Let’s get started! In this thread, we’ll produce our collaborative rankings of the top players in history. In the introductory thread for this game, The BBF HOF Forum Collaboration Game, you’ll find a thorough discussion of the rules. Here’s a briefer presentation of them.
The basic idea is we rank every player in history, taking turns listing the next name.
It would help if you already have a system in place for assessing hundreds of players. Well, I would hope at least 300, to capture every HOF-caliber player.
We’ve established a rotation of Gamers, arranging the names alphabetically to start with. The current rotation is listed in this post. Anyone who wants to join in and play is welcome; your name will be placed at the bottom of the rotation, so wait until it’s your turn to list a player. If you want to quit the game at any time, just let us know and we’ll take your name off the rotation. Periodically, we’ll reorder the rotation.
We’ll use Hall of Fame criteria for ranking players, so everything counts (character, managing, their overall contribution). Active players will be included, but they should be ranked on their value to date, not projecting them to how you think they will end up. Negro leaguers will be included. Japanese league stars with less than four years in MLB will not be included.
Players whose primary contribution was non-playing (McGraw, Griffith, Torre, etc.) will be ranked only on consideration of their playing career, not their total contribution.
Gamers have three options:
1) Add a player - Pretty simple, just recopy the list, adding your guy at the bottom. Doing this means you’re OK with the previous two players listed. A brief justification for your player is a good thing to include, but not required. Place the statement, “[Gamer X] is now on the clock” to signify the end of your turn. More about “on the clock” later.
2) Remove a player – You may remove one of the last two names on the list, adding your player at the bottom. After your player’s name, place this statement in parentheses: “sorry, I had to remove [player X] – Xth time”. (The same player can be removed up to a maximum of three times; after that he stays put the fourth time he is listed. A player may be listed a maximum of three times by the same Gamer.) Then place the “clock” statement to end your turn.
3) Reinstate and add – Before listing your player you can list the name of a player who was Removed in the previous turn. After the reinstated player’s name, place the word “reinstated” in parentheses. (You may not Reinstate and Remove in the same turn.) Then place the “clock” statement to end your turn.
On The Clock – A Gamer ends his official turn with the statement “[Gamer X] is now on the clock”. Gamer X has to wait at least an hour before he may post his official turn. This delay is to encourage discussion and feedback from the other Gamers as to the previous turn, as well as discussing the upcoming pick. They can try to persuade Gamer X to play his turn in a certain way. If Gamer X posts his turn early (<57 minutes after the previous turn) one of the other Gamers must alert him that he posted too early, that his turn is not official. In this case, after the required hour has passed Gamer X must make a post to reaffirm his turn or it will not count.
Unexcused Absence - Gamer X forfeits his turn if he has not posted his official turn (or reaffirmed his turn if posted too early) within 24 hours of being On the Clock. One of the Gamers should alert the Gamer following Gamer X that he is now On the Clock. Gamer X will be placed at the end of the round, if he requests to stay in the game; otherwise he will have no turn this round. This counts as an Unexcused Absence. After two consecutive Unexcused Absences or four overall, a Gamer will be allowed only a 12-hour clock for his turn. (It would be helpful if, when a Gamer is near to having his Clock expire (say, less than four hours to go) if the following gamer sent him a reminder via PM.)
Excused Absence - If Gamer X knows he will be away from the game, he should make this known to the other Gamers before his turn comes up. This way, everyone knows to skip him and put the next Gamer on the Clock. Gamer X will be moved to the end of the current rotation if he requests it; otherwise we’ll simply skip his turn. This eliminates having the game on hold for 24 hours, keeping things moving.
So, each name will have to pass the scrutiny of at least two other voters before it becomes permanent. We’re collaborating to, hopefully, produce a better ranking than any one of us could produce on our own.
In actual play, I would hope that the Remove option would only be used for players you think are listed significantly early, and not to replace guys you have coming up soon in your queue anyway. See the introductory thread for an example of the sequence of play.
Above all, we should maintain a spirit of cooperation. We’re working together to produce the very best rankings that we can. Discussion is encouraged here! We seek to enlighten others, relying on the force of our evidence more than our rhetoric. We hope that all Gamers will engage in a civil discourse that has become the hallmark of this forum.
Pitchers -
1 8 Walter Johnson *
2 15 Lefty Grove *
3 18 Greg Maddux #
4 21 Roger Clemens +
5 23 Cy Young *
6 27 Pete Alexander *
7 31 Christy Mathewson *
8 34 Tom Seaver *
9 35 Satchel Paige --
10 41 Warren Spahn *
11 44 Randy Johnson #
12 46 Steve Carlton *
13 50 Kid Nichols *
14 58 Bob Feller *
15 59 Smokey Joe Williams --
16 66 Bob Gibson *
17 67 Pedro Martinez #
18 74 Carl Hubbell *
19 75 Nolan Ryan *
20 78 Sandy Koufax *
21 84 Robin Roberts *
22 88 Eddie Plank *
23 89 Jim Palmer *
24 95 Bert Blyleven
25 103 Gaylord Perry *
26 105 Ed Walsh *
28 114 Phil Niekro *
29 116 Tim Keefe *
30 118 Mordecai Brown *
31 123 Whitey Ford *
32 126 Juan Marichal *
33 128 Dazzy Vance *
34 129 Bullet Joe Rogan --
36 136 John Clarkson *
37 142 Hal Newhouser *
39 149 Fergie Jenkins *
40 150 Tom Glavine #
41 152 Don Sutton *
42 166 Amos Rusie *
43 172 Curt Schilling +
44 173 John Smoltz #
45 174 Charley Radbourn *
46 176 Rube Foster --
47 177 Mike Mussina #
50 183 Rube Waddell *
51 184 Red Ruffing *
52 187 Don Drysdale *
53 190 Stan Coveleski *
