BBF Progressive HoF Election: 1933

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Required Support: Players receiving at least 75% support in an election will be elected. Players need at least 5% support to stay on the ballot, with an exception for first-year eligible players, who will need at least 1 vote to appear on the next ballot.

Player Eligibility: Players eligible for an election will have last played at least 5 years prior to the election year and have appeared in at least 10 Major League seasons . If a player appeared in less than 10 seasons, he may still be eligible if he had a minimum of 3000 ABs or 1500 IP, though extra scrutiny will be applied. Players will remain on the ballot for 15 years, provided they continue to receive at least 5% of the vote, at which point they will become indefinitely eligible for periodic elections conducted by the Veterans Committee.
- Age Exception: For players 40 or older, they will become eligible the later of either 5 years after their last year of continuous play, or their first inactive year at age 45 or older.

Election Period: Elections will close exactly one week after starting. The next election might not commence for another day or two.


1933 Guide
There are 37 candidates on the 1933 ballot – 27 holdovers and 10 first timers. First time eligible players last played in 1928 (unless qualifying under the age rule).

First Timers (10)
Joe Bush
Ty Cobb
Stan Coveleski
Joe Harris
Les Mann
Steve O'Neill
Wally Pipp
Urban Shocker
Tris Speaker
Aaron Ward

Holdovers (27)

Player			Year of Eligibility	Previous Support	High Support		Low Support		Average Support
Babe Adams		3rd			16.67%			18.75% (1931)		16.67% (1932)		17.71%
Jesse Barnes		2nd			4.17%			4.17% (1932)		4.17% (1932)		4.17%
Chief Bender		12th			50.00%			60.00% (1929)		37.50% (1931)		47.75%
George J. Burns		4th			20.83%			24.00% (1930)		18.75% (1931)		21.19%
Wilbur Cooper		3rd			58.33%			58.33% (1932)		40.63% (1931)		49.48%
Gavvy Cravath		9th			20.83%			37.50% (1925)		20.83% (1932)		27.67%
Jake Daubert		5th			12.50%			16.00 (1929)		9.38% (1931)		12.47%
Mike Donlin		15th			8.33%			25.93% (1919)		7.14% (1927)		13.85%
Johnny Evers		8th			41.67%			41.67% (1932)		28.57% (1927)		28.21%
Jack Fournier		2nd			8.33%			8.33% (1932)		8.33% (1932)		8.33%
Larry Gardner		5th			8.33%			15.63% (1931)		8.00% (1930)		10.99%
Heinie Groh		2nd			66.67%			66.67% (1932)		66.67% (1932)		66.67%
Harry Hooper		4th			25.00%			34.38% (1931)		24.00% (1930)		27.79%
Baby Doll Jacobson	2nd			4.17%			4.17% (1932)		4.17% (1932)		4.17%
Ed Konetchy		8th			16.67%			16.67% (1932)		8.00% (1929)		11.86%
Tommy Leach		12th			66.67%			66.67% (1931)		33.33% (1925)		46.83%
Rube Marquard		4th			20.83%			28.00% (1930)		20.83% (1932)		23.57%
Stuffy McInnis		2nd			12.50%			12.50% (1932)		12.50% (1932)		12.50%
Roger Peckinpaugh	2nd			4.17%			4.17% (1932)		4.17% (1932)		4.17%
Del Pratt		5th			20.83%			20.83% (1932)		15.63% (1931)		17.12%
Ed Reulbach		12th			16.67%			17.24% (1924)		7.69% (1923)		12.92%
Bob Shawkey		2nd			12.50%			12.50% (1932)		12.50% (1932)		12.50%
Joe Tinker		13th			33.33%			33.33% (1932)		10.71% (1922)		21.46%
Hippo Vaughn		8th			12.50%			18.52% (1928)		10.71% (1927)		14.60%
Bobby Veach		4th			29.17%			31.25% (1931)		24.00% (1930)		28.14%
Joe Wood		7th			16.67%			35.71% (1927)		16.67 (1932)		27.02%
Ross Youngs		3rd			8.33%			12.50% (1931)		8.33% (1932)		10.42%

Holdovers Dropped from Last Election (9)

