Yankee Stadium [I] Demolition

[Strawman]

One thing I find fascinating about the Colosseum is the fact that there were luxury boxes that separated the haves from the have-nots. Some things never change.

Yeah, and I hear the moat was the real thing!

[Gary Dunaier]

yes so he could get the best gladiators to come- hence putting on the best show- drawing big crowds and making more money on concessions

[The Korean]

There is the problem. In case you haven't noticed, this is a STADIUM thread. No talk should be made about the players or teams inside them. There are tons of boards where you can talk about the Yankees players.

I'm LOL-ing at the stupidity. Which "Coliseum" was he LOL-ing at? The Colosseum, or Los Angeles Coliseum? Jeez.

Colosseum. Wow. Made a mistake big deal.

When did I ever talk about players here? I was merely making a point. Stadiums, yea, they are part of the team's history and culture, but the point, the main POINT of my post isnt about players. Its to address the complainers about how Yankees ignore tradition by building the new place. I was saying it doesnt because traditions are built by players and not the stadium. Like I said I am not talking about players but merely addressing a point about new stadium.

Sean O:What are you talking about? I am just addressing some people's post. Thats what the forum is here for. I cant even do that without being attacked by someone who has nothing to do with my post. What is wrong with you? When did I ever target you in anything? When did I ever have any animosity for anyone who appreciate Yankee Stadium? I dont. Why should I? I just have problems with folks who abandon their team because of the new stadium or just cant stop whining every time an old stadium picture appears they have to attack the new stadium. I loved old stadium. Believe me.

[Drivinjoe56]

Believe me I love baseball tradition- but the old yankee stadium and new yankee stadium are much nicer than that rundown dump- and as was said above- find the red sox a place for a new stadium and fenway would be blown to pieces- and after we win it all next year - the new stadium will have the same amount of world series titles as that dump has had in 92 years

hmm ur short by 3 but ill let it slide

[Celerino Sanchez]

I think this one is on topic so here goes. If you go to the Giants Construction cam on Giants. com. Interior View Cam...Cam 4. Please tell me I am not seeing columns in the back of the second level, ala Real Yankee Stadium. Also looks like obstructed views ala new Yankee Stadium.

[Celerino Sanchez]

http://www.giants.com/fan_zone/ConstructionCam.asp

[Mastermind]

hmm ur short by 3 but ill let it slide

short what

[DM23MVP]

I think this one is on topic so here goes. If you go to the Giants Construction cam on Giants. com. Interior View Cam...Cam 4. Please tell me I am not seeing columns in the back of the second level, ala Real Yankee Stadium. Also looks like obstructed views ala new Yankee Stadium.

For starters, this is a baseball thread so this is nowhere near topic. But yes, those are columns holding up the 2nd deck, I haven't been there in person, but they don't appear to be much of an obstruction, very few seats look to be obstructed.

[JoeDOYS]

I was saying it doesnt because traditions are built by players and not the stadium.

Sorry but Yankee Stadium is just as big of a part (if not bigger) of the tradition as Lou Gehrig, Joe D, The Mick, Yogi, Donnie B and whoever else is....yankee stadium was there for all of it, now its not.

New Yankee Stadium will be forever linked to money, greed and buying the best players.

How old are you if you dont mind me asking?

[The Korean]

I am actually 17. I am not going to suggest that I am old enough to remember tons about Yankees back in the 70's no I will not. But I am old enough to know that again, old stadium was grand, it was great and yes it was special. I am not suggesting that it wasnt or ignoring all the older players who played there, the legends, no sir I am not. But Yankees shouldnt be about the stadium. It should be about their legends, the tradition, the winning ways. I understand why some of you are upset, but you cant dwell on the fact that was pretty much inevitable. Hell, destruction of Fenway and Wrigley is inevitable.

ANd Yankee Stadium wasnt even the 1st home for the Yankees, or the only home in fact. It isnt even the same place where the Babe played or Lou Gehrig or Joe DiMaggio. Its not the same stadium.