54 192 Early Wynn *
55 201 Ray Brown --
56 202 Jim Bunning *
57 203 Al Spalding *
58 204 Ted Lyons *
59 205 Eppa Rixey *
60 215 Wes Ferrell
61 218 Bill Foster --
62 222 Kevin Brown +
63 223 Joe McGinnity *
64 224 Pud Galvin *
65 229 Dizzy Dean *
66 231 Red Faber *
67 239 Jose Mendez --
68 252 Bob Lemon *
70 259 Clark Griffith *
71 263 Bob Caruthers
72 269 Vic Willis *
74 272 Johan Santana #
76 287 Jim McCormick
77 290 Tommy Bridges
78 296 Carl Mays
79 299 Burleigh Grimes *
80 306 Addie Joss *
81 307 Mickey Welch *
82 308 Billy Pierce
83 310 Dave Stieb
84 312 Tony Mullane
85 313 Urban Shocker
86 316 Tommy John
87 318 Hilton Smith --
88 321 Wilbur Cooper
89 323 Bret Saberhagen
90 330 Dick Redding ---
91 338 Luis Tiant
92 340 Ron Guidry
93 344 Bucky Walters
94 345 Jack Morris
95 349 Lefty Gomez *
97 358 Leon Day --
98 359 Jim Creighton
100 361 David Cone
102 364 Jim Kaat
103 368 Herb Pennock *
104 369 Catfish Hunter *
105 370 Chief Bender *
106 372 Rick Reuschel
107 381 Tommy Bond
108 382 Don Newcombe
109 386 Lon Warneke
111 399 Dolf Luque
112 402 Eddie Cicotte +
113 403 Waite Hoyt *
114 406 Frank Tanana
116 410 Roy Oswalt #
117 415 Dutch Leonard
118 428 Mickey Lolich
119 431 Jerry Koosman
120 432 Bill Jackman ---
121 436 Orel Hershiser
122 437 Roy Halladay #
124 441 Hippo Vaughn
125 449 Dizzy Trout
128 454 Jack Quinn
130 457 Brandon Webb #
131 459 Vida Blue
132 462 Kevin Appier
133 464 Andy Cooper --
134 465 Noodles Hahn
135 468 Silver King
136 470 Virgil Trucks
137 471 Chuck Finley
138 474 Allie Reynolds
139 477 Harry Brecheen
140 479 Smoky Joe Wood
141 485 Babe Adams
Relief Pitchers
27 113 Mariano Rivera #
35 133 Dennis Eckersley *
38 146 Hoyt Wilhelm *
48 178 Rich Gossage *
49 181 Rollie Fingers *
69 258 Bruce Sutter *
73 270 Trevor Hoffman #
75 281 Dan Quisenberry
96 356 Billy Wagner #
99 360 Kent Tekulve
101 362 Lee Smith
110 388 John Franco +
115 408 Firpo Marberry
123 438 John Hiller
126 450 John Wetteland
127 451 Tom Henke
129 455 Sparky Lyle
Catchers
01 10 Josh Gibson --
02 25 Yogi Berra *
03 30 Johnny Bench *
04 49 Mike Piazza +
05 61 Mickey Cochrane *
06 77 Roy Campanella *
07 79 Buck Ewing *
08 98 Ivan Rodriguez #
09 99 Gary Carter *
10 101 Carlton Fisk *
11 124 Bill Dickey *
12 130 Gabby Hartnett *
13 132 Deacon White
14 157 Louis Santop --
15 170 Ted Simmons
16 189 Joe Torre
17 221 Bill Freehan
18 235 Charlie Bennett
19 236 Roger Bresnahan *
20 266 Cal McVey
21 275 Thurman Munson
22 285 Biz Mackey --
23 298 Ernie Lombardi *
24 303 Elston Howard
25 317 Quincy Trouppe ---
26 320 Lance Parrish
27 331 Wally Schang
28 380 Jorge Posada #
29 385 Deacon McGuire
30 387 Gene Tenace
31 390 Walker Cooper
32 392 Ray Schalk *
33 401 Darrell Porter
34 407 Bob Boone
35 420 Ted Radcliffe ---
36 433 Duke Farrell
37 446 Jim Sundberg
38 461 Johnny Kling
39 494 Darren Daulton
First Basemen
01 12 Lou Gehrig *
02 22 Jimmie Foxx *
03 33 Cap Anson *
04 39 Dan Brouthers *
05 47 Hank Greenberg *
06 68 Frank Thomas #
07 70 Johnny Mize *
08 73 Jeff Bagwell +
09 76 Buck Leonard --
10 80 Harmon Killebrew *
11 82 Eddie Murray *
12 86 Willie McCovey *
13 97 Roger Connor *
14 110 Mule Suttles --
15 115 Mark McGwire
16 121 Albert Pujols #
17 137 Dick Allen
18 144 Rafael Palmeiro +
19 158 Jim Thome #
20 168 Joe Start
21 191 Fred McGriff +
22 198 Orlando Cepeda *
23 199 Carlos Delgado #
24 209 Tony Perez *
25 217 George Sisler *
26 232 Keith Hernandez
27 233 Will Clark
28 241 Bill Terry *
29 255 Todd Helton #
30 286 Frank Chance *
31 302 Steve Garvey
32 314 Jake Beckley *
33 322 Don Mattingly
34 329 Norm Cash
35 333 Gil Hodges
36 351 Jim Bottomley *
37 371 John Olerud +
38 389 Mickey Vernon
39 391 Boog Powell
40 397 Jason Giambi #
41 398 Ben Taylor --
42 413 Mark Grace
43 425 Andres Galarraga +
44 430 David Ortiz #
45 445 Jack Fournier
46 472 Ed Konetchy
47 486 Luke Easter ---
48 499 Dolph Camilli
Second Basemen
01 14 Rogers Hornsby *
02 19 Eddie Collins *
03 29 Nap Lajoie *
04 32 Joe Morgan *
05 36 Jackie Robinson *
06 57 Charlie Gehringer *
07 63 Frankie Frisch *
08 72 Craig Biggio +
09 87 Rod Carew *
10 108 Roberto Alomar +
11 120 Ryne Sandberg *
12 140 Bobby Grich
13 154 Ross Barnes
14 160 Lou Whitaker
15 169 Joe Gordon *
16 180 Jeff Kent #
17 188 Billy Herman *
18 210 Bid McPhee *
19 227 Bobby Doerr *
20 248 Hardy Richardson
21 256 Nellie Fox *
22 257 Frank Grant --
23 274 Larry Doyle
24 289 Red Schoendienst *
25 301 Willie Randolph
26 304 Cupid Childs
27 311 Tony Lazzeri *
28 339 Dick McAuliffe
29 375 Bill Mazeroski *
30 377 Johnny Evers *
31 378 Buddy Myer
32 379 Del Pratt
33 394 Fred Dunlap
34 411 Chino Smith ---
35 429 Jim Gilliam
36 442 Julio Franco +
37 448 Bill Monroe ---
38 482 Chuck Knoblauch
39 487 Tony Phillips
40 489 Frank White
41 497 Davey Lopes
Third Basemen
01 16 Mike Schmidt *
02 42 George Brett *
03 45 Eddie Mathews *
04 62 Wade Boggs *
05 83 Frank Baker *
06 92 Chipper Jones #
07 104 Ron Santo
08 134 Paul Molitor *
09 153 Brooks Robinson *
10 159 Jud Wilson --
11 162 Jimmy Collins *
12 193 Edgar Martinez +
13 197 Darrell Evans
14 211 Ezra Sutton
15 212 John Beckwith ---
16 213 Heinie Groh
17 216 Ken Boyer
18 242 Stan Hack
19 245 Pie Traynor *
20 254 Graig Nettles
21 267 Ray Dandridge --
22 268 Tommy Leach
23 282 Bob Elliott
24 295 Scott Rolen #
25 332 Sal Bando
26 336 George Kell *
27 341 Al Rosen
28 343 John McGraw *
29 355 Lave Cross
30 366 Ron Cey
31 373 Buddy Bell
32 393 Robin Ventura +
33 396 Matt Williams
34 424 Ned Williamson
35 426 Levi Meyerle
36 440 Bus Clarkson ---
37 463 Gary Gaetti
38 473 Bill Madlock
39 476 Ollie Marcelle ---
40 483 Bobby Bonilla
41 484 Larry Gardner
42 496 Toby Harrah
43 500 Eddie Yost
Shortstops
01 4 Honus Wagner *
02 26 Alex Rodriguez #
03 37 Pop Lloyd --
04 43 Cal Ripken *
05 51 Arky Vaughan *
06 69 Robin Yount *
07 81 Ernie Banks *
08 94 George Wright *
09 111 Barry Larkin +
10 112 Joe Cronin *
11 117 Alan Trammell
12 122 George Davis *
13 138 Pee Wee Reese *
14 141 Willie Wells --
15 148 Bill Dahlen
16 151 Luke Appling *
17 161 Ozzie Smith *
18 167 Derek Jeter #
19 196 Lou Boudreau *
20 214 John Ward *
21 230 Dickey Pearce
22 234 Bobby Wallace *
23 253 Jack Glasscock
24 264 Hughie Jennings *
25 265 Dobie Moore ---
26 273 Joe Sewell *
27 279 Rabbit Maranville *
28 280 Vern Stephens
29 291 Luis Aparicio *