Player			Reason			Years on Ballot		High Support		Low Support		Average Support 
Hooks Dauss		Lack of Support		2			4.17% (1932)		3.13% (1931)		3.65%
Art Fletcher		Lack of Support		6			12.00% (1929)		0% (1932)		6.21%
Miller Huggins		Lack of Support		12			20.83% (1985)		4.17% (1932)		13.25%
Johnny Kling		Eligibility Expired	15			26.92% (1920)		9.68% (1921)		18.86%
Dutch Leonard		Lack of Support		3			12.50% (1931)		4.17% (1932)		9.56%
Fred Merkle		Lack of Support		2			6.25% (1931)		0% (1932)		3.13%
Everett Scott		Lack of Support		2			6.25% (1931)		4.17% (1932)		5.21%
Hank Severeid		Lack of Support		2			3.13% (1931)		0% (1932)		1.57%
Jimmy Sheckard		Eligibility Expired	15			45.83% (1932)		25.00% (1927)		33.04%

Last Year of Eligibility (1)

Player			High Support
Mike Donlin		25.93% (1919)

Penultimate Year of Eligibility (0)

Player			High Support

Holdovers Receiving At Least 50% in the Previous Election (4)

Player			Previous Support	Years with At Least 50% Support
Heinie Groh		66.67%			1
Tommy Leach		66.67%			5
Wilbur Cooper		58.33%			1
Chief Bender		50.00%			5

HALL OF FAMERS

Players Elected (71)

