All-time one-team lineups

[RuthMayBond]

Would Ichiro count?

Not his fault he was born in Japan when there wasn't as much player movement between countries, I'd allow him

[OleMissCub]

Cubs lose the services of Santo, Williams, Anson, Harnett, Jenkins, and Brown among others. Really decimates the all-time team.

Cubs would also lose Sandberg, Chance, Cavaretta, Stan Hack.

I'm not going to count Anson as ineligible because the only non-Cubs teams he played for existed before there was even a National League

The best I could come up with is:

1B: Anson
2B: Don Johnson
3B: Stan Hack
SS: Ernie Banks
OF: I can't come up with anyone for any of the three spots

P: Zambrano

WOW. That really is it. Wow.

[dgarza]

Reds

Manager : Pete Rose
C : Johnny Bench
1 : John Reilly
2 : Bid McPhee
SS : Barry Larkin
3 : Edwin Encarnacion
RF : Max Marshall
CF : Bug Holliday
LF : Adam Dunn
SP : Mario Soto
SP : Hod Eller
SP : Johnny Cueto
SP : Harry Gaspar
CL : Tom Acker

[Victory Faust]

This is a lot more difficult than I thought when I started out...

[maxcarey]

For a Pirates shortstop, let's subsitute Gene Alley then for Honus Wagner.

Orioles:


C - Chris Hoiles
1B - Hank Arft
2B - Rich Dauer
SS - Cal Ripken
3B - Brooks Robinson
OF - Ray Pepper
OF - Jay Gibbons
OF - Dick Kokos
SP - Jim Palmer
SP - Scott McGregor
SP - Ernie Wingard
SP - Ken Dixon
Closer - Dave Ford

[maxcarey]

For a Pirates shortstop, let's subsitute Gene Alley then for Honus Wagner.

Orioles:


C - Chris Hoiles
1B - Hank Arft
2B - Rich Dauer
SS - Cal Ripken
3B - Brooks Robinson
OF - Ray Pepper
OF - Jay Gibbons
OF - Dick Kokos
SP - Jim Palmer
SP - Scott McGregor
SP - Ernie Wingard
SP - Carl Weilman
Closer - Ken Dixon

[maxcarey]

Giants

C - Wes Westrum
1B - Bill Terry
2B - Robby Thompson
SS - Travis Jackson
3B - Jim Davenport
OF - Mel Ott
OF - Ross Youngs
OF - Jo-Jo Moore
SP - Carl Hubbell
SP - Hal Schumacher
SP - Cliff Melton
SP - Jeff Tesreau
Closer -Ace Adams

[RuthMayBond]

Reds

Manager : Pete Rose

Phillies, Expos ...

[maxcarey]

I read that to mean that he meant the Reds were the only team he managed.

[dgarza]

I read that to mean that he meant the Reds were the only team he managed.

You read correctly.

[1905 Giants]

Dodgers

C- Roy Campanella
1B-
2B- Jackie Robinson
3B- Jim Gilliam
SS- Pee Wee Reese
LF-
CF-
RF- Carl Furillo

P- Don Drysdale, Sandy Koufax,

Finally, Post # 500.

[Second Base Coach]

Ouch, the Yanks lose Berra in this thread because of a lousy four games with the Mets.

[Second Base Coach]

Dodgers

C- Roy Campanella
1B-
2B- Jackie Robinson
3B- Jim Gilliam
SS- Pee Wee Reese
LF-
CF-
RF- Carl Furillo

P- Don Drysdale, Sandy Koufax,

Hmmmm... this team would be good if we can ignore those 149 at-bats Gil Hodges had with the Mets at the end of his career and Zack Wheat's 247 at-bats during his final season with the A's. We almost get some pitchers too... like Doug Rau.

building on that:

C- Roy Campanella (Mike Scioscia) (Otto Miller)
1B- Wes Parker
2B- Jackie Robinson
3B- Jim Gilliam
SS- Pee Wee Reese (Bill Russell)
LF- Andre Ethier ? (Sandy Amoros edited out)
CF- Johnny Frederick
RF- Carl Furillo (Harry Lumley)

P- Don Drysdale, Sandy Koufax, Nap Rucker, Carl Erskine

Like most teams, we are hurt by many players who tried to hang on for one or two more seasons at the end of their careers. Duke Snider makes this team better... Gil Hodges....

[1905 Giants]

LF- Sandy Amoros

Unfortunately, Amoros played with Detroit in his last season, so we're still short a left fielder.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Ouch, the Yanks lose Berra in this thread because of a lousy four games with the Mets.

The Giants lose Christy Mathewson because of the lousy ONE GAME he pitched for the Reds at the end of his career.

[1905 Giants]

This is a lot more difficult than I thought when I started out...

In a way, that makes it more fun, since its a challenge.

[RuthMayBond]

I'm curious to see what kind of all-time teams we could put together for each club, made up of players who spent their entire careers with one franchise.

For instance, my Yanks team would be:

1B: Gehrig
2B: Cano? (I was going to put Lazzeri, but I see he played his final season with Chicago)
SS: Jeter
3B: Rolfe
LF: Henrich
CF: Mantle/DiMaggio
RF: Combs
C: Berra

P: Ron Guidry, Whitey Ford, Spud Chandler, Russ Ford
Closer: M. Rivera

You may have to rough it with Posada or Munson

[OleMissCub]

The Cubs have GOT to be the team most hurt by this.

