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    Personally, I don't consider other contributions much. If I think a guy is borderline for a yes or no, it can come into play, but I definitely tend to go with what they did as players. Player/managers are tough because they had a merged role, and it isn't always easy separating the two. Those guys are likely to get a boost if they had success as the titular head of the team.
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  2. #3977
    Quote Originally Posted by Freakshow View Post
    Here's my 30-man list of no-shows:

    C: Rick Ferrell, Tim McCarver
    1B: Jake Daubert, Fred Tenney
    2B: Lonny Frey, Max Bishop
    3B: Billy Nash, Tim Wallach
    SS: Dick Bartell, Alvin Dark
    Dan,
    Alvin Dark is number 488.

    By the way, have you listed Dark or anyone else in your queue partly in recognition of his non-playing roles? or do you consider them all too minor to matter here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Wendt View Post
    Dan,
    Alvin Dark is number 488.

    By the way, have you listed Dark or anyone else in your queue partly in recognition of his non-playing roles? or do you consider them all too minor to matter here?
    Thanks for the heads-up on Dark. I'll have to conjure up another shortstop.

    I suspect like others here I often forget to consider non-playing roles. I usually remember it in close cases where it can serve as a tie-breaker. This may have happened for Dark, Ferrell and McCarver; I don't recall who else I considered. In any case, it's generally too minor to make a large impact on rankings.
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    one more structured queue

    This is a structured queue of size thirty such as moderator Freakshow requested from participants and interested observers. There are five posted above. See the previous page (#3972) for some guide to discussion of the queue.


    C. : Jack Rowe, Rick Ferrell
    1B: Jake Daubert, Bob Watson, ...
    2B: Gil McDougald, Max Bishop
    SS: Dick Bartell, Art Fletcher
    3B: Billy Nash, Harlond Clift, ...
    LF: Roy White, Elmer Smith
    CF: Cy Seymour, Mike Griffin, ...
    RF: Tommy Henrich, Pedro Guerrero
    P. : Ned Garver, Nap Rucker, Eddie Rommel, Frank Viola, Dwight Gooden, Al Orth, Ted Breitenstein

    Negro Leagues: Sol White, Leroy Matlock

    Five more (...): Willie Davis, Chet Lemon, Ellis Burks, Kent Hrbek, Tim Wallach


    Top Six ranked:

    1. Cy Seymour
    2. Mike Griffin
    3. Billy Nash
    4. Tommy Henrich
    5. Ned Garver
    6. Jack Rowe

    Six-packs internally unranked:

    : McDougald and Bishop, Davis Lemon and Burks, Rucker
    : Daubert, Bartell, Clift, Roy White, Guerrero, Rommel
    : Watson and Hrbek, Wallach, Smith, Viola and Gooden
    : Ferrell, Fletcher, Orth and Breitenstein, Sol White and Matlock


    --
    Italics mark players whom I would not put in a simple queue of size thirty (8). Today I might replace them with Hal Trosky; Miller Huggins, Lonnie Frey, Bobby Avila, and Eddie Stanky; Arlie Latham; Rick Monday and Clyde Milan (grouped by fielding position).
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