Player			Year Elected	Election Percentage	Years on Ballot		Position		Primary Team				Active Years				Total Seasons		Living/Deceased		Age at Election
Cap Anson		1902		100%			1			First Base		Chicago White Stockings (Cubs) (NL)	1871-1897				27			Deceased (1852-1922)	50
Frank Baker		1927		96.43%			1			Third Base		Philadelphia Athletics (AL)		1908-1914, 1916-1919, 1921-1922		13			Living - Age 47		41
Ross Barnes^		1911		76.00%			11			Second Base		Boston Red Stockings (NA)		1871-1879, 1881				9			Deceased (1850-1915)	61
Jake Beckley		1917		76.00%			6			First Base		Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)			1887-1907				20			Deceased (1867-1918)	50
Charlie Bennett		1907		75.00%			7			Catcher			Detroit Wolverines (NL)			1878, 1880-1893				15			Deceased (1854-1927)	53
Roger Bresnahan		1925		79.17%			6			Catcher			New York Giants (NL)			1897, 1900-1915				17			Living - Age 52		46
Dan Brouthers		1901		90.00%			1			First Base		Buffalo Bisons (NL)			1879-1896, 1904				18			Deceased (1858-1932)	50
Mordecai Brown		1921		96.77%			1			Pitcher			Chicago Cubs (NL)			1903-1916				14			Living – Age 57		45
Pete Browning		1909		77.27%			9			Center Field/Left Field	Louisville Colonels (NL/AA)		1882-1894				13			Deceased (1861-1905)	Deceased
Jesse Burkett		1910		92.00%			1			Left field		Cleveland Spiders (NL)			1890-1905				16			Living – Age 65		42
Bob Caruthers		1909		77.27%			9			Pitcher/Right Field	St. Louis Browns (Cardinals) (NL/AA)	1884-1893				10			Deceased (1864-1911)	45
Frank Chance		1932		83.33%			14			First Base		Chicago Cubs (NL)			1898-1914				17			Deceased (1876-1924)	Deceased	
Cupid Childs		1920		76.92%			15			Second Base		Cleveland Spiders (NL)			1888, 1890-1901				13			Deceased (1867-1912)	Deceased
Fred Clarke		1917		88.00%			1			Left Field		Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)			1894-1915				21			Living – Age 65		45
John Clarkson		1901		90.00%			1			Pitcher			Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1882, 1884-1894				12			Deceased  (1861-1909)	40
Jimmy Collins		1913		82.61%			1			Third Base		Boston Americans (Red Sox) (AL)		1895-1908				14			Living – Age 63		43
Roger Connor		1902		79.17%			1			First Base		New York Giants (NL)			1880-1897				18			Deceased (1857-1931)	45
Sam Crawford		1922		92.86%			1			Right Field		Detroit Tigers (AL)			1899-1917				19			Living – Age 53		41
Bill Dahlen		1916		88.00%			1			Shortstop		Chicago Colts (Cubs) (NL)		1891-1911				21			Living – Age 63		46
George Davis		1914		84.62%			1			Shortstop		New York Giants (NL)			1890-1909				20			Living – Age 63		44
Ed Delahanty		1908		96.00%			1			Left Field		Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1888-1903				16			Deceased (1867-1903)	Deceased
Larry Doyle		1926		76.00%			2			Second Base		New York Giants (NL)			1907-1920				14			Living - Age 47		40
Hugh Duffy		1918		75.00%			8			Center Field/Outfield	Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1888-1901, 1904-1906			17			Living – Age 67		52
Buck Ewing		1902		83.33%			1			Catcher			New York Giants (NL)			1880-1897				18			Deceased (1859-1906)	43
Elmer Flick		1916		80.00%			1			Right Field		Cleveland Naps (Indians) (AL)		1898-1910				13			Living – Age 57		40
Pud Galvin		1903		80.77%			3			Pitcher			Buffalo Bisons (NL)			1875, 1879-1892				15			Deceased (1856-1902)	Deceased
Jack Glasscock		1911		84.00%			11			Shortstop		Cleveland Blues (NL)			1879-1895				17			Living – Age 76		54
George Gore		1909		77.27%			9			Center Field		Chicago White Stockings (Cubs) (NL)	1879-1892				14			Deceased (1857-1933)	52
Hughie Jennings		1927		75.00%			14			Shortstop		Baltimore Orioles (NL)			1891-1903, 1907, 1909, 1912, 1918	17			Deceased (1869-1928)	58
Walter Johnson		1932		100%			1			Pitcher			Washington Senators (AL)		1907-1927				21			Living - Age 46		45
Addie Joss		1929		76.00%			15			Pitcher			Cleveland Naps (Indians) (AL)		1902-1910				9			Deceased (1880-1911)	Deceased
Billy Hamilton		1906		82.61%			1			Center Field		Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1888-1901				14			Living – Age 67		40
Paul Hines		1904		76.00%			4			Center Field		Providence Grays (NL)			1872-1891				20			Living – Age 78		49
Tim Keefe		1901		75.00%			1			Pitcher			New York Giants (NL)			1880-1893				14			Deceased (1857-1933)	44
Willie Keeler		1916		92.00%			2			Right Field		Baltimore Orioles (NL)			1892-1910				19			Deceased (1872-1923)	44