Cubs HOFers (I'm including Santo, by god!) who are disqualified and the few games with other teams that disqualify them.

C: Hartnett (64 games with Giants)
1B: Chance (13 games with Yankees)
2B: Sandberg (13 games with Phillies)
3B: Santo (117 games with White Sox)
LF: Williams (275 games with Athletics)

Their lineup if those guys were allowed:

C: Hartnett
1B: Chance
2B: Sandberg
SS: Banks
3B: Santo
LF: Williams
CF: ?
RF: ?
P: Zambrano

That's a dang good core!

[AstrosFan]

Here's the best Cubs team I could come up with:

C Paul Gillespie
1B Ernie Banks
2B Don Johnson
3B Stan Hack
SS Charlie Hollocher
OF Matt Murton
OF Denver Grigsby
OF Bob Will
SP Carlos Zambrano
RP Kerry Wood

Now for my team, the Astros:

C Tony Eusebio
1B Jeff Bagwell
2B Craig Biggio
3B Gary Cooper
SS J. C. Hartman
OF Lance Berkman
OF Hunter Pence
OF Mike White
SP Roy Oswalt
RP Chris Sampson

Pretty sad. We'd have a better team, except a lot of our players moved on for the first time this year.

[AstrosFan]

Top 20 in career Win Shares among players who spent their entire career with one franchise:

Fname	Lname		Franch	Pos	WS
Stan	Musial		STL	OF	604
Mickey	Mantle		NYY	OF	565
Walter	Johnson		MIN	P	560
Ted	Williams	BOS	OF	555
Mel	Ott		SFG	OF	528
Lou	Gehrig		NYY	1B	489
Carl	Yastrzemski	BOS	OF	488
Mike	Schmidt		PHI	3B	467
Al	Kaline		DET	OF	443
George	Brett		KCR	3B	432
Craig	Biggio		HOU	2B	431
Cal	Ripken		BAL	SS	427
Robin	Yount		MIL	SS	423
Tony	Gwynn		SDP	OF	398
Jeff	Bagwell		HOU	1B	388
Joe	DiMaggio	NYY	OF	387
Charlie	Gehringer	DET	2B	383
Luke	Appling		CHW	SS	378
Roberto	Clemente	PIT	OF	377
Willie	Stargell	PIT	OF	370

[RuthMayBond]

Top 20 in career Win Shares among players who spent their entire career with one franchise:

Fname	Lname		Franch	Pos	WS
Stan	Musial		STL	OF	604
Mickey	Mantle		NYY	OF	565
Walter	Johnson		MIN	P	560
Ted	Williams	BOS	OF	555
Mel	Ott		SFG	OF	528
Lou	Gehrig		NYY	1B	489
Carl	Yastrzemski	BOS	OF	488
Mike	Schmidt		PHI	3B	467
Al	Kaline		DET	OF	443
George	Brett		KCR	3B	432
Craig	Biggio		HOU	2B	431
Cal	Ripken		BAL	SS	427
Robin	Yount		MIL	SS	423
Tony	Gwynn		SDP	OF	398
Jeff	Bagwell		HOU	1B	388
Joe	DiMaggio	NYY	OF	387
Charlie	Gehringer	DET	2B	383
Luke	Appling		CHW	SS	378
Roberto	Clemente	PIT	OF	377
Willie	Stargell	PIT	OF	370

Awesome work, could you do at least a top 20 for pitchers, thanks

[maxcarey]

Yankees could have Hall of Famer Bill Dickey at catcher and Bobby Richardson at second base.

[AstrosFan]

Fname	Lname		Franch	Pos	WS
Walter	Johnson		MIN	P	560
Bob	Gibson		STL	P	317
Ted	Lyons		CHW	P	312
Jim	Palmer		BAL	P	312
Carl	Hubbell		SFG	P	305
Bob	Feller		CLE	P	292
Red	Faber		CHW	P	292
John	Smoltz		ATL	P	285
Whitey	Ford		NYY	P	261
Don	Drysdale	LAD	P	258
Mel	Harder		CLE	P	234
Bob	Lemon		CLE	P	232
Tommy	Bridges		DET	P	225
Hooks	Dauss		DET	P	215
Sam	Leever		PIT	P	212
Eddie	Rommel		OAK	P	209
Sandy	Koufax		LAD	P	194
Addie	Joss		CLE	P	191
Mariano	Rivera		NYY	P	184
Steve	Rogers		WSN	P	182
Mel	Stottlemyre	NYY	P	177
Nap	Rucker		LAD	P	177
Hal	Schumacher	SFG	P	176
Ron	Guidry		NYY	P	174
Brad	Radke		MIN	P	159

That's a top 25. I haven't checked the list closely, my database only runs through the 2007 season. Some of these may have changed teams for the first time this year.

[Victory Faust]

Yankees could have Hall of Famer Bill Dickey at catcher and Bobby Richardson at second base.

Good calls. I screwed the pooch on my Berra pick...I didn't know he ever played for the Mets.

[AstrosFan]

Yankees:

C Dickey
1B Gehrig
2B McDougald
3B Rolfe
SS Jeter
OF Mantle
OF DiMaggio
OF Williams
SP Ford
RP Rivera

And check out this bench:

C Munson
1B Mattingly
2B Richardson
3B Brown
SS Rizzuto
OF White
OF Combs
OF Henrich

That just isn't fair. The Yankees bench could beat a lot of teams' starters.