[Yankeefan90]

ANd Yankee Stadium wasnt even the 1st home for the Yankees, or the only home in fact. It isnt even the same place where the Babe played or Lou Gehrig or Joe DiMaggio. Its not the same stadium.

It most certainly was the same place, the site of the building known as Yankee Stadium had not changed from 1923 to 2008, and while the renovations destroyed alot of the charm and beauty of the old Stadium, most of what you see is in fact original.

I enjoyed the renovated Stadium it's the first place I saw the Yankees play, I'm 19 in fact so I never saw the Stadium in all its glory. In fact I saw my first live Yankee game was when I was 15, took me a while to get there, but I remember it like I was making a pilgrimage to a holy site, it gave me chills walking in through the doors and I was proud that I was able to say goodbye and go to the final game and see the final HRs, the greatest Yankee of this generation speak to the fans and the lap around the field like we just won the World Series. It was special, with that said I will miss the old girl and I tipped my hat to her everytime when I went to a game this year, but I loved the new stadium the moment I walked in. The building is grand, and screams Yankees, the history that happened across the street won't be forgotten and new memories are being made already. And all this talk of the Yankees have no regard for history is bull, if anything the new Stadium only enhances their history.

Everything in Yankee history wether anyone likes it or not was done out of money. When the original Baltimore Orioles were sold and moved to NY to become the Highlanders it was done to make money for the original owners. When Ruppert bought the team he didn't do it because he liked baseball but to sell his beer. He brought Ruth over to make money, YS was made to generate more cash and to outsell the Giants, it's why a triple decked Stadium was built. I believe if Ruppert was alive today he would be very proud of the new Stadium and if life was like that in 1923 he would have done something similar. It's easy to look at history in todays lenses and say yesteryear was so much more charming, but the people who built society were just as ruthles and coniving as today's rich and famous. OYS, RYS, and NYS were all built with one thing in mind, make money. Is it unfortunate that history has to die with it, yes, but that doesn't mean we should stop rooting for the Yankees who have done everything right when it came to the amount of history that is in the new place.

[RationalNYYfan]

I was 12 when I saw my first Yankee game (it was Ron Guidry Day - August 23rd, 2003!) and I remember entering through Gate 4. I thought the place was absolutely gigantic and I can distinctly remember getting off the subway, walking to the gate, and being genuinely intimidated even as a Yankee fan! I sat way up in the grandstand on the right hand side. I can't quite remember who pitched...it might've been Mussina or Pettitte, but WOW was I scared of the grandstand being so steep. I actually thought that one false move, a trip over a spilled coke, would send me down 20 rows and onto the field. I also remember my feet being basically at neck level of the row below me - something I wasn't used to after going to Red Sox games my whole life (I'm from New Hampshire).

I went another time in September 2005 - Yankees vs. Red Sox - the place was an absolute drunken mess up in the grandstands again. A 45 year old woman exposed herself in the 3rd inning and was promptly escorted out, beer was thrown around after bad calls, I was sober as a judge yet reeked of alcohol, the fans were saying curse words I didn't know existed, and the place was just ROUDY. I loved every minute of it. Imagine Thanksgiving dinner without the meal but with 200 of your rowdiest relatives. That's how it felt. I literally felt like I was with my family, and they all were drunk together. Interestingly enough, it was from that moment on that my dad gave up cussing around the house and figured "You've heard Yankee Stadium, the stuff I say ain't as bad as that." Ever since then, we've had one of those mutual relationships where it's okay to let a swear out every once in a while.

It's stuff like that that makes me love Yankee Stadium. This new place won't ever be the same - those same fans won't be together anymore, they can't afford it. The place is 5000 seats smaller, the cops are 10 times tougher, the rules are stricter, the place is cleaner. All those fans that splashed beer on my head and gave me (then a 14 year old) drunken high fives and hugs, probably sat on the couch or at Stan's watching the game together this year. It'll never be the same, and that's why the new house just won't quite be the same. It's too clean and nice for baseball.