Joe Kelley		1920		84.62%			8			Left Field		Baltimore Orioles (NL)			1891-1906, 1908				17			Living – Age 62		49
King Kelly		1902		75.00%			2			Right Field/Catcher	Chicago White Stockings (Cubs) (NL)	1878-1893				16			Deceased (1857-1894)	Deceased
Napoleon Lajoie		1921		96.77%			1			Second Base		Cleveland Naps (Indians) (AL)		1896-1916				21			Living – Age 59		47
Herman Long*		1925 (VC)	75.00% 			VC			Shortstop		Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1889-1904				16			Deceased (1866-1909)	Deceased
Sherry Magee		1924		86.21%			1			Left Field		Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1904-1919				16			Deceased (1884-1929)	40	
Christy Mathewson	1922		93.55%			1			Pitcher			New York Giants (NL)			1900-1916				17			Deceased (1880-1925)	41
Joe McGinnity		1913		91.30%			1			Pitcher			New York Giants (NL)			1899-1908				10			Deceased (1871-1929)	42
Bid McPhee		1905		75.00%			2			Second Base		Cincinnati Reds (NL/AA)			1882-1899				18			Living – Age 74		46
Cal McVey*^		1920 (VC)	83.33%			VC			Catcher/First Base	Boston Red Stockings (NA)		1871-1879				9			Deceased (1849-1926)	71
Tony Mullane		1908		80.00%			8			Pitcher			Cincinnati Reds (NL/AA)			1881-1894				14			Living – Age 73		49
Kid Nichols		1911		100%			1			Pitcher			Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1890-1901, 1904-1906			15			Living – Age 64		42
Jim O’Rourke		1901		90.00%			1			Left Field/Utility	New York Giants (NL)			1872-1893, 1904				23			Deceased (1850-1919)	51
Dickey Pearce*^		1920 (VC)	100%			VC			Shortstop		Brooklyn  Atlantics (NA)		1871-1877				7			Deceased (1836-1908)	Deceased
Lip Pike*^		1920 (VC)	75.00%			VC			Center Field		Baltimore Canaries (NA)			1871-1878, 1881, 1887			10			Deceased (1845-1893)	Deceased
Eddie Plank		1922		92.86%			1			Pitcher			Philadelphia Athletics (AL)		1901-1917				17			Deceased (1875-1926)	47
Charley Radbourn	1901		95.00%			1			Pitcher			Providence Grays (NL)			1881-1891				11			Deceased (1854-1897)	Deceased
Hardy Richardson*	1920 (VC)	91.67%			VC			Second Base/Left Field	Buffalo Bisons (NL)			1879-1892				14			Deceased (1855-1931)	65
Amos Rusie		1906		78.26%			1			Pitcher			New York Giants (NL)			1889-1895, 1897-1898, 1901		10			Living – Age 62		35
Jimmy Ryan*		1930 (VC)	86.67%			VC			Center Field		Chicago Colts (Cubs) (NL)		1885-1900, 1902-1903			18			Deceased (1885-1923)	Deceased
Al Spalding^		1915		80.00%			15			Pitcher			Boston Red Stockings (NA)		1871-1878				8			Deceased (1850-1915)	Deceased
Joe Start*^		1920 (VC)	91.67%			VC			First Base		Providence Grays (NL)			1871-1886				16			Deceased (1842-1927)	78		
Harry Stovey		1907		75.00%			7			Left Field/First Base	Philadelphia Athletics (AA)		1880-1893				14			Living – Age 77		51
Ezra Sutton*		1920 (VC)	83.33%			VC			Third Base		Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1871-1888				18			Deceased (1850-1907)	Deceased
Sam Thompson		1907		79.17%			5			Right Field		Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1885-1898, 1906				15			Deceased (1860-1922)	47
George Van Haltren	1918		75.00%			11			Center Field		New York Giants (NL)			1887-1903				17			Living – Age 67		52
Rube Waddell		1915		84.00%			1			Pitcher			Philadelphia Athletics (AL)		1897, 1899-1910				13			Deceased (1876-1914)	Deceased
Honus Wagner		1922		92.86%			1			Shortstop		Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)			1897-1917				21			Living – Age 59		48
Bobby Wallace		1925		75.00%			3			Shortstop		St. Louis Browns (AL)			1894-1918				25			Living - Age 60		52
Ed Walsh		1922		89.29%			1			Pitcher			Chicago White Sox (AL)			1904-1917				14			Living – Age 52		41
John Ward		1907		75.00%			7			Shortstop/Pitcher	New York Giants (NL)			1878-1894				17			Deceased (1860-1925)	47
Mickey Welch*		1920 (VC)	75.00%			VC			Pitcher			New York Giants (NL)			1880-1892				13			Living – Age 74		61
Zack Wheat		1932		87.50%			1			Left Field		Brooklyn Robins (Dodgers) (NL)		1909-1927				19			Living - Age 45		44
Deacon White^		1904		76.00%			4			Catcher/Third Base	Buffalo Bisons (NL)			1871-1890				20			Living – Age 86		57
Vic Willis		1919		77.78%			5			Pitcher			Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1898-1910				13			Living – Age 57		43
George Wright^		1907		75.00%			7			Shortstop		Boston Red Stockings (NA)		1871-1882				12			Living – Age 86		60
Cy Young		1916		100%			1			Pitcher			Boston Americans (Red Sox) (AL)		1890-1911				22			Living – Age 66		49