30 294 Homerun Johnson ---
31 325 Phil Rizzuto *
32 334 Nomar Garciaparra #
33 346 Herman Long
34 357 Dick Lundy ---
35 374 Dave Concepcion
36 400 Johnny Pesky
37 416 Miguel Tejada #
38 418 Jim Fregosi
39 419 Dave Bancroft *
40 434 Omar Vizquel #
41 444 Bert Campaneris
42 453 Tony Fernandez
43 456 Joe Tinker *
44 488 Alvin Dark
45 498 Maury Wills
Left Fielders
01 5 Ted Williams *
02 9 Barry Bonds +
03 11 Stan Musial *
04 38 Turkey Stearnes --
05 40 Rickey Henderson *
06 48 Ed Delahanty *
07 60 Carl Yastrzemski *
08 91 Tim Raines
09 106 Al Simmons *
10 107 Willie Stargell *
11 109 Jesse Burkett *
12 155 Joe Medwick *
13 163 Minnie Minoso
14 164 Fred Clarke *
15 171 Billy Williams *
16 175 Goose Goslin *
17 194 Sherry Magee
18 195 Zack Wheat *
19 208 Ralph Kiner *
20 220 Lou Brock *
21 225 Harry Stovey
22 246 Monte Irvin --
23 249 Jim Rice *
24 260 Albert Belle
25 284 Joe Kelley *
26 309 Jimmy Sheckard
27 319 Tip O'Neill
28 326 Charlie Keller
29 348 Charley Jones
30 350 Bobby Veach
31 352 Heinie Manush *
32 353 Bob Johnson
33 384 Lefty O'Doul
34 404 Frank Howard
35 405 Jose Cruz
36 412 Lance Berkman #
37 417 George J. Burns
38 421 Joe Carter
39 422 Luis Gonzalez #
40 467 George Foster
41 475 Ken Williams
Center Fielders
01 2 Ty Cobb *
02 3 Willie Mays *
03 6 Mickey Mantle *
04 13 Oscar Charleston --
05 17 Tris Speaker *
06 20 Joe DiMaggio *
07 52 Ken Griffey, Jr. #
08 64 Duke Snider *
09 100 Cristobal Torriente --
10 102 Billy Hamilton *
11 119 Cool Papa Bell --
12 127 Paul Hines
13 131 Jim O'Rourke *
14 135 Richie Ashburn *
15 145 Kirby Puckett *
16 156 Larry Doby *
17 186 Max Carey *
18 206 Andre Dawson
19 207 Pete Hill --
20 238 Jim Edmonds #
21 243 Earl Averill *
22 247 George Gore
23 250 Pete Browning
24 251 Jimmy Wynn
25 261 Dale Murphy
26 262 Hugh Duffy *
27 271 Bernie Williams +
28 276 Edd Roush *
29 277 Willard Brown --
30 278 Alejandro Oms ---
31 288 George Van Haltren
32 292 Hack Wilson *
33 305 Lip Pike
34 335 Jimmy Ryan
35 347 Wally Berger
36 363 Fielder Jones
37 365 Al Oliver
38 367 Vada Pinson
39 376 Fred Lynn
40 383 Kenny Lofton +
41 414 Cesar Cedeno
42 427 Brett Butler
43 435 Benny Kauff
44 447 Andruw Jones #
45 466 Amos Otis
46 469 Dummy Hoy
47 480 Dom DiMaggio
48 491 Cy Williams
49 492 Roy Thomas
50 495 Spotswood Poles ---
Right Fielders
01 1 Babe Ruth *
02 7 Hank Aaron *
03 24 Frank Robinson *
04 28 Mel Ott *
05 53 Al Kaline *
06 54 Pete Rose +
07 55 Reggie Jackson *
08 56 Tony Gwynn *
09 65 Sam Crawford *
10 71 Roberto Clemente *
11 85 Martin Dihigo --
12 90 Paul Waner *
13 93 King Kelly *
14 96 Harry Heilmann *
15 125 Joe Jackson +
16 139 Gary Sheffield #
17 143 Dave Winfield *
18 147 Manny Ramirez #
19 165 Sam Thompson *
20 179 Vlad Guerrero #
21 182 Sammy Sosa +
22 185 Enos Slaughter *
23 200 Willie Keeler *
24 219 Elmer Flick *
25 226 Dwight Evans
26 228 Ichiro Suzuki #
27 237 Larry Walker +
28 240 Dave Parker
29 244 Chuck Klein *
30 283 Reggie Smith
31 293 Bobby Bonds
32 297 Jose Canseco
33 300 Gavy Cravath
34 315 Tony Oliva
35 324 Kiki Cuyler *
36 327 Ken Singleton
37 328 Juan Gonzalez +
38 337 Sam Rice *
39 342 Rusty Staub
40 354 Buzz Arlett
41 395 Rocky Colavito
42 409 Harry Hooper *
43 423 Jack Clark
44 439 Harold Baines
45 443 Mike Tiernan
46 452 Darryl Strawberry
47 458 Roger Maris
48 460 Babe Herman
49 478 Paul O'Neill
50 481 Bobby Murcer
51 490 Bobby Abreu #
52 493 Brian Giles #
CURRENT ROTATION OF GAMERS
Round 55:
henrich
dgarza
jjpm74
STLCards2
John Shoemaker
bambambaseball
Freakshow
Erik Bedard
leecemark
ALL PLAYERS LISTED, ALPHABETICALLY (#1 to 100)
(#101-200)
(#201-300)
6 Aparicio, Luis* - 8 Averill, Earl* - 5 Beckwith, John - 7 Belle, Albert - 2 Bennett, Charlie
9 Bonds, Bobby - 5 Boyer, Ken - 2 Bresnahan, Roger* - 1 Bridges, Tommy - 7 Brock, Lou*
1 Brown, Kevin+ - 1 Brown, Ray* - 8 Brown, Willard* - 8 Browning, Pete - 1 Bunning, Jim*
9 Canseco, Jose - 1 Caruthers, Bob - 3 Chance, Frank* - 3 Clark, Will - 9 Cravath, Gavy
5 Dandridge, Ray* - 8 Dawson, Andre - 1 Dean, Dizzy* - 4 Doerr, Bobby* - 4 Doyle, Larry
8 Duffy, Hugh* - 8 Edmonds, Jim# - 5 Elliott, Bob - 9 Evans, Dwight - 1 Faber, Red*
1 Ferrell, Wes - 9 Flick, Elmer* - 1 Foster, Bill* - 4 Fox, Nellie* - 2 Freehan, Bill
1 Galvin, Pud* - 6 Glasscock, Jack - 8 Gore, George - 4 Grant, Frank* - 1 Griffith, Clark*
1 Grimes, Burleigh* - 5 Groh, Heinie - 5 Hack, Stan - 3 Helton, Todd# - 3 Hernandez, Keith
8 Hill, Pete* - 1 Hoffman, Trevor# - 7 Irvin, Monte* - 6 Jennings, Hughie* - 6 Johnson, Homerun
7 Kelley, Joe* - 7 Kiner, Ralph* - 9 Klein, Chuck* - 5 Leach, Tommy - 1 Lemon, Bob*
2 Lombardi, Ernie* - 1 Lyons, Ted* - 2 Mackey, Biz* - 6 Maranville, Rabbit* - 1 Mays, Carl
1 McCormick, Jim - 1 McGinnity, Joe* - 4 McPhee, Bid* - 2 McVey, Cal - 1 Mendez, Jose*
6 Moore, Dobie - 2 Munson, Thurman - 8 Murphy, Dale - 5 Nettles, Graig - 8 Oms, Alejandro
9 Parker, Dave - 6 Pearce, Dickey - 3 Perez, Tony* - 1 Quisenberry, Dan - 7 Rice, Jim
4 Richardson, Hardy - 1 Rixey, Eppa* - 5 Rolen, Scott# - 8 Roush, Edd* - 1 Santana, Johan#
4 Schoendienst, Red* - 6 Sewell, Joe* - 3 Sisler, George* - 9 Smith, Reggie - 1 Spalding, Al*
6 Stephens, Vern - 7 Stovey, Harry - 1 Sutter, Bruce* - 5 Sutton, Ezra - 9 Suzuki, Ichiro#
3 Terry, Bill* - 5 Traynor, Pie* - 8 Van Haltren, George - 9 Walker, Larry+ - 6 Wallace, Bobby*
6 Ward, John* - 8 Williams, Bernie+ - 1 Willis, Vic* - 8 Wilson, Hack* - 8 Wynn, Jimmy
(#301-400)
9 Arlett, Buzz - 5 Bando, Sal - 3 Beckley, Jake* - 5 Bell, Buddy - 1 Bender, Chief*
8 Berger, Wally - 1 Bond, Tommy - 3 Bottomley, Jim* - 3 Cash, Norm - 5 Cey, Ron
4 Childs, Cupid - 9 Colavito, Rocky - 6 Concepcion, Dave - 1 Cone, David - 2 Cooper, Walker
1 Cooper, Wilbur - 1 Creighton, Jim - 5 Cross, Lave - 9 Cuyler, Kiki* - 1 Day, Leon*
4 Dunlap, Fred - 4 Evers, Johnny* - 1 Franco, John+ - 6 Garciaparra, Nomar# - 3 Garvey, Steve
3 Giambi, Jason# - 1 Gomez, Lefty* - 9 Gonzalez, Juan - 1 Guidry, Ron - 3 Hodges, Gil
2 Howard, Elston - 1 Hunter, Catfish* - 1 John, Tommy - 7 Johnson, Bob - 7 Jones, Charley
8 Jones, Fielder - 1 Joss, Addie* - 1 Kaat, Jim - 5 Kell, George* - 7 Keller, Charlie
4 Lazzeri, Tony* - 8 Lofton, Kenny+ - 6 Long, Herman - 6 Lundy, Dick - 1 Luque, Dolf
8 Lynn, Fred - 7 Manush, Heinie* - 3 Mattingly, Don - 4 Mazeroski, Bill* - 4 McAuliffe, Dick