[Mastermind]

It'll never be the same, and that's why the new house just won't quite be the same. It's too clean and nice for baseball.

Not for world series champion baseball

[Mastermind]

I was 12 when I saw my first Yankee game (it was Ron Guidry Day - August 23rd, 2003!) and I remember entering through Gate 4. I thought the place was absolutely gigantic and I can distinctly remember getting off the subway, walking to the gate, and being genuinely intimidated even as a Yankee fan! I sat way up in the grandstand on the right hand side. I can't quite remember who pitched...it might've been Mussina or Pettitte, but WOW was I scared of the grandstand being so steep. I actually thought that one false move, a trip over a spilled coke, would send me down 20 rows and onto the field. I also remember my feet being basically at neck level of the row below me - something I wasn't used to after going to Red Sox games my whole life (I'm from New Hampshire).

I went another time in September 2005 - Yankees vs. Red Sox - the place was an absolute drunken mess up in the grandstands again. A 45 year old woman exposed herself in the 3rd inning and was promptly escorted out, beer was thrown around after bad calls, I was sober as a judge yet reeked of alcohol, the fans were saying curse words I didn't know existed, and the place was just ROUDY. I loved every minute of it. Imagine Thanksgiving dinner without the meal but with 200 of your rowdiest relatives. That's how it felt. I literally felt like I was with my family, and they all were drunk together. Interestingly enough, it was from that moment on that my dad gave up cussing around the house and figured "You've heard Yankee Stadium, the stuff I say ain't as bad as that." Ever since then, we've had one of those mutual relationships where it's okay to let a swear out every once in a while.

It's stuff like that that makes me love Yankee Stadium. This new place won't ever be the same - those same fans won't be together anymore, they can't afford it. The place is 5000 seats smaller, the cops are 10 times tougher, the rules are stricter, the place is cleaner. All those fans that splashed beer on my head and gave me (then a 14 year old) drunken high fives and hugs, probably sat on the couch or at Stan's watching the game together this year. It'll never be the same, and that's why the new house just won't quite be the same. It's too clean and nice for baseball.

those drunk guys were not high fiving in the grandstand in the 80's either when the grandstand for the most part was empty

[RationalNYYfan]

Two ridiculous posts, back to back and belly to belly.

[Mastermind]

Two ridiculous posts, back to back and belly to belly.

of course the new yankee stadium will never be the same as the rys- who expected it to be
when we walked into the rys back in 1976 for the first time we knew it would never be the same as the original -but it all worked out -even you would agree

some like you may never like the new place- others like me will enjoy my 3rd yankees home as I did this year

[The Korean]

It most certainly was the same place, the site of the building known as Yankee Stadium had not changed from 1923 to 2008, and while the renovations destroyed alot of the charm and beauty of the old Stadium, most of what you see is in fact original.

I enjoyed the renovated Stadium it's the first place I saw the Yankees play, I'm 19 in fact so I never saw the Stadium in all its glory. In fact I saw my first live Yankee game was when I was 15, took me a while to get there, but I remember it like I was making a pilgrimage to a holy site, it gave me chills walking in through the doors and I was proud that I was able to say goodbye and go to the final game and see the final HRs, the greatest Yankee of this generation speak to the fans and the lap around the field like we just won the World Series. It was special, with that said I will miss the old girl and I tipped my hat to her everytime when I went to a game this year, but I loved the new stadium the moment I walked in. The building is grand, and screams Yankees, the history that happened across the street won't be forgotten and new memories are being made already. And all this talk of the Yankees have no regard for history is bull, if anything the new Stadium only enhances their history.