* = Elected by Veterans Committee
^ = Played Significantly Prior to 1871

Players Elected by Primary Position
Catcher (5): Charlie Bennett, Roger Bresnahan, Buck Ewing, Cal McVey, Deacon White
First Base (6): Cap Anson, Jake Beckley, Dan Brouthers, Frank Chance, Roger Connor, Joe Start
Second Base (6): Ross Barnes, Cupid Childs, Larry Doyle, Napoleon Lajoie, Bid McPhee, Hardy Richardson
Third Base (3): Frank Baker, Jimmy Collins, Ezra Sutton
Shortstop (10): Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Jack Glasscock, Hughie Jennings, Herman Long, Dickey Pearce, Honus Wagner, Bobby Wallace, John Ward, George Wright
Left Field (8): Jesse Burkett, Fred Clarke, Ed Delahanty, Joe Kelley, Sherry Magee, Jim O'Rourke, Harry Stovey, Zack Wheat
Center Field (8): Pete Browning, Hugh Duffy, George Gore, Billy Hamilton, Paul Hines, Lip Pike, Jimmy Ryan, George Van Haltren
Right Field (5): Sam Crawford, King Kelly, Elmer Flick, Willie Keeler, Sam Thompson
Pitcher (20): Mordecai Brown, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Pud Galvin, Walter Johnson, Addie Joss, Tim Keefe, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Tony Mullane, Kid Nichols, Eddie Plank, Charley Radbourn, Amos Rusie, Al Spalding, Rube Waddell, Ed Walsh, Mickey Welch, Vic Willis, Cy Young

Players Elected by Year
1901 (5): Dan Brouthers, John Clarkson, Tim Keefe, Jim O’Rourke, Charley Radbourn
1902 (4): Cap Anson, Roger Connor, Buck Ewing, King Kelly
1903 (1): Pud Galvin
1904 (2): Paul Hines, Deacon White
1905 (1): Bid McPhee
1906 (2): Billy Hamilton, Amos Rusie
1907 (5): Charlie Bennett, Harry Stovey, Sam Thompson, John Ward, George Wright
1908 (2): Ed Delahanty, Tony Mullane
1909 (3): Pete Browning, Bob Caruthers, George Gore
1910 (1): Jesse Burkett
1911 (3): Ross Barnes, Jack Glasscock, Kid Nichols
1912 (0):
1913 (2): Jimmy Collins, Joe McGinnity
1914 (1): George Davis
1915 (2): Al Spalding, Rube Waddell
1916 (4): Bill Dahlen, Elmer Flick, Willie Keeler, Cy Young
1917 (2): Jake Beckley, Fred Clarke
1918 (2): Hugh Duffy, George Van Haltren
1919 (1): Vic Willis
1920 (2): Cupid Childs, Joe Kelley
- 1920 VC (7): Cal McVey, Dickey Pearce, Lip Pike, Hardy Richardson, Joe Start, Ezra Sutton, Mickey Welch
1921 (3): Mordecai Brown, Napoleon Lajoie, Christy Mathewson
1922 (4): Sam Crawford, Eddie Plank, Honus Wagner, Ed Walsh
1923 (0):
1924 (1): Sherry Magee
1925 (2): Roger Bresnahan, Bobby Wallace
- 1925 VC (1): Herman Long
1926 (1): Larry Doyle
1927 (2): Frank Baker, Hughie Jennings
1928 (0):
1929 (1): Addie Joss
1930 (0):
- 1930 VC (1): Jimmy Ryan
1931 (0):
1932 (3): Frank Chance, Walter Johnson, Zack Wheat

Players Elected by Primary Decade
1870s (9): Ross Barnes, Cal McVey, Dickey Pearce, Lip Pike, Al Spalding, Joe Start, Ezra Sutton, Deacon White, George Wright
1880s (21): Cap Anson, Charlie Bennett, Dan Brouthers, Pete Browning, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Roger Conner, Buck Ewing, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, George Gore, Paul Hines, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Tony Mullane, Jim O’Rourke, Charley Radbourn, Hardy Richardson, Harry Stovey, John Ward, Mickey Welch
1890s (17): Jake Beckley, Jesse Burkett, Cupid Childs, Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Ed Delahanty, Hugh Duffy, Billy Hamilton, Hughie Jennings, Joe Kelley, Herman Long, Bid McPhee, Kid Nichols, Jimmy Ryan, Amos Rusie, Sam Thompson, George Van Haltren
1900s (19): Roger Bresnahan, Mordecai Brown, Frank Chance, Fred Clarke, Jimmy Collins, Sam Crawford, Elmer Flick, Addie Joss, Willie Keeler, Napoleon Lajoie, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Eddie Plank, Rube Waddell, Honus Wagner, Bobby Wallace, Ed Walsh, Vic Willis, Cy Young
1910s (5): Frank Baker, Larry Doyle, Walter Johnson, Sherry Magee, Zack Wheat

