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    Quote Originally Posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post
    Certainly no way to tell had claire not come along. Of course he was younger in 1922 and 1925. What I'm thinking, no Claire from 1929 to 1935, would his off field activities been the same. Could have married another woman but Claire was no pansy, she was strong and had some influence on The Babe. It was rumored that in the early years of their marriage that Claire made an offer to the Yankee owners that was hard to refuse. If the owners would pay for the road hotels she would travel with the Babe. Sounds like a good deal, someone to keep a check on their franchise player. This lasted the first few years. Even if we assume she didn't add any calendar year to his career would he have performed the same those years 1929-1935.
    Claire certainly took control of the checkbook...I think their rule was that Babe could have as much money as he wanted, but it was provided in $100 checks signed by Claire. I think the idea was that he'd get sick of waiting for her to write them out if he asked for a huge pile of money, or he'd be embarrassed to ask for too much.
    It's hard to say, but I wonder if Helen's psychological problems were due in part to Babe's wild lifestyle...clearly, in Claire, Babe had a woman who had the strength and will to rein him in, at least somewhat. But, Babe was able to enjoy being married to a much younger and very appealing woman...and, he may have been ready to slow things down due to age, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellborn View Post
    Claire certainly took control of the checkbook...I think their rule was that Babe could have as much money as he wanted, but it was provided in $100 checks signed by Claire. I think the idea was that he'd get sick of waiting for her to write them out if he asked for a huge pile of money, or he'd be embarrassed to ask for too much.
    It's hard to say, but I wonder if Helen's psychological problems were due in part to Babe's wild lifestyle...clearly, in Claire, Babe had a woman who had the strength and will to rein him in, at least somewhat. But, Babe was able to enjoy being married to a much younger and very appealing woman...and, he may have been ready to slow things down due to age, anyway.
    Right on with the checks. Some weeks ago I posted a check Babe used.....signed by him and Claire.

    Supposedly Babe's wild ways did have some impact on Helen. Not only his party ways it was what else his early fame brought on, the public reaction to Babe. Helen was not Claire, 180 degrees here, Claire was a woman of the world, loved the spotlight.

    Helen never cared for the world that Babe's fame brought on. The phone never stopped ringing, all kinds of offers coming his way, even calls from some fans. It actually got to Babe, changed his phone number so many times he and Helen had trouble remembering the number.

    She didn't like the crowds in restaurants, people staring, people outside glaring at them. Remember no TV back then, seeing Babe on the street a big deal. Read one article that told of her and Babe in a cab, suddenly surrounded by young boys, some on the hood, others pounding on the windows, she broke down crying. Two days later she was admitted to a hospital suffering with what they called "nervous exhaustion."

    She was not built for this lifestyle.

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    He never barnstormed my town but he did barnstorm my dads town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellborn View Post
    Claire certainly took control of the checkbook...I think their rule was that Babe could have as much money as he wanted, but it was provided in $100 checks signed by Claire. I think the idea was that he'd get sick of waiting for her to write them out if he asked for a huge pile of money, or he'd be embarrassed to ask for too much.
    It's hard to say, but I wonder if Helen's psychological problems were due in part to Babe's wild lifestyle...clearly, in Claire, Babe had a woman who had the strength and will to rein him in, at least somewhat. But, Babe was able to enjoy being married to a much younger and very appealing woman...and, he may have been ready to slow things down due to age, anyway.
    I believe it was $50 at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
    I'm pretty sure i've seen references to Babe Ruth being in Richmond, Indiana. I'm not quite sure what it means about not being able to do anything in the state, though. Indiana even has casinos.

    Yeah most of them are riverboat casinos and the ones on land has to be new or exceptions. I believe Indiana has a law or something regarding to casinos on land. There's not much excitement in Indiana is what I meant by "not being
    able to do anything." At least to me anyway... it probably has to do with me being from a very small town in Indiana (Earl Park- maybe 300 people on a good day) and cornfield for miles. Although Indianapolis are starting to get things where people are visiting to and we're building the world largest wind farm in my county, which is pretty cool to see when you're driving through. We're supposed to get like 1,100 windmills there. We're just big on college sports, drinking, and possum hunting.

    I figured Babe might've been to Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, and Gary for his barnstorming tours. I'll have to check out the newspaper for when he was here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Splendid Splinter View Post
    Yeah most of them are riverboat casinos and the ones on land has to be new or exceptions. I believe Indiana has a law or something regarding to casinos on land. There's not much excitement in Indiana is what I meant by "not being
    able to do anything." At least to me anyway... it probably has to do with me being from a very small town in Indiana (Earl Park- maybe 300 people on a good day) and cornfield for miles. Although Indianapolis are starting to get things where people are visiting to and we're building the world largest wind farm in my county, which is pretty cool to see when you're driving through. We're supposed to get like 1,100 windmills there. We're just big on college sports, drinking, and possum hunting.

    I figured Babe might've been to Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, and Gary for his barnstorming tours. I'll have to check out the newspaper for when he was here.
    Hey, Caesar's in New Albany is fun. I don't know if it actually moves or not.

    I've driven from Lafayette to Vincennes, straight down. And separately spent a bit of time in Terre Haute and Corydon. I hear you.

    Evansville is another town I wouldn't be surprised he'd visit. And, being the culture vulture he was, I'm sure Ruth couldn't resist the labyrinth in New Harmony.
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    The Bam played a great number of exhibition games in my town Buffalo NY. Within driving distance of Cleveland 200 miles, Detroit 250.