5 McGraw, John* - 2 McGuire, Deacon - 1 Morris, Jack - 1 Mullane, Tony - 4 Myer, Buddy
1 Newcombe, Don - 7 O'Doul, Lefty - 3 Olerud, John+ - 9 Oliva, Tony - 8 Oliver, Al
7 O'Neill, Tip - 2 Parrish, Lance - 1 Pennock, Herb* - 6 Pesky, Johnny - 1 Pierce, Billy
8 Pike, Lip - 8 Pinson, Vada - 2 Posada, Jorge# - 3 Powell, Boog - 4 Pratt, Del
4 Randolph, Willie - 1 Redding, Dick - 1 Reuschel, Rick - 9 Rice, Sam* - 6 Rizzuto, Phil*
5 Rosen, Al - 8 Ryan, Jimmy - 1 Saberhagen, Bret - 2 Schalk, Ray* - 2 Schang, Wally
7 Sheckard, Jimmy - 1 Shocker, Urban - 9 Singleton, Ken - 1 Smith, Hilton* - 1 Smith, Lee
9 Staub, Rusty - 1 Stieb, Dave - 3 Taylor, Ben* - 1 Tekulve, Kent - 2 Tenace, Gene
1 Tiant, Luis - 2 Trouppe, Quincy - 7 Veach, Bobby - 5 Ventura, Robin+ - 3 Vernon, Mickey
1 Wagner, Billy# - 1 Walters, Bucky - 1 Warneke, Lon - 1 Welch, Mickey* - 5 Williams, Matt
(#401-500)
9 Abreu, Bobby#
1 Adams, Babe
1 Appier, Kevin
9 Baines, Harold
6 Bancroft, Dave*
7 Berkman, Lance#
1 Blue, Vida
3 Bonilla, Bobby
2 Boone, Bob
1 Brecheen, Harry
7 Burns, George J.
8 Butler, Brett
3 Camilli, Dolph
6 Campaneris, Bert
7 Carter, Joe
8 Cedeno, Cesar
1 Cicotte, Eddie+
9 Clark, Jack
5 Clarkson, Bus
1 Cooper, Andy*
7 Cruz, Jose
6 Dark, Alvin
2 Daulton, Darren
8 DiMaggio, Dom
3 Easter, Luke
2 Farrell, Duke
6 Fernandez, Tony
1 Finley, Chuck
7 Foster, George
3 Fournier, Jack
4 Franco, Julio+
6 Fregosi, Jim
5 Gaetti, Gary
3 Galarraga, Andres+
5 Gardner, Larry
9 Giles, Brian#
4 Gilliam, Jim
7 Gonzalez, Luis#
3 Grace, Mark
1 Hahn, Noodles
1 Halladay, Roy#
5 Harrah, Toby
1 Henke, Tom
9 Herman, Babe
1 Hershiser, Orel
1 Hiller, John
9 Hooper, Harry*
7 Howard, Frank
8 Hoy, Dummy
1 Hoyt, Waite*
1 Jackman, Bill
8 Jones, Andruw#
8 Kauff, Benny
1 King, Silver
2 Kling, Johnny
4 Knoblauch, Chuck
3 Konetchy, Ed
1 Koosman, Jerry
1 Leonard, Dutch
1 Lolich, Mickey
4 Lopes, Davey
1 Lyle, Sparky
5 Madlock, Bill
1 Marberry, Firpo
5 Marcelle, Ollie
9 Maris, Roger
5 Meyerle, Levi
4 Monroe, Bill
9 Murcer, Bobby
9 O'Neill, Paul
3 Ortiz, David#
1 Oswalt, Roy#
8 Otis, Amos
4 Phillips, Tony
8 Poles, Spot
2 Porter, Darrell
1 Quinn, Jack
2 Radcliffe, Ted
1 Reynolds, Allie
4 Smith, Chino
9 Strawberry, Darryl
2 Sundberg, Jim
1 Tanana, Frank
6 Tejada, Miguel#
8 Thomas, Roy
9 Tiernan, Mike
6 Tinker, Joe*
1 Trout, Dizzy
1 Trucks, Virgil
1 Vaughn, Hippo
6 Vizquel, Omar#
1 Webb, Brandon#
1 Wetteland, John
4 White, Frank
8 Williams, Cy
7 Williams, Ken
5 Williamson, Ned
6 Wills, Maury
1 Wood, Joe
5 Yost, Eddie
* = hall of famer
# = active in 2008
+ = ineligible for HOF
The basic idea is we rank every player in history, taking turns listing the next name.
It would help if you already have a system in place for assessing hundreds of players. Well, I would hope at least 300, to capture every HOF-caliber player.
We’ve established a rotation of Gamers, arranging the names alphabetically to start with. The current rotation is listed in this post. Anyone who wants to join in and play is welcome; your name will be placed at the bottom of the rotation, so wait until it’s your turn to list a player. If you want to quit the game at any time, just let us know and we’ll take your name off the rotation. Periodically, we’ll reorder the rotation.
We’ll use Hall of Fame criteria for ranking players, so everything counts (character, managing, their overall contribution). Active players will be included, but they should be ranked on their value to date, not projecting them to how you think they will end up. Negro leaguers will be included. Japanese league stars with less than four years in MLB will not be included.
Players whose primary contribution was non-playing (McGraw, Griffith, Torre, etc.) will be ranked only on consideration of their playing career, not their total contribution.
Gamers have three options:
1) Add a player - Pretty simple, just recopy the list, adding your guy at the bottom. Doing this means you’re OK with the previous two players listed. A brief justification for your player is a good thing to include, but not required. Place the statement, “[Gamer X] is now on the clock” to signify the end of your turn. More about “on the clock” later.
2) Remove a player – You may remove one of the last two names on the list, adding your player at the bottom. After your player’s name, place this statement in parentheses: “sorry, I had to remove [player X] – Xth time”. (The same player can be removed up to a maximum of three times; after that he stays put the fourth time he is listed. A player may be listed a maximum of three times by the same Gamer.) Then place the “clock” statement to end your turn.
3) Reinstate and add – Before listing your player you can list the name of a player who was Removed in the previous turn. After the reinstated player’s name, place the word “reinstated” in parentheses. (You may not Reinstate and Remove in the same turn.) Then place the “clock” statement to end your turn.
On The Clock – A Gamer ends his official turn with the statement “[Gamer X] is now on the clock”. Gamer X has to wait at least an hour before he may post his official turn. This delay is to encourage discussion and feedback from the other Gamers as to the previous turn, as well as discussing the upcoming pick. They can try to persuade Gamer X to play his turn in a certain way. If Gamer X posts his turn early (<57 minutes after the previous turn) one of the other Gamers must alert him that he posted too early, that his turn is not official. In this case, after the required hour has passed Gamer X must make a post to reaffirm his turn or it will not count.
Unexcused Absence - Gamer X forfeits his turn if he has not posted his official turn (or reaffirmed his turn if posted too early) within 24 hours of being On the Clock. One of the Gamers should alert the Gamer following Gamer X that he is now On the Clock. Gamer X will be placed at the end of the round, if he requests to stay in the game; otherwise he will have no turn this round. This counts as an Unexcused Absence. After two consecutive Unexcused Absences or four overall, a Gamer will be allowed only a 12-hour clock for his turn. (It would be helpful if, when a Gamer is near to having his Clock expire (say, less than four hours to go) if the following gamer sent him a reminder via PM.)