Players Elected by Primary Organization
Baltimore Canaries (NA) (1): Lip Pike
Baltimore Orioles (NL) (3): Hughie Jennings, Willie Keeler, Joe Kelley
Boston Braves (fka Beaneaters) (NL) (6): John Clarkson, Hugh Duffy, Herman Long, Kid Nichols, Ezra Sutton, Vic Willis
Boston Red Sox (fka Americans) (AL) (2): Jimmy Collins, Cy Young
Boston Red Stockings (NA) (4): Ross Barnes, Cal McVey, Al Spalding, George Wright
Brooklyn Atlantics (NA) (1): Dickey Pearce
Brooklyn Dodgers (fka Robins) (1): Zack Wheat
Buffalo Bisons (NL) (4): Dan Brouthers, Pud Galvin, Hardy Richardson, Deacon White
Chicago Cubs (fka White Stockings, Colts) (NL) (7): Cap Anson, Mordecai Brown, Frank Chance, Bill Dahlen, George Gore, King Kelly, Jimmy Ryan
Chicago White Sox (AL) (1): Ed Walsh
Cincinnati Reds (NL, AA) (2): Bid McPhee, Tony Mullane
Cleveland Blues (NL) (1): Jack Glasscock
Cleveland Indians (fka Naps) (AL) (3): Elmer Flick, Addie Joss, Napoleon Lajoie
Cleveland Spiders (NL) (2): Jesse Burkett, Cupid Childs
Detroit Tigers (AL) (1): Sam Crawford
Detroit Wolverines (NL) (1): Charlie Bennett
Louisville Colonels (NL, AA) (1): Pete Browning
New York Giants (NL) (13): Roger Bresnahan, Roger Connor, George Davis, Larry Doyle, Buck Ewing, Tim Keefe, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Jim O’Rourke, Amos Rusie, George Van Haltren, John Ward, Mickey Welch
Philadelphia Athletics (AL) (3): Frank Baker, Eddie Plank, Rube Waddell
Philadelphia Athletics (AA) (1): Harry Stovey
Philadelphia Phillies (NL) (4): Ed Delahanty, Billy Hamilton, Sherry Magee, Sam Thompson
Pittsburgh Pirates (NL) (3): Jake Beckley, Fred Clarke, Honus Wagner
Providence Grays (NL) (3): Paul Hines, Charley Radbourn, Joe Start
St. Louis Browns (AL) (1): Bobby Wallace
St. Louis Cardinals (fka Browns) (NL, AA) (1): Bob Caruthers
Washington Senators (AL) (1): Walter Johnson


Miscellaneous Information
- Highest Regular Election Percentage: Cap Anson, Walter Johnson, Kid Nichols, Cy Young – 100%
- Number of 1st Ballot Electees: 31
- Number of Electees with At Least 90% Support: 19
- Average Regular Election Percentage: 84.04%
- Most Years on Ballot Before Election: Cupid Childs, Addie Joss, Al Spalding – 15
- Number of Players Elected After 10 Years on Ballot: 8
- Average Wait Before Election: 4.23 Years
- Number of Players Lasting 15 Years on Ballot without Election: 19
- Number of Players Elected by Veterans Committee: 9
- Average Electees per Veterans Committee Election: 3
- Highest Percentage Among Players Not Elected: Heinie Groh, Tommy Leach - 66.67%
- Highest Average Percentage Among Players Not Elected: Heinie Groh - 66.67%
- Most Regular Election Electees in One Year: 5 (1901, 1907)
- Fewest Regular Election Electees in One Year: 0 (1912, 1923, 1928, 1930, 1931)
- Average Regular Election Electees Per Year: 2
- Largest Ballot: 78 Players (1901)
- Largest Post-1915 Ballot: 47 Players (1932)
- Smallest Ballot: 23 Players (1918)
- Most Votes Cast: 32 (1931)
- Fewest Votes Cast: 20 (1901)
- Average Votes Cast: 25.36
- Team With Most Players Elected: New York Giants - 13
- Team With Second Most Players Elected: Chicago Cubs - 7
- Electee with Longest Post-1871 Career: Cap Anson – 27 Seasons
- Electee with Shortest Post-1871 Career: Dickey Pearce – 8 Seasons
- Average Post-1871 Career Length of Electees: 15.79 Seasons
- Youngest Elected Player: Amos Rusie – Age 35
- Oldest Elected Player: Joe Start – 78
- Average Age at Election: 48.27
- Number of Posthumously Elected Players: 15
- Number of Living Hall of Famers: 35
- Oldest Living Hall of Famer: Deacon White, George Wright - 86
- Deceased in Past Year: George Gore, Tim Keefe

