchills" today, the team was not formally named in the 1930s, as North Dakota newspapers such as the Bismarck Tribune simply referred to the club as the "Bismarcks" in 1935. The team was also referred to as the "Giants" (written on old team photo)."

    1935 Bismark Churchhills;

    Top Row, L-R: Hilton Smith (P), Red Haley, Barney Morris (P), Satchel Paige (P), Moose Johnson, Quincy Trouppe (C), Double-Duty Radcliffe (P/C).

    Bottom Row, L-R: Desiderato, Leary, Neil Churchill (owner/Mgr.), Oberholzer, Hendee.
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    Ray L. Doan's All Star Faculty Baseball School
    Hot Springs, Arkansas, Feb 15th to Mch 15th, 1933
    There's a few instructors in the front row who might know a thing or two about playing the game...like Rogers Hornsby, Grover Cleveland "Old Pete" Alexander & George Sisler. Interesting how the photographer used "Mch" as an abbreviation for March, I've never seen that before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSmile View Post
    Ray L. Doan's All Star Faculty Baseball School
    Hot Springs, Arkansas, Feb 15th to Mch 15th, 1933
    There's a few instructors in the front row who might know a thing or two about playing the game...like Rogers Hornsby, Grover Cleveland "Old Pete" Alexander & George Sisler. Interesting how the photographer used "Mch" as an abbreviation for March, I've never seen that before.
    Neat picture...I'm pretty sure the "Mann" is Les Mann, who was a teammate of Hornsby in St. Louis, among many other teams he was on, including the 1918 pennant-winning Cubs. Not sure who the "Ryan" is. Looking at his socks, he apears to have on the same uniform as Hornsby, but I don't see any Ryans on the St. Louis rosters from that era. Could possiby be Rosy Ryan, who ended his career with Brooklyn in 1933, but not sure.
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    1939 Chicago Cubs Team & Wrigley Field Panoramic
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    1923-24 Leopardos de Santa Clara Team
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    Here's a great pic that I recently found at auction and did some editing on. So much talent on this team, click on the link above to read all about it.
    "For 1923/24, the Leopardos loaded up with American Negro league talent. Linares and Molina brought back pitchers Holland, Brown, and Pedroso and added Americans Rube Currie and Merven Ryan, as well as Cuban legend José Méndez, and Pedro Dibut, who had just been signed by the Cincinnati Reds. In the infield, first basemen Oscar Johnson and Eddie Douglass and shortstop Dobie Moore joined the returning second baseman, Warfield, and third baseman, Marcelle. The regular outfielders, Charleston, Oms, and Mesa, were the same as in the previous season, and Esteban Montalvo was the backup outfielder."

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    1906 Pittsburgh Pirates Team Portrait
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    Here's a brand-new, very large edit of the '06 Pirates team. I spent quite a bit of time tweaking it, so I hope you guys enjoy it! It is currently residing as my desktop background (I have a 23" widescreen monitor). I have to wonder though: Is it the 1906 Pirates or not? My sources lead me to say it is, but I know how tricky it can be to correctly date these old Pirates team photos. So, do you like this latest addition...and is it really the '06 team? Cheers! ~B

    190? Pittsburgh Pirates;

    Top Row, L-R: Ginger Beaumont (CF), Fred Carisch (C), Sam Leever (P), Otis Clymer (RF), unidentified, unidentified, unidentified, unidentified.

    Middle Row, L-R: Honus Wagner (SS), Heine Pietz (C), unidentified, unidentified, Mike Lynch (P), Deacon Phillippe (P), Ed Phelps?.

    Front Row, L-R; Patsy Flaherty (P), Claude Ritchey (2B), Fred Clarke (LF/Mgr.), Homer Hillebrand (UT), unidentified, Tommy Leach (UT).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSmile View Post
    1906 Pittsburgh Pirates Team Portrait
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    Here's a brand-new, very large edit of the '06 Pirates team. I spent quite a bit of time tweaking it, so I hope you guys enjoy it! It is currently residing as my desktop background (I have a 23" widescreen monitor). I have to wonder though: Is it the 1906 Pirates or not? My sources lead me to say it is, but I know how tricky it can be to correctly date these old Pirates team photos. So, do you like this latest addition...and is it really the '06 team? Cheers! ~B
    IF you look at their socks, they only wore the 3 stripe socks 2 years 1902 and 1903 according to the uniform database . Hope that helps. Checking more on the socks it looks they wore them in Photos from 1901-1904. But I don't see them after that in photos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dto7 View Post
    IF you look at their socks, they only wore the 3 stripe socks 2 years 1902 and 1903. Hope that helps.
    That certainly helps! Looking at the HOF-Dressed To the Nines site, it looks like the 1902-03 team wore striped shirts under their jerseys. I'll have to dig for a photo of that!

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    Here's the 1906 Pirates photo with names, if some one wants to check names with BSmile's great looking Pirate Photo.

    YOU CAN DELETE THIS AT ANYTIME.
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