Excused Absence - If Gamer X knows he will be away from the game, he should make this known to the other Gamers before his turn comes up. This way, everyone knows to skip him and put the next Gamer on the Clock. Gamer X will be moved to the end of the current rotation if he requests it; otherwise we’ll simply skip his turn. This eliminates having the game on hold for 24 hours, keeping things moving.
So, each name will have to pass the scrutiny of at least two other voters before it becomes permanent. We’re collaborating to, hopefully, produce a better ranking than any one of us could produce on our own.
In actual play, I would hope that the Remove option would only be used for players you think are listed significantly early, and not to replace guys you have coming up soon in your queue anyway. See the introductory thread for an example of the sequence of play.
Above all, we should maintain a spirit of cooperation. We’re working together to produce the very best rankings that we can. Discussion is encouraged here! We seek to enlighten others, relying on the force of our evidence more than our rhetoric. We hope that all Gamers will engage in a civil discourse that has become the hallmark of this forum.
Pitchers -
1 8 Walter Johnson *
2 15 Lefty Grove *
3 18 Greg Maddux #
4 21 Roger Clemens +
5 23 Cy Young *
6 27 Pete Alexander *
7 31 Christy Mathewson *
8 34 Tom Seaver *
9 35 Satchel Paige --
10 41 Warren Spahn *
11 44 Randy Johnson #
12 46 Steve Carlton *
13 50 Kid Nichols *
14 58 Bob Feller *
15 59 Smokey Joe Williams --
16 66 Bob Gibson *
17 67 Pedro Martinez #
18 74 Carl Hubbell *
19 75 Nolan Ryan *
20 78 Sandy Koufax *
21 84 Robin Roberts *
22 88 Eddie Plank *
23 89 Jim Palmer *
24 95 Bert Blyleven
25 103 Gaylord Perry *
26 105 Ed Walsh *
28 114 Phil Niekro *
29 116 Tim Keefe *
30 118 Mordecai Brown *
31 123 Whitey Ford *
32 126 Juan Marichal *
33 128 Dazzy Vance *
34 129 Bullet Joe Rogan --
36 136 John Clarkson *
37 142 Hal Newhouser *
39 149 Fergie Jenkins *
40 150 Tom Glavine #
41 152 Don Sutton *
42 166 Amos Rusie *
43 172 Curt Schilling +
44 173 John Smoltz #
45 174 Charley Radbourn *
46 176 Rube Foster --
47 177 Mike Mussina #
50 183 Rube Waddell *
51 184 Red Ruffing *
52 187 Don Drysdale *
53 190 Stan Coveleski *
54 192 Early Wynn *
55 201 Ray Brown --
56 202 Jim Bunning *
57 203 Al Spalding *
58 204 Ted Lyons *
59 205 Eppa Rixey *
60 215 Wes Ferrell
61 218 Bill Foster --
62 222 Kevin Brown +
63 223 Joe McGinnity *
64 224 Pud Galvin *
65 229 Dizzy Dean *
66 231 Red Faber *
67 239 Jose Mendez --
68 252 Bob Lemon *
70 259 Clark Griffith *
71 263 Bob Caruthers
72 269 Vic Willis *
74 272 Johan Santana #
76 287 Jim McCormick
77 290 Tommy Bridges
78 296 Carl Mays
79 299 Burleigh Grimes *
80 306 Addie Joss *
81 307 Mickey Welch *
82 308 Billy Pierce
83 310 Dave Stieb
84 312 Tony Mullane
85 313 Urban Shocker
86 316 Tommy John
87 318 Hilton Smith --
88 321 Wilbur Cooper
89 323 Bret Saberhagen
90 330 Dick Redding ---
91 338 Luis Tiant
92 340 Ron Guidry
93 344 Bucky Walters
94 345 Jack Morris
95 349 Lefty Gomez *
97 358 Leon Day --
98 359 Jim Creighton
100 361 David Cone
102 364 Jim Kaat
103 368 Herb Pennock *
104 369 Catfish Hunter *
105 370 Chief Bender *
106 372 Rick Reuschel
107 381 Tommy Bond
108 382 Don Newcombe
109 386 Lon Warneke
111 399 Dolf Luque
112 402 Eddie Cicotte +
113 403 Waite Hoyt *
114 406 Frank Tanana
116 410 Roy Oswalt #
117 415 Dutch Leonard
118 428 Mickey Lolich
119 431 Jerry Koosman
120 432 Bill Jackman ---
121 436 Orel Hershiser
122 437 Roy Halladay #
124 441 Hippo Vaughn
125 449 Dizzy Trout
128 454 Jack Quinn
130 457 Brandon Webb #
131 459 Vida Blue
132 462 Kevin Appier
133 464 Andy Cooper --
134 465 Noodles Hahn
135 468 Silver King
136 470 Virgil Trucks
137 471 Chuck Finley
138 474 Allie Reynolds
139 477 Harry Brecheen
140 479 Smoky Joe Wood
141 485 Babe Adams
Relief Pitchers
27 113 Mariano Rivera #
35 133 Dennis Eckersley *
38 146 Hoyt Wilhelm *
48 178 Rich Gossage *
49 181 Rollie Fingers *
69 258 Bruce Sutter *
73 270 Trevor Hoffman #
75 281 Dan Quisenberry
96 356 Billy Wagner #
99 360 Kent Tekulve
101 362 Lee Smith
110 388 John Franco +
115 408 Firpo Marberry
123 438 John Hiller
126 450 John Wetteland
127 451 Tom Henke
129 455 Sparky Lyle
Catchers
01 10 Josh Gibson --
02 25 Yogi Berra *
03 30 Johnny Bench *
04 49 Mike Piazza +
05 61 Mickey Cochrane *
06 77 Roy Campanella *
07 79 Buck Ewing *
08 98 Ivan Rodriguez #
09 99 Gary Carter *
10 101 Carlton Fisk *
11 124 Bill Dickey *
12 130 Gabby Hartnett *
13 132 Deacon White
14 157 Louis Santop --
15 170 Ted Simmons
16 189 Joe Torre
17 221 Bill Freehan
18 235 Charlie Bennett
19 236 Roger Bresnahan *
20 266 Cal McVey
21 275 Thurman Munson
22 285 Biz Mackey --
23 298 Ernie Lombardi *
24 303 Elston Howard
25 317 Quincy Trouppe ---
26 320 Lance Parrish
27 331 Wally Schang
28 380 Jorge Posada #
29 385 Deacon McGuire
30 387 Gene Tenace
31 390 Walker Cooper
32 392 Ray Schalk *
33 401 Darrell Porter
34 407 Bob Boone
35 420 Ted Radcliffe ---
36 433 Duke Farrell
37 446 Jim Sundberg
38 461 Johnny Kling
39 494 Darren Daulton
First Basemen
01 12 Lou Gehrig *
02 22 Jimmie Foxx *
03 33 Cap Anson *
04 39 Dan Brouthers *