    It ws right here on Broadway Street that in a phone conversation with Judge Landis in 1921 that he told Landis to shove it, he was going to barnstorm, a conversation he would later regret, suspended for part of the 1922 season.

    The park that he hit a home run over the scoreboard Offerman Stadium was 400 feet and 40+ feet high. One other time he hit two over the scoreboard. To my knowledge the only other to hit one there was Luke Easter who did it at least one time and maybe twice.

    I'm looking at that admission, 50 cents for woman and children, so even higher for men. That was not only good money in 1930 but.............the Great Depression was taking place on top of that.
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    I know he had a farm in Sudbury, MA, but did he ever barnstorm around there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsburg2599 View Post
    I know he had a farm in Sudbury, MA, but did he ever barnstorm around there?
    not in Sudbury but
    Boston, Haverhill, Springfield and hit a huge homer in Everett Aug 9, 1928
    a solid 500 footer possibly as much as 520 feet.

    It was 495' to the house it landed upon.

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    Sixty years later, Tip O'Neill could still name many of the players from the North Cambridge baseball team, which played on Sundays before thousands of fans because the big leagues were, by law, forced to honor the Sabbath. There was Gaspipe Sullivan, Doc Gautreau, Sonny Foley, Tubber Cronin, Cheese McCrehan and Chippie Gaw. Since the K of C team couldn't lawfully sell tickets for Sunday baseball, the sponsors would charge admission for a pregame band concert or sell ice cream at inflated prices. As a boy Tom hawked popcorn in the Russell Field stands on weekends and weekday evenings, where he saw the Red Sox, Boston Braves and Negro League teams, with stars like Josh Gibson, play exhibition games. The Roaring Twenties, the years of O'Neill's boyhood, were a golden age for American sports, the era of Babe Ruth, Bobby Jones, Bill Tilden, Knute Rockne, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney and Red Grange. The most memorable exhibition young Tom witnessed took place in 1927, at Glendale Park in Everett, as a benefit for the victims of a huge oil tank explosion. The Red Sox played a local team, the Roche Club, that had enhanced the gate by getting New York Yankee teammates Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig to play on its side. Ruth popped up in his first time at bat, and the Red Sox manager told his pitcher to groove one down the middle so the fans could see "the Sultan" swat. "Ruth drove the ball over the fence, over the clubhouse, over some tennis courts and across the street onto the roof of some three-deckers. That ended the game— in pandemonium," O'Neill later recalled.
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    I dont know if he ever barnstormed here, but he played games of the 1927 World series, and hit HRS 713 and 714 here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elmer View Post
    not in Sudbury but
    Boston, Haverhill, Springfield and hit a huge homer in Everett Aug 9, 1928
    a solid 500 footer possibly as much as 520 feet
    Interesting, thanks. Anything else in MA or other parts of New England?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveironcity
    I dont know if he ever barnstormed here, but he played games of the 1927 World series, and hit HRS 713 and 714 here.
    In 1920 the Yanks played an exhibition game on their last western swing of the season. It was on September 8th. Sellout crowd of 25,000 saw Ruth hit the longest (to that point) homer ever in Pittsburgh, well over the right field wall....grandstand in right hadn't been built yet. The reaction from the Pittsburgh fans was so great, that the Yanks scheduled at least one game there, every other year or so. The Yanks first time to Cincinnati was on July 25, 1921.


    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsburg2599
    Interesting, thanks. Anything else in MA or other parts of New England?
    During the 1927 season, on June 24th, the Yanks had a night game scheduled in Lynn, MA but it was rained out. So Ruth had to wait until 1931 to play under artificial lighting. He hit a long homer his first time under lights, and also homered in his second time under lights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
    In 1920 the Yanks played an exhibition game on their last western swing of the season. It was on September 8th. Sellout crowd of 25,000 saw Ruth hit the longest (to that point) homer ever in Pittsburgh, well over the right field wall....grandstand in right hadn't been built yet. The reaction from the Pittsburgh fans was so great, that the Yanks scheduled at least one game there, every other year or so. The Yanks first time to Cincinnati was on July 25, 1921.
    Lots of publicity leading up to that game at Redland Park in Cincinnati. A difficult park to hit one out of, one of the reasons for the Yanks to play there, could Babe it one out. Here is the game write up, NY Times July 26,1921.
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    Babe Ruth hit the longest homerun of his career....and maybe in history a few miles from my front door in Wilkes-Barre, PA at Artillery Park. I am proud to say that I have hit a homer at the same place the Babe did. Although mine was around 380-390 ft. not 650!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post
    Lots of publicity leading up to that game at Redland Park in Cincinnati. A difficult park to hit one out of, one of the reasons for the Yanks to play there, could Babe it one out. Here is the game write up, NY Times July 26,1921.
    Approximately how far were those fences and bleachers, SHOELESSJOE3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Love The Game View Post
    Babe Ruth hit the longest homerun of his career....and maybe in history a few miles from my front door in Wilkes-Barre, PA at Artillery Park.
    He hit a similarly huge one during spring training in St. Petersburg, Florida, LTG - recently verified by an official state-certified survey.

    The man was truly incredible: Hercules in Pinstripes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EXCELSIOR View Post
    Approximately how far were those fences and bleachers, SHOELESSJOE3?
    I believe center was 420. Not sure how tall the wall was. Right was 384 with a 7.5 foot fence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
    I believe center was 420. Not sure how tall the wall was. Right was 384 with a 7.5 foot fence.
    Differing numbers on the wall in CF, one 37 feet and another 23 feet.

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    Ruth's last HR

    On March 31, 1924 Babe "hit a home run at the Mobile (Ala.) park which cleared the center field fence 480 feet distant."

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