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1902: 24
1903: 26
1904: 25
1905: 24
1906: 23
1907: 24
1908: 25
1909: 22
1910: 25
1911: 25
1912: 23
1913: 23
1914: 26
1915: 25
1916: 25
1917: 25
1918: 24
1919: 27
1920: 26
1921: 31
1922: 28
1923: 25
1924: 29
1925: 24
1926: 25
1927: 28
1928: 27
1929: 25
1930: 25
1931: 32
1932: 24

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[mwiggins]

Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Stan Coveleski
Heinie Groh
Tommy Leach
Wilbur Cooper
Ross Youngs

[jjpm74]

Wilbur Cooper
Stan Coveleski
Heinie Groh
Tommy Leach
Urban Shocker
Tris Speaker
Bobby Veach

Ty Cobb was a 1st class jerk who would run over his own mother if he thought it would give him an edge. Integrity factors in when voting for someone for the HOF. Cobb lacked integrity so he does not get my vote.

[Cowtipper]

I decided to switch up my ballot this time around. I'm not going to be voting for Bender, Donlin, Hooper, Leach, Reulbach or Wood anymore.

My votes this time around...

George Burns
Ty Cobb
Wilbur Cooper
Stan Coveleski
Gavvy Cravath
Urban Shocker
Tris Speaker
Hippo Vaughn
Bobby Veach

Looking at my ballot, I voted for only pitchers and outfielders. Guys I didn't vote for but am will to listen to cases for are Babe Adams, Mike Donlin, Jack Fournier (the best of the first basemen on the ballot, in my opinion), Del Pratt (best second baseman), Joe Tinker (best SS, but not by much), Groh (much better than Gardner), and O'Neill (only C on ballot, so he is by default the best).

[SavoyBG]

I only voted for Cobb and Speaker. This is the first election I am participating in, and I feel that the standards of the voters here have been a bit too low in the past. For me, the hall of fame should only be for the truly great players in history, not for the merely excellent players. I also slant a bit towards pioneers, players and others (like Ross Barnes) from the early years who paved the way for the professional game as we know it to take hold.

Here are the players who have already been inducted here who I would not have voted for:


Catcher: Charlie Bennett

Bennett was never a dominant player, just merely a very good catcher for about 8 seasons, no better than Thurman Munson or Jorge Posada. Not a hall of famer. Bresnahan is borderline, but as an umpire I have to let him in for inventing the shin guards :-)


First Base: Joe Start

Maybe he deserves consideration as a pioneer of how to play defense as a firstbaseman, but strictly as a player there's no way Start should be a hall of famer.

Second Base: Cupid Childs, Larry Doyle, Hardy Richardson

None of these three were great for long enough to be hall of famers in my book. All were excellent players, but not quite hall of famers. McPhee barely gets in with me based on more longevity and other factors (last fielder with no glove).


Third Base: Ezra Sutton

Not near dominant enough to be a hall of famer.


Shortstop: Herman Long, Dickey Pearce, Bobby Wallace

Long and Wallace were excellent players, but not hall of famers. Pearce may be the worst choice of anybody that has been inducted so far.

Center Field: Hugh Duffy, Jimmy Ryan, George Van Haltren

All three of these guys are borderline. I don't think I'd put any of them in, but I might have voted for one of them, possibly.