05 47 Hank Greenberg *
06 68 Frank Thomas #
07 70 Johnny Mize *
08 73 Jeff Bagwell +
09 76 Buck Leonard --
10 80 Harmon Killebrew *
11 82 Eddie Murray *
12 86 Willie McCovey *
13 97 Roger Connor *
14 110 Mule Suttles --
15 115 Mark McGwire
16 121 Albert Pujols #
17 137 Dick Allen
18 144 Rafael Palmeiro +
19 158 Jim Thome #
20 168 Joe Start
21 191 Fred McGriff +
22 198 Orlando Cepeda *
23 199 Carlos Delgado #
24 209 Tony Perez *
25 217 George Sisler *
26 232 Keith Hernandez
27 233 Will Clark
28 241 Bill Terry *
29 255 Todd Helton #
30 286 Frank Chance *
31 302 Steve Garvey
32 314 Jake Beckley *
33 322 Don Mattingly
34 329 Norm Cash
35 333 Gil Hodges
36 351 Jim Bottomley *
37 371 John Olerud +
38 389 Mickey Vernon
39 391 Boog Powell
40 397 Jason Giambi #
41 398 Ben Taylor --
42 413 Mark Grace
43 425 Andres Galarraga +
44 430 David Ortiz #
45 445 Jack Fournier
46 472 Ed Konetchy
47 486 Luke Easter ---
48 499 Dolph Camilli
Second Basemen
01 14 Rogers Hornsby *
02 19 Eddie Collins *
03 29 Nap Lajoie *
04 32 Joe Morgan *
05 36 Jackie Robinson *
06 57 Charlie Gehringer *
07 63 Frankie Frisch *
08 72 Craig Biggio +
09 87 Rod Carew *
10 108 Roberto Alomar +
11 120 Ryne Sandberg *
12 140 Bobby Grich
13 154 Ross Barnes
14 160 Lou Whitaker
15 169 Joe Gordon *
16 180 Jeff Kent #
17 188 Billy Herman *
18 210 Bid McPhee *
19 227 Bobby Doerr *
20 248 Hardy Richardson
21 256 Nellie Fox *
22 257 Frank Grant --
23 274 Larry Doyle
24 289 Red Schoendienst *
25 301 Willie Randolph
26 304 Cupid Childs
27 311 Tony Lazzeri *
28 339 Dick McAuliffe
29 375 Bill Mazeroski *
30 377 Johnny Evers *
31 378 Buddy Myer
32 379 Del Pratt
33 394 Fred Dunlap
34 411 Chino Smith ---
35 429 Jim Gilliam
36 442 Julio Franco +
37 448 Bill Monroe ---
38 482 Chuck Knoblauch
39 487 Tony Phillips
40 489 Frank White
41 497 Davey Lopes
Third Basemen
01 16 Mike Schmidt *
02 42 George Brett *
03 45 Eddie Mathews *
04 62 Wade Boggs *
05 83 Frank Baker *
06 92 Chipper Jones #
07 104 Ron Santo
08 134 Paul Molitor *
09 153 Brooks Robinson *
10 159 Jud Wilson --
11 162 Jimmy Collins *
12 193 Edgar Martinez +
13 197 Darrell Evans
14 211 Ezra Sutton
15 212 John Beckwith ---
16 213 Heinie Groh
17 216 Ken Boyer
18 242 Stan Hack
19 245 Pie Traynor *
20 254 Graig Nettles
21 267 Ray Dandridge --
22 268 Tommy Leach
23 282 Bob Elliott
24 295 Scott Rolen #
25 332 Sal Bando
26 336 George Kell *
27 341 Al Rosen
28 343 John McGraw *
29 355 Lave Cross
30 366 Ron Cey
31 373 Buddy Bell
32 393 Robin Ventura +
33 396 Matt Williams
34 424 Ned Williamson
35 426 Levi Meyerle
36 440 Bus Clarkson ---
37 463 Gary Gaetti
38 473 Bill Madlock
39 476 Ollie Marcelle ---
40 483 Bobby Bonilla
41 484 Larry Gardner
42 496 Toby Harrah
43 500 Eddie Yost
Shortstops
01 4 Honus Wagner *
02 26 Alex Rodriguez #
03 37 Pop Lloyd --
04 43 Cal Ripken *
05 51 Arky Vaughan *
06 69 Robin Yount *
07 81 Ernie Banks *
08 94 George Wright *
09 111 Barry Larkin +
10 112 Joe Cronin *
11 117 Alan Trammell
12 122 George Davis *
13 138 Pee Wee Reese *
14 141 Willie Wells --
15 148 Bill Dahlen
16 151 Luke Appling *
17 161 Ozzie Smith *
18 167 Derek Jeter #
19 196 Lou Boudreau *
20 214 John Ward *
21 230 Dickey Pearce
22 234 Bobby Wallace *
23 253 Jack Glasscock
24 264 Hughie Jennings *
25 265 Dobie Moore ---
26 273 Joe Sewell *
27 279 Rabbit Maranville *
28 280 Vern Stephens
29 291 Luis Aparicio *
30 294 Homerun Johnson ---
31 325 Phil Rizzuto *
32 334 Nomar Garciaparra #
33 346 Herman Long
34 357 Dick Lundy ---
35 374 Dave Concepcion
36 400 Johnny Pesky
37 416 Miguel Tejada #
38 418 Jim Fregosi
39 419 Dave Bancroft *
40 434 Omar Vizquel #
41 444 Bert Campaneris
42 453 Tony Fernandez
43 456 Joe Tinker *
44 488 Alvin Dark
45 498 Maury Wills
Left Fielders
01 5 Ted Williams *
02 9 Barry Bonds +
03 11 Stan Musial *
04 38 Turkey Stearnes --
05 40 Rickey Henderson *
06 48 Ed Delahanty *
07 60 Carl Yastrzemski *
08 91 Tim Raines
09 106 Al Simmons *
10 107 Willie Stargell *
11 109 Jesse Burkett *
12 155 Joe Medwick *
13 163 Minnie Minoso
14 164 Fred Clarke *
15 171 Billy Williams *
16 175 Goose Goslin *
17 194 Sherry Magee
18 195 Zack Wheat *
19 208 Ralph Kiner *
20 220 Lou Brock *
21 225 Harry Stovey
22 246 Monte Irvin --
23 249 Jim Rice *
24 260 Albert Belle
25 284 Joe Kelley *
26 309 Jimmy Sheckard
27 319 Tip O'Neill
28 326 Charlie Keller
29 348 Charley Jones
30 350 Bobby Veach
31 352 Heinie Manush *
32 353 Bob Johnson
33 384 Lefty O'Doul
34 404 Frank Howard
35 405 Jose Cruz
36 412 Lance Berkman #
37 417 George J. Burns
38 421 Joe Carter
39 422 Luis Gonzalez #
40 467 George Foster
41 475 Ken Williams
Center Fielders
01 2 Ty Cobb *
02 3 Willie Mays *
03 6 Mickey Mantle *
04 13 Oscar Charleston --
05 17 Tris Speaker *
06 20 Joe DiMaggio *
07 52 Ken Griffey, Jr. #
08 64 Duke Snider *
09 100 Cristobal Torriente --
10 102 Billy Hamilton *
11 119 Cool Papa Bell --
12 127 Paul Hines
13 131 Jim O'Rourke *
14 135 Richie Ashburn *
15 145 Kirby Puckett *
16 156 Larry Doby *
17 186 Max Carey *
18 206 Andre Dawson
19 207 Pete Hill --
20 238 Jim Edmonds #
21 243 Earl Averill *
22 247 George Gore
23 250 Pete Browning
24 251 Jimmy Wynn
25 261 Dale Murphy
26 262 Hugh Duffy *
27 271 Bernie Williams +
28 276 Edd Roush *
