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  1. #181
    The Marlins are going from this:



    to this:













    Not the exact location but it's just a few blocks down. I can't really blame them when the neighborhood is this caliente!

    No blocky blocky
    For a realistic sports ticket and merchandise market

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by reh303 View Post
    Any Marlins fans have an opinion on the Florida/Miami name change?

    Congrats on the new park...even though I may or may not still be bitter about 2003.
    I welcome the name change to the Miami Marlins. I'm not a big fan of teams using their their state in the name. I'd much rather have them use the city they play in. I'm also not a fan of teams using the name of a nearby city, ie the Los Angelas Angels(of Anaheim) and Tampa Bay Rays(I don't know why they couldn't play in Tampa to begin with).

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    We were told in 1998 they would change to the miami marlins and every year since same story maybe this is the year, but nothing. Not a big deal to me though.
    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

  4. #184
    Congratulations Marlin fans your new stadium looks awesome. We (Met fans) open Citi Field this week. Can't wait to see it.

  5. #185
    The stadium looks great. Can't wait to see it rise. I'm glad the Fish finally got this done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoxfanNH View Post
    I welcome the name change to the Miami Marlins. I'm not a big fan of teams using their their state in the name. I'd much rather have them use the city they play in. I'm also not a fan of teams using the name of a nearby city, ie the Los Angelas Angels(of Anaheim) and Tampa Bay Rays(I don't know why they couldn't play in Tampa to begin with).
    Umm, sorry about that, I guess. The Twins were the first team named after a state. Back then, the sibling rivalry between the "Twin Cities" was pretty intense, and Griffith didn't want to PO one city's potential fans, so he came up with the "Twin City Twins." MLB (thankfully) said NO, and the governor suggested "Minnesota" instead. It obviously worked. Besides, Minneapolis is the Millers, St Paul is the Saints.

    Naming the team after the entire state works when it's the ONLY team in the state, or even the region, especially out west (see MN, Colorado, Arizona, etc). Not sure why the Rangers are Texas over Dallas. The Marlins should be Miami.
    There's no use being pessimistic, it won't work anyways

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    Did any other places in Florida make an offer to build a new stadium? I wasn't sure if they were planning to stay in the Miami area or not.
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  8. #188
    And some good news at the end of this recent article:

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/b...0,805292.story

    "The Marlins sold 15,000 game tickets Tuesday, about a five-fold increase over their typical daily sales at this time of year."

    Maybe I'm not as crazy as I thought for saying the same thing all along. The Marlins will benefit from the stability.

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by reh303 View Post
    Any Marlins fans have an opinion on the Florida/Miami name change?

    Congrats on the new park...even though I may or may not still be bitter about 2003.
    Even though I live in Palm Beach County and not Miami, I like the Miami Marlins change. It's basically a "Marlins 2.0" It gives the baseball fans of the area a second chance to embrace the team and leave the turmultous and unstable Florida Marlins days behind. Psychologically it's a savvy move, believe it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodgeboy View Post
    Umm, sorry about that, I guess. The Twins were the first team named after a state. Back then, the sibling rivalry between the "Twin Cities" was pretty intense, and Griffith didn't want to PO one city's potential fans, so he came up with the "Twin City Twins." MLB (thankfully) said NO, and the governor suggested "Minnesota" instead. It obviously worked. Besides, Minneapolis is the Millers, St Paul is the Saints.

    Naming the team after the entire state works when it's the ONLY team in the state, or even the region, especially out west (see MN, Colorado, Arizona, etc). Not sure why the Rangers are Texas over Dallas. The Marlins should be Miami.
    The Texas Rangers are named in honor of the Texas Rangers. And since they were located in Arlington, between Dallas and Fort Worth, the used the name Texas. The Cowboys will , of course, keep the Dallas name when they play in Arlington because they have been established as a brand since 1960.
    The Rangers were the second failed Senators. Ironically, the other Senators team also took the name of the State of Minnesota.

    Good luck to Miami. I never thought they would get a stadium. I guess I was wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodgeboy View Post
    Umm, sorry about that, I guess. The Twins were the first team named after a state. Back then, the sibling rivalry between the "Twin Cities" was pretty intense, and Griffith didn't want to PO one city's potential fans, so he came up with the "Twin City Twins." MLB (thankfully) said NO, and the governor suggested "Minnesota" instead. It obviously worked. Besides, Minneapolis is the Millers, St Paul is the Saints.

