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And oh, I love how you ban and censor the extremely popular non-baseball stadium construction threads full of very detailed pictures and expert commentary, yet a moderator's (Ubiquitous) idea of a good thread is to mindlessly post in large font the Cubs magic number day after day without much of anything usefull to say
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=82626
Yeah, I totally agree. It makes no sense to have a thread about some baseball team in that baseball team's forum. How crazy is that?
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On the Inside
I'm not, in the Citi Field construction thread as one example, we have an architect that's provided detailed blueprints and inside knowledge of the construction, as well as several friends of contractors that have provided inside information including unique pictures that show up on baseball-fever before any other web resource. These are the same people that comment on other stadiums.
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Researcher/advocate/mod
Personal attacks, especially terms like "mindlessly", are a ticket to a suspension. Watch it. If you can't make your point without resort to such tactics, don't do it.And oh, I love how you ban and censor the extremely popular non-baseball stadium construction threads full of very detailed pictures and expert commentary, yet a moderator's (Ubiquitous) idea of a good thread is to mindlessly post in large font the Cubs magic number day after day without much of anything usefull to say
http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=82626
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Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
Is it next year yet?
First off having been a mod here for 2 years in the past I must say this topic has come up so many times it honestly gets old. Below is the definition of "Censoring" for those who say this is censorship:
The thread that talks about non baseball topics being deleted is nothing like censorship. It is simply the mods following the rules.censoring
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censor[2,transitive verb]
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2censor
Function:
transitive verb
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cen·sored; cen·sor·ing Listen to the pronunciation of censoring \ˈsen(t)-sə-riŋ, ˈsen(t)s-riŋ\
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: to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable; also : to suppress or delete as objectionable
2 things to thing about.
#1. so many here start off their post by saying "this is the best baseball forum and one of the best all around forums on the net.. but..."
Ever stop and wonder why it is? Maybe... just maybe the game plan that the admins have put in place.. and the mods act out might be working?
It is frustrating to see one of your threads locked or deleted. To be honest I have been there before... but it happens, and as a rule it happens to threads that do no live up to the site policies.
#2. how about posting the thread on www.pigskin-fever.com ? Has that been thought about? someone said this is the only place that we can talk about it, well pigskinfever has the same rules as bbf does... just football related...
Mods:
Can you open a thread in the mod area asking if there would be a way we can offer sticky thread in "Ballparks, Stadiums & Green Diamonds" that says "want to discuss Football Stadiums?" and offer the link to here: http://www.pigskin-fever.com/forumdisplay.php?f=45
Sure it isnt "baseball related" but it is apart of the family of sites that I am sure Sean would love to share.
If that goes, I would suggest the same thread being added to current events as well...
Just some thoughts from someone who is not on either side... but who has been around long enough to know that this will not be the last time we have a thread of this topic... and someone who has accepted that this is just the way it's going to be...
forever...
Last edited by RBi; 09-11-2008 at 06:21 AM.
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Researcher/advocate/mod
We have a sticky thread in Ballparks which essentially does what you request, RBi.
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Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
On the Inside
Bogus, why go to another thread to get what's already established here. We like the current mix of users that contribute to stadium construction threads and the football specific board might as well be ballet-fever.
You've just executed on a completely lousy business policy, you took one of your biggest selling points and attractions to people joining baseball-fever and shut it down on a technicality. You never take away something that gets people through the door and interested in the rest of your product unless it hurts the product. One little thread on stadiums which can completely be relatable to ballparks does not meet that standard.
You said it yourself if the company believes something hurts the product or brand image they should and will remove it. Many, many people believe that the past success and current success of this site is due to the baseball only nature of the content. Other forums have been not as strict and other forums have allowed other topics of discussions. We end up getting a lot of people from those forums because they get disgusted with all the non-topic threads and discussions. The target market for this site is baseball fans and people who wish to discuss baseball, not people who like baseball and would like to talk about other things as well.
What brought people to this site is the baseball content. If somebody came here because they thought they could talk about the meadowlands then I am sorry but they are mistaken. Just because you walk into a Kinko's expecting a hamburger doesn't mean you are going to get a hamburger.
Because it is quite clearly not established here.Bogus, why go to another thread to get what's already established here.
Researcher/advocate/mod
Wrong. You should have never been allowed to start those threads, as they didn't follow the baseball-only rule. That was the mistake, IMHO. When you registered for the site, you agreed to follow the rules--and before any of those threads were begun, the rule was "baseball only". Nobody went to the admins or webmaster asking for an exception (which admittedly probably would have been refused), the threads were just posted in violation of that rule. We've had at least dozens of requests to allow non-baseball discussion, and we've turned them all down. I still haven't seen any persuasive arguments for treating what has proven in many ways to be a contentious group (i.e., this thread and the Yankee/Met squabbling which has plagued your forum) of users any differently.
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
On the Inside
Probably not, but they were started and created a bit of following. Where were the moderators when the threads were started? I know where nymdan was, he was posting as the second guy in the meadowlands thread. Bit of hypocrisy there, no?
And if you want to start talking about rules, do you realize how many hundreds (thousands?) of copyright violations there are on this website? There's so many unatributed and modified copyrighted pictures it would make Johnny Cochrane's head spin.
Selective enforcement, gotta love it.
Nobody is perfect. Mistakes are made and the best course of action isn't to ignore the mistakes but to address them and move on. Those threads shouldn't have been allowed to continue. Their continued existance was a mistake, their closure fixed the mistake. Now there is the fallout from the existance of those mistakes. We are dealing with them and the way to solve those problems is to make sure everybody understands and follows the rules.
As far as copyright violations feel free to contact the Admins I'm sure they will address the situation and resolve that problem as well.
Researcher/advocate/mod
All the mods will enforce copyright violations we're aware of. If we have to, we'll do preemptive enforcement--but, guess what? That will hit the forum(s) with the most pictures the hardest. As far as I know, that would mean the Ballparks forum would be an excellent starting point. Furthermore, since I know you're familiar with that forum and have provided a testimonial to the number of violations, that would give me another reason to start there. Is that really what you want?
Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
Mariners
That seems like the smartest thing to do.
Playertobenamedlater
One only needs to look at MLB.com's forum to see how that situation has gone out of control.
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I think the problem with MLB.com's forum is that too many people post on it. Sounds crazy, but I think there's a limit to how many people can post on a website forum. I dunno what that magic number is, or if it is a single number at all, but I really think that MLB just has too many idiots saying annoying things.
I was also going to come here to propose that a Non-Sports section be created, but I think the issue is pretty much closed at this point...?
BB Card & Memorabilia Mod
You hit it on the spot there. It's been a closed case for a while.
I also heard a rumor a loooong time ago. Are the MLB.com forums moderated? I heard that they are not.
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