29 277 Willard Brown --
30 278 Alejandro Oms ---
31 288 George Van Haltren
32 292 Hack Wilson *
33 305 Lip Pike
34 335 Jimmy Ryan
35 347 Wally Berger
36 363 Fielder Jones
37 365 Al Oliver
38 367 Vada Pinson
39 376 Fred Lynn
40 383 Kenny Lofton +
41 414 Cesar Cedeno
42 427 Brett Butler
43 435 Benny Kauff
44 447 Andruw Jones #
45 466 Amos Otis
46 469 Dummy Hoy
47 480 Dom DiMaggio
48 491 Cy Williams
49 492 Roy Thomas
50 495 Spotswood Poles ---
Right Fielders
01 1 Babe Ruth *
02 7 Hank Aaron *
03 24 Frank Robinson *
04 28 Mel Ott *
05 53 Al Kaline *
06 54 Pete Rose +
07 55 Reggie Jackson *
08 56 Tony Gwynn *
09 65 Sam Crawford *
10 71 Roberto Clemente *
11 85 Martin Dihigo --
12 90 Paul Waner *
13 93 King Kelly *
14 96 Harry Heilmann *
15 125 Joe Jackson +
16 139 Gary Sheffield #
17 143 Dave Winfield *
18 147 Manny Ramirez #
19 165 Sam Thompson *
20 179 Vlad Guerrero #
21 182 Sammy Sosa +
22 185 Enos Slaughter *
23 200 Willie Keeler *
24 219 Elmer Flick *
25 226 Dwight Evans
26 228 Ichiro Suzuki #
27 237 Larry Walker +
28 240 Dave Parker
29 244 Chuck Klein *
30 283 Reggie Smith
31 293 Bobby Bonds
32 297 Jose Canseco
33 300 Gavy Cravath
34 315 Tony Oliva
35 324 Kiki Cuyler *
36 327 Ken Singleton
37 328 Juan Gonzalez +
38 337 Sam Rice *
39 342 Rusty Staub
40 354 Buzz Arlett
41 395 Rocky Colavito
42 409 Harry Hooper *
43 423 Jack Clark
44 439 Harold Baines
45 443 Mike Tiernan
46 452 Darryl Strawberry
47 458 Roger Maris
48 460 Babe Herman
49 478 Paul O'Neill
50 481 Bobby Murcer
51 490 Bobby Abreu #
52 493 Brian Giles #
CURRENT ROTATION OF GAMERS
Round 55:
henrich
dgarza
jjpm74
STLCards2
John Shoemaker
bambambaseball
Freakshow
Erik Bedard
leecemark
ALL PLAYERS LISTED, ALPHABETICALLY (#1 to 100)
Code:
9 Aaron, Hank* 1 Alexander, Pete* 3 Anson, Cap* 3 Bagwell, Jeff+ 5 Baker, Frank* 6 Banks, Ernie* 2 Bench, Johnny* 2 Berra, Yogi* 4 Biggio, Craig+ 1 Blyleven, Bert 5 Boggs, Wade* 7 Bonds, Barry+ 5 Brett, George* 3 Brouthers, Dan* 2 Campanella, Roy* 4 Carew, Rod* 1 Carlton, Steve* 2 Carter, Gary* 8 Charleston, Oscar* 1 Clemens, Roger+ 9 Clemente, Rob* 8 Cobb, Ty* 2 Cochrane, Mickey* 4 Collins, Eddie* 3 Connor, Roger* 9 Crawford, Sam* 7 Delahanty, Ed* 9 Dihigo, Martin* 8 DiMaggio, Joe* 2 Ewing, Buck* 1 Feller, Bob* 3 Foxx, Jimmie* 4 Frisch, Frankie* 3 Gehrig, Lou* 4 Gehringer, Charlie* 1 Gibson, Bob* 2 Gibson, Josh* 3 Greenberg, Hank* 8 Griffey, Jr, Ken# 1 Grove, Lefty* 9 Gwynn, Tony* 9 Heilmann, Harry* 7 Henderson, Rickey+ 4 Hornsby, Rogers* 1 Hubbell, Carl* 9 Jackson, Reg* 1 Johnson, Randy# 1 Johnson Walter* 5 Jones, Chipper# 9 Kaline, Al* 9 Kelly, King* 3 Killebrew, Harmon* 1 Koufax, Sandy* 4 Lajoie, Nap* 3 Leonard, Buck* 6 Lloyd, Pop* 1 Maddux, Greg# 8 Mantle, Mickey* 1 Martinez, Pedro# 5 Mathews, Eddie* 1 Mathewson, Chr*8 Mays, Willie* 3 McCovey, Willie* 3 Mize, Johnny* 4 Morgan, Joe* 3 Murray, Eddie* 7 Musial, Stan* 1 Nichols, Kid* 9 Ott, Mel* 1 Paige, Satchel* 1 Palmer, Jim* 2 Piazza, Mike+ 1 Plank, Ed* 7 Raines, Tim 6 Ripken, Cal* 1 Roberts, Robin*9 Robinson, Frank* 4 Robinson, Jackie* 6 Rodriguez, Alex# 2 Rodriguez, Ivan# 9 Rose, Pete+ 9 Ruth, Babe* 1 Ryan, Nolan* 5 Schmidt, Mike* 1 Seaver, Tom* 8 Snider, Duke* 1 Spahn, Warren* 8 Speaker, Tris* 8 Stearnes, Turkey* 3 Thomas, Frank# 8 Torriente, Cri*6 Vaughan, Arky* 6 Wagner, Honus* 9 Waner, Paul* 1 Williams, Joe* 7 Williams, Ted* 6 Wright, George* 7 Yastrzemski, Carl* 1 Young, Cy* 6 Yount, Robin*
Code:
3 Allen, Dick 2 Alomar, Roberto+ 6 Appling, Luke* 8 Ashburn, Richie* 4 Barnes, Ross 8 Bell, Cool Pa* 6 Boudreau, Lou* 1 Brown, Mordecai* 7 Burkett, Jesse* 8 Carey, Max* 3 Cepeda, Orlan* 7 Clarke, Fred* 1 Clarkson, John* 5 Collins, Jimmy* 1 Coveleski, Stan* 6 Cronin, Joe* 6 Dahlen, Bill 6 Davis, George* 3 Delgado, Carlos# 2 Dickey, Bill* 8 Doby, Larry* 1 Drysdale, Don* 1 Eckersley, Dennis* 5 Evans, Darrell 1 Fingers, Rollie* 2 Fisk, Carlton* 1 Ford, Whitey* 1 Foster, Rube* 1 Glavine, Tom# 4 Gordon, Joe 7 Goslin, Goose* 1 Gossage, Rich* 4 Grich, Bobby 9 Guerrero, Vlad# 8 Hamilton, Billy* 2 Hartnett, Gab* 4 Herman, Billy* 8 Hines, Paul 9 Jackson, Joe+ 1 Jenkins, Fergie* 6 Jeter, Derek# 1 Keefe, Tim* 9 Keeler, Willie* 4 Kent, Jeff# 6 Larkin, Barry+ 7 Magee, Sherry 1 Marichal, Juan* 5 Martinez, Edgar+ 3 McGriff, Fred+ 3 McGwire, Mark 7 Medwick, Joe* 7 Minoso, Minnie 5 Molitor, Paul* 1 Mussina, Mike# 1 Newhouser, Hal* 1 Niekro, Phil* 8 O’Rourke, Jim* 3 Palmeiro, Rafael+ 1 Perry, Gaylord* 8 Puckett, Kirby* 3 Pujols, Albert#1 Radbourn, Charley* 9 Ramirez, Manny# 6 Reese, Pee Wee* 1 Rivera, Mariano# 5 Robinson, Bro* 1 Rogan, Joe* 1 Ruffing, Red* 1 Rusie, Amos* 4 Sandberg, Ryne* 5 Santo, Ron 2 Santop, Louis* 1 Schilling, Curt+ 9 Sheffield, Gary# 7 Simmons, Al* 2 Simmons, Ted 9 Slaughter, Enos* 6 Smith, Ozzie* 1 Smoltz, John# 9 Sosa, Sammy+ 7 Stargell, Will*3 Start, Joe 3 Suttles, Mule* 1 Sutton, Don* 3 Thome, Jim# 9 Thompson, Sam* 2 Torre, Joe 6 Trammell, Alan 1 Vance, Dazzy* 1 Waddell, Rube* 1 Walsh, Ed* 6 Wells, Willie* 7 Wheat, Zack* 4 Whitaker, Lou 2 White, Deacon 1 Wilhelm, Hoyt* 7 Williams, Billy* 5 Wilson, Jud* 9 Winfield, Dave* 1 Wynn, Early*
6 Aparicio, Luis* - 8 Averill, Earl* - 5 Beckwith, John - 7 Belle, Albert - 2 Bennett, Charlie