Everything in Yankee history wether anyone likes it or not was done out of money. When the original Baltimore Orioles were sold and moved to NY to become the Highlanders it was done to make money for the original owners. When Ruppert bought the team he didn't do it because he liked baseball but to sell his beer. He brought Ruth over to make money, YS was made to generate more cash and to outsell the Giants, it's why a triple decked Stadium was built. I believe if Ruppert was alive today he would be very proud of the new Stadium and if life was like that in 1923 he would have done something similar. It's easy to look at history in todays lenses and say yesteryear was so much more charming, but the people who built society were just as ruthles and coniving as today's rich and famous. OYS, RYS, and NYS were all built with one thing in mind, make money. Is it unfortunate that history has to die with it, yes, but that doesn't mean we should stop rooting for the Yankees who have done everything right when it came to the amount of history that is in the new place.

I dont think history dies with a stadium. History lives with the team. Again, I understand where you are coming from. Great memories in that old place. I absolutely agree.

[Yankeefan90]

I dont think history dies with a stadium. History lives with the team. Again, I understand where you are coming from. Great memories in that old place. I absolutely agree.

What I meant was that it's sad that we're losing a historical articfact, like our very own Colosseum. My mistake for not being clearer. While it's true that history doesn't die with a Stadium or any building for that matter it's also true that the significance of those events somewhat die, and that's the sad part and what many are lamenting on this site. For our human minds to grasp the importance of events and even the importance of our own personal memories that happened in places sometimes we need to see the physical object or building to get a clear picture. It was easy to go to Yankee Stadium and point out where Maris' 61st homer landed, or where Reggie's 3 HRs landed, or where Jeffery Maier caught that ball on a fateful October '96 night. But soon, with the physical structure gone we could point to places and approximate where these events took place and feel proud but for future generations the site of where these great moments took place will mean little if anything to them if they don't have a physical reminder of the grandoise structure that stood there. Hopefully gate 2 is saved so that way a reminder of the Stadium is there and future generations could understand the history that took place on the site originally known as Yankee Stadium.

[SparkyL]

What I meant was that it's sad that we're losing a historical articfact, like our very own Colosseum. My mistake for not being clearer. While it's true that history doesn't die with a Stadium or any building for that matter it's also true that the significance of those events somewhat die, and that's the sad part and what many are lamenting on this site. For our human minds to grasp the importance of events and even the importance of our own personal memories that happened in places sometimes we need to see the physical object or building to get a clear picture. It was easy to go to Yankee Stadium and point out where Maris' 61st homer landed, or where Reggie's 3 HRs landed, or where Jeffery Maier caught that ball on a fateful October '96 night. But soon, with the physical structure gone we could point to places and approximate where these events took place and feel proud but for future generations the site of where these great moments took place will mean little if anything to them if they don't have a physical reminder of the grandoise structure that stood there. Hopefully gate 2 is saved so that way a reminder of the Stadium is there and future generations could understand the history that took place on the site originally known as Yankee Stadium.

Indeed. The bottom line is that OYS/RYS was living history. That's was we are losing.

[1983whitesox]

I wish I had been to Yankee Stadium more. I just saw my White Sox and Yankees play last September. What an experience. I always thought Yankee Stadium would have out lived them all and then some. But I thought what if it was torn down someday. Well a new one one would be better (Comiskey Park II was not!! Its better nw though). But After experiencing Yankee Stadium last year for my first only time. I too am going to miss it. I have had the oppurtunity to have been to Comiskey Park, Clevelands Municipal Stadium and Three Rivers Stadium before they tore them down. Do I miss those? Only Comiskey Park since I am a Sox fan. But there has been so much history at Yankee Stadium that it is a shame it will be no longer. It would be like tearing down Egypts Pyramids to make way for bigger better looking ones. Oh well.I am rambling on. I am so happy I was there. R.I.P. Yankee Stadium

[yankies4life]

Indeed. The bottom line is that OYS/RYS was living history. That's was we are losing.

"Although things are going to change next year and we're going to move across the street, there are a few things with the New York Yankees that never change. That's pride, tradition, and most of all, we have the greatest fans in the world. We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium and continue to pass them on from generation to generation. We just want to take this moment to salute you, the greatest fans in the world."