    Naming the team after the entire state works when it's the ONLY team in the state, or even the region, especially out west (see MN, Colorado, Arizona, etc). Not sure why the Rangers are Texas over Dallas. The Marlins should be Miami.
    It not that big of a deal, just a very minor thing for me but come to think of it, team names like the Minnesota Twins have been around for so long anything else just wouldn't look right. The Minneapolis Twins looks kind of awkward!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoxfanNH View Post
    I welcome the name change to the Miami Marlins. I'm not a big fan of teams using their their state in the name. I'd much rather have them use the city they play in. I'm also not a fan of teams using the name of a nearby city, ie the Los Angelas Angels(of Anaheim) and Tampa Bay Rays(I don't know why they couldn't play in Tampa to begin with).
    I agree with you about not being a big fan of teams that use the state in their name.
    However, in the case of several teams mentioned before (Texas, Minnesota, Colorado) having the state in their team name represents something bigger than just the city they play in. The Texas Rangers for the actual Texas Rnagers, the Minnesota Twins pays homage to two cities in the state and the Colorado Rockies are named after the Colorado Rockies mountain range (there was also a Colorado Rockies hockey team that left for New Jersey to become the Devils). Maybe they are gimicky-type names but in those cases they work.

    The Marlins should absolutely be the Miami Marlins. Congrats on the new stadium.

  13. #193
    It could be worse and they could be named for a nickname or just a region as opposed to a real governmental entity.

    See New England Patriots, Carolina Panthers or (the worst) Golden State Warriors.

    Can you imagine the Sunshine State Marlins? The Miami Marlins sounds so much better than Florida Marlins anyway.

    What will be even more interesting will be what the Athletics city name will be once they move somewhere besides Oakland.

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    follow the $$$$'s...

    message to metro-dade taxpayers...
    open your wallets and pay up!
    these projects never come in on budget and the projections for the income from the tourist tax are based on a overly optomistic unrealistic projections!

    get the truth - http://www.fieldofschemes.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul W View Post
    message to metro-dade taxpayers...
    open your wallets and pay up!
    these projects never come in on budget and the projections for the income from the tourist tax are based on a overly optomistic unrealistic projections!

    get the truth - http://www.fieldofschemes.com/
    Lol is this based on yankee stadium going almost a half billion of projects or citi costing more tax payer money than expected? I think when the marlins are selling out games because it's 75 degrees at a marlins game I don't think they will mind paying a little extra. Even if the extras are for parking garages or other nessicites!
    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy114 View Post
    Lol is this based on yankee stadium going almost a half billion of projects or citi costing more tax payer money than expected? I think when the marlins are selling out games because it's 75 degrees at a marlins game I don't think they will mind paying a little extra. Even if the extras are for parking garages or other nessicites!
    none of these buildings come in "on budget", that's one reason why they are boondoggles costing taxpayers more than the could get back.
    the marlins won't sell out much, they never will especially after the aura of a new place wears off. i've lived in dade co. (miami lakes) and the south florida market is owned by the dolphins, the marlins come in a distant second there. lauria (and his pal buddy selig) will find a way to foist all overruns on the taxpayers.

    get the truth - http://www.fieldofschemes.com/
    Last edited by Paul W; 03-25-2009 at 12:36 PM.

  17. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by Smirkman View Post
    It could be worse and they could be named for a nickname or just a region as opposed to a real governmental entity.

    See New England Patriots, Carolina Panthers or (the worst) Golden State Warriors.

    Can you imagine the Sunshine State Marlins? The Miami Marlins sounds so much better than Florida Marlins anyway.

    What will be even more interesting will be what the Athletics city name will be once they move somewhere besides Oakland.
    As a Patriots fan, I wouldn't mind them going back to being the Boston Patriots like they were once upon a time. The absolute worst is when a team is named after their corporate sponsor like the Connecticut Sun of the WNBA(named after the Mohegan Sun casino) and the NY Red Bull of MLS.

  18. #198
    According to the agreement, the Marlins are responsible for any cost overruns.

  19. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by SoxfanNH View Post
    According to the agreement, the Marlins are responsible for any cost overruns.
    don't believe everything you read... look up lauria's history, especially in montreal.

  20. #200
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul W View Post
    don't believe everything you read... look up lauria's history, especially in montreal.
    You don't get it. If Loria doesn't pay for cost overruns, the City/County gets to sue for Breach of Contract. It's in the agreement.

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