9 Bonds, Bobby - 5 Boyer, Ken - 2 Bresnahan, Roger* - 1 Bridges, Tommy - 7 Brock, Lou*
1 Brown, Kevin+ - 1 Brown, Ray* - 8 Brown, Willard* - 8 Browning, Pete - 1 Bunning, Jim*
9 Canseco, Jose - 1 Caruthers, Bob - 3 Chance, Frank* - 3 Clark, Will - 9 Cravath, Gavy
5 Dandridge, Ray* - 8 Dawson, Andre - 1 Dean, Dizzy* - 4 Doerr, Bobby* - 4 Doyle, Larry
8 Duffy, Hugh* - 8 Edmonds, Jim# - 5 Elliott, Bob - 9 Evans, Dwight - 1 Faber, Red*
1 Ferrell, Wes - 9 Flick, Elmer* - 1 Foster, Bill* - 4 Fox, Nellie* - 2 Freehan, Bill
1 Galvin, Pud* - 6 Glasscock, Jack - 8 Gore, George - 4 Grant, Frank* - 1 Griffith, Clark*
1 Grimes, Burleigh* - 5 Groh, Heinie - 5 Hack, Stan - 3 Helton, Todd# - 3 Hernandez, Keith
8 Hill, Pete* - 1 Hoffman, Trevor# - 7 Irvin, Monte* - 6 Jennings, Hughie* - 6 Johnson, Homerun
7 Kelley, Joe* - 7 Kiner, Ralph* - 9 Klein, Chuck* - 5 Leach, Tommy - 1 Lemon, Bob*
2 Lombardi, Ernie* - 1 Lyons, Ted* - 2 Mackey, Biz* - 6 Maranville, Rabbit* - 1 Mays, Carl
1 McCormick, Jim - 1 McGinnity, Joe* - 4 McPhee, Bid* - 2 McVey, Cal - 1 Mendez, Jose*
6 Moore, Dobie - 2 Munson, Thurman - 8 Murphy, Dale - 5 Nettles, Graig - 8 Oms, Alejandro
9 Parker, Dave - 6 Pearce, Dickey - 3 Perez, Tony* - 1 Quisenberry, Dan - 7 Rice, Jim
4 Richardson, Hardy - 1 Rixey, Eppa* - 5 Rolen, Scott# - 8 Roush, Edd* - 1 Santana, Johan#
4 Schoendienst, Red* - 6 Sewell, Joe* - 3 Sisler, George* - 9 Smith, Reggie - 1 Spalding, Al*
6 Stephens, Vern - 7 Stovey, Harry - 1 Sutter, Bruce* - 5 Sutton, Ezra - 9 Suzuki, Ichiro#
3 Terry, Bill* - 5 Traynor, Pie* - 8 Van Haltren, George - 9 Walker, Larry+ - 6 Wallace, Bobby*
6 Ward, John* - 8 Williams, Bernie+ - 1 Willis, Vic* - 8 Wilson, Hack* - 8 Wynn, Jimmy
(#301-400)
9 Arlett, Buzz - 5 Bando, Sal - 3 Beckley, Jake* - 5 Bell, Buddy - 1 Bender, Chief*
8 Berger, Wally - 1 Bond, Tommy - 3 Bottomley, Jim* - 3 Cash, Norm - 5 Cey, Ron
4 Childs, Cupid - 9 Colavito, Rocky - 6 Concepcion, Dave - 1 Cone, David - 2 Cooper, Walker
1 Cooper, Wilbur - 1 Creighton, Jim - 5 Cross, Lave - 9 Cuyler, Kiki* - 1 Day, Leon*
4 Dunlap, Fred - 4 Evers, Johnny* - 1 Franco, John+ - 6 Garciaparra, Nomar# - 3 Garvey, Steve
3 Giambi, Jason# - 1 Gomez, Lefty* - 9 Gonzalez, Juan - 1 Guidry, Ron - 3 Hodges, Gil
2 Howard, Elston - 1 Hunter, Catfish* - 1 John, Tommy - 7 Johnson, Bob - 7 Jones, Charley
8 Jones, Fielder - 1 Joss, Addie* - 1 Kaat, Jim - 5 Kell, George* - 7 Keller, Charlie
4 Lazzeri, Tony* - 8 Lofton, Kenny+ - 6 Long, Herman - 6 Lundy, Dick - 1 Luque, Dolf
8 Lynn, Fred - 7 Manush, Heinie* - 3 Mattingly, Don - 4 Mazeroski, Bill* - 4 McAuliffe, Dick
5 McGraw, John* - 2 McGuire, Deacon - 1 Morris, Jack - 1 Mullane, Tony - 4 Myer, Buddy
1 Newcombe, Don - 7 O'Doul, Lefty - 3 Olerud, John+ - 9 Oliva, Tony - 8 Oliver, Al
7 O'Neill, Tip - 2 Parrish, Lance - 1 Pennock, Herb* - 6 Pesky, Johnny - 1 Pierce, Billy
8 Pike, Lip - 8 Pinson, Vada - 2 Posada, Jorge# - 3 Powell, Boog - 4 Pratt, Del
4 Randolph, Willie - 1 Redding, Dick - 1 Reuschel, Rick - 9 Rice, Sam* - 6 Rizzuto, Phil*
5 Rosen, Al - 8 Ryan, Jimmy - 1 Saberhagen, Bret - 2 Schalk, Ray* - 2 Schang, Wally
7 Sheckard, Jimmy - 1 Shocker, Urban - 9 Singleton, Ken - 1 Smith, Hilton* - 1 Smith, Lee
9 Staub, Rusty - 1 Stieb, Dave - 3 Taylor, Ben* - 1 Tekulve, Kent - 2 Tenace, Gene
1 Tiant, Luis - 2 Trouppe, Quincy - 7 Veach, Bobby - 5 Ventura, Robin+ - 3 Vernon, Mickey
1 Wagner, Billy# - 1 Walters, Bucky - 1 Warneke, Lon - 1 Welch, Mickey* - 5 Williams, Matt
(#401-500)
9 Abreu, Bobby#
1 Adams, Babe
1 Appier, Kevin
9 Baines, Harold
6 Bancroft, Dave*
7 Berkman, Lance#
1 Blue, Vida
3 Bonilla, Bobby
2 Boone, Bob
1 Brecheen, Harry
7 Burns, George J.
8 Butler, Brett
3 Camilli, Dolph
6 Campaneris, Bert
7 Carter, Joe
8 Cedeno, Cesar
1 Cicotte, Eddie+
9 Clark, Jack
5 Clarkson, Bus
1 Cooper, Andy*
7 Cruz, Jose
6 Dark, Alvin
2 Daulton, Darren
8 DiMaggio, Dom
3 Easter, Luke
2 Farrell, Duke
6 Fernandez, Tony
1 Finley, Chuck
7 Foster, George
3 Fournier, Jack
4 Franco, Julio+
6 Fregosi, Jim
5 Gaetti, Gary
3 Galarraga, Andres+
5 Gardner, Larry
9 Giles, Brian#
4 Gilliam, Jim
7 Gonzalez, Luis#
3 Grace, Mark
1 Hahn, Noodles
1 Halladay, Roy#
5 Harrah, Toby
1 Henke, Tom
9 Herman, Babe
1 Hershiser, Orel
1 Hiller, John
9 Hooper, Harry*
7 Howard, Frank
8 Hoy, Dummy
1 Hoyt, Waite*
1 Jackman, Bill
8 Jones, Andruw#
8 Kauff, Benny
1 King, Silver
2 Kling, Johnny
4 Knoblauch, Chuck
3 Konetchy, Ed
1 Koosman, Jerry
1 Leonard, Dutch
1 Lolich, Mickey
4 Lopes, Davey
1 Lyle, Sparky
5 Madlock, Bill
1 Marberry, Firpo
5 Marcelle, Ollie
9 Maris, Roger
5 Meyerle, Levi
4 Monroe, Bill
9 Murcer, Bobby
9 O'Neill, Paul
3 Ortiz, David#
1 Oswalt, Roy#
8 Otis, Amos
4 Phillips, Tony
8 Poles, Spot
2 Porter, Darrell
1 Quinn, Jack
2 Radcliffe, Ted
1 Reynolds, Allie
4 Smith, Chino
9 Strawberry, Darryl
2 Sundberg, Jim
1 Tanana, Frank
6 Tejada, Miguel#
8 Thomas, Roy
9 Tiernan, Mike
6 Tinker, Joe*
1 Trout, Dizzy
1 Trucks, Virgil
1 Vaughn, Hippo
6 Vizquel, Omar#
1 Webb, Brandon#
1 Wetteland, John
4 White, Frank
8 Williams, Cy
7 Williams, Ken
5 Williamson, Ned
6 Wills, Maury
1 Wood, Joe
5 Yost, Eddie
* = hall of famer
# = active in 2008
+ = ineligible for HOF
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