From the Captains mouth. Just because you cant go to that spot where the history happened, doesnt mean its dead. Memories are what you make of them. I guess Im one of the people who have moved on from the old place. Its something that you just have to accept. Complaining about it what do anything. I have no problem saying that you miss it, but when people whine about the new stadium and the old stadium, I find it silly and childish. Appreciate the good times that you had, watch an old yankees classic from the old place and remember the memories. Just because its not there doesnt mean the memory has to die. The old place had its pro's and con's like every other thing in the world. Nothing is ever perfect and nothing ever will be.

The new place has already made some great memories and its only been 1 season. Just imagine 10 years from now. The Yankees are not just a building, they are a team, a franchise and a fan base.

[Mastermind]

What I meant was that it's sad that we're losing a historical articfact, like our very own Colosseum. My mistake for not being clearer. While it's true that history doesn't die with a Stadium or any building for that matter it's also true that the significance of those events somewhat die, and that's the sad part and what many are lamenting on this site. For our human minds to grasp the importance of events and even the importance of our own personal memories that happened in places sometimes we need to see the physical object or building to get a clear picture. It was easy to go to Yankee Stadium and point out where Maris' 61st homer landed, or where Reggie's 3 HRs landed, or where Jeffery Maier caught that ball on a fateful October '96 night. But soon, with the physical structure gone we could point to places and approximate where these events took place and feel proud but for future generations the site of where these great moments took place will mean little if anything to them if they don't have a physical reminder of the grandoise structure that stood there. Hopefully gate 2 is saved so that way a reminder of the Stadium is there and future generations could understand the history that took place on the site originally known as Yankee Stadium.

every game last year I relived seeing the flight of boones game 7 hr and where it landed- the great world series victories and running down the ramps high fiving -same with many of the other great moments I witnessed thinking about where I was or the flight of the ball- ever since opening day 1976 and the other 1000 plus games I went to-
looking at that picture of the bleachers torn apart is painful -as I sat there for many years- and Im sure there will be many painful days ahead-
But I must admit - though the experience wasnt the same at the new place this year- in the end I was at yankees games with friends and my kids and somehow it all worked out- I think in many ways were blessed to still have Jeter, Mariano, Jorge, and Andy who somehow seemed to make the changeover easier.
What a mistake if in the end a major remnant of the old place is not standing when its all said and done

[SparkyL]

"Although things are going to change next year and we're going to move across the street, there are a few things with the New York Yankees that never change. That's pride, tradition, and most of all, we have the greatest fans in the world. We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium and continue to pass them on from generation to generation. We just want to take this moment to salute you, the greatest fans in the world."


From the Captains mouth. Just because you cant go to that spot where the history happened, doesnt mean its dead. Memories are what you make of them. I guess Im one of the people who have moved on from the old place. Its something that you just have to accept. Complaining about it what do anything. I have no problem saying that you miss it, but when people whine about the new stadium and the old stadium, I find it silly and childish. Appreciate the good times that you had, watch an old yankees classic from the old place and remember the memories. Just because its not there doesnt mean the memory has to die. The old place had its pro's and con's like every other thing in the world. Nothing is ever perfect and nothing ever will be.

The new place has already made some great memories and its only been 1 season. Just imagine 10 years from now. The Yankees are not just a building, they are a team, a franchise and a fan base.

Oh I agree with you. All I was saying is it's a different experience when the memories "come to life." Being in a "living history" site or facility makes the memories much more vivid and much easier to pass on.

[The Korean]

Indeed. The bottom line is that OYS/RYS was living history. That's was we are losing.

You know what, I cant argue with that. But I think we can make new ones at the new place. Its not like we were expecting the Yankees to play at the old stadium forever, right?

[yankies4life]

Oh I agree with you. All I was saying is it's a different experience when the memories "come to life." Being in a "living history" site or facility makes the memories much more vivid and much easier to pass on.

I understand. I guess thats why we have museums and such, it gives us something we can point to. I think its interesting that we're in a day of age where we have to show physical evidence of something. But I agree, its easier to see something and give us a visual, instead of just hearing it and making our own picture.