Pitcher: Mickey Welch, Vic Willis

Two excellent pitchers who are not hall of famers for me.

Like I said, I feel the standards have been a bit low here to this point.

[jjpm74]

Welcome to the project!

[jalbright]

Three holdovers and three new names:

Ty Cobb
Wilbur Cooper
Stan Coveleski
Heinie Groh
Tommy Leach
Tris Speaker

Speaker and Cobb should be no-brainers, and Cooper, Groh and Leach were the holdovers.

[henrich]

My best 15 on the ballot:

SP's
Bender 11,681
Shawkey 10,585
Bush 10,239
Coveleski 10,071
Adams 9581
Reulbach 9572
Marquard 9338

3B
Leach 8773
Gardner 8255
Groh 8060

CF Cobb 20,706
Cf Speaker 15,300

RF Hooper 9776

1B McInnis 9494

2B Evers 7971

[dgarza]

Chief Bender
George Burns
Ty Cobb
Stan Coveleski
Gavvy Cravath
Mike Donlin
Johnny Evers
Harry Hooper
Rube Marquard
Tris Speaker
Joe Tinker
Bobby Veach
Ross Youngs


1. Ty Cobb
2. Tris Speaker
3. Bobby Veach
4. Stan Coveleski
5. Gavvy Cravath
6. Chief Bender
7. Mike Donlin
8. George Burns
9. Ross Youngs
10. Rube Marquard
11. Harry Hooper
12. Johnny Evers
13. Joe Tinker

[mwiggins]

When you debate including Coveleski on your ballot, think about how many pitchers that we've seen this century that have a better career ERA+ than he does (with a minimum of 2,000 IP)

I've got:

1. Johnson - 147, 5915 IP
2. Walsh - 146, 2964 IP
3. Joss - 142, 2327 IP
4. Brown - 138, 3172 IP
Young - 138, 7355 IP
6. Alexander - 135, 5190 IP
Matty - 135, 4781 IP
Waddell - 135, 2961 IP
9. Hahn - 132, 2029 IP
10. COVELESKI - 127, 3082 IP

And for dominance and peak performance, he won 2 ERA+ titles, finished 2nd 3 times, and 6th 3 more times.

[DoubleX]

I'm glad to see Coveleski doing so strongly of the gate. There's still most of this election left to go, but I was afraid that Coveleski might take some discussion/debate.

I'm also glad that after a number of lean years, we elected three players last year, including Frank Chance.

Here's my ballot:

Ty Cobb - Quite possibly the best position player we've seen (others might argue it's Wagner, and more may argue it's Ruth when he becomes eligible). I can understand though if some people would hold Cobb's personality against him.

Stan Coveleski - Not an all time great, but a very solid selection, IMO.

Johnny Evers - Just over the line for me.

Heinie Groh - Depending on how things go, Groh could become my next pet project. We've elected just 3 3Bmen to represent 60+ years of baseball history, so something has got to give. Given our overall standards and the fact that we could use a larger group at that position, I think Groh fits in nicely.

Tommy Leach - He's perhaps benefited from conversation more than anyone, going from someone who was regularly getting around 40% to someone who has a realistic chance at election. His mastery at two important defense positions, coupled with pretty good offense for those positions and a good peak, make him both pretty unique and pretty valuable.

Del Pratt - I'm getting closer to dropping him, but I'm not quite there.

Tris Speaker - Not quite Cobb, but a true all time great. It won't be often we have two players of this ilk coming up simultaneously.

Bobby Veach - Just over the line for me, but I wouldn't really argue his case.

I found myself close on Urban Shocker, which I found also made me close on Hippo Vaughn. I could see myself voting for one or both in the future depending on arguments made for them. I'm also still close on Wilbur Cooper, but I'm still not there yet. Bob Shawkey is closer than I originally thought as well, but probably behind these other three.

[Brooklyn]

Speaker and Cobb

[Cowtipper]

I found myself close on Urban Shocker, which I found also made me close on Hippo Vaughn. I could see myself voting for one or both in the future depending on arguments made for them. I'm also still close on Wilbur Cooper, but I'm still not there yet. Bob Shawkey is closer than I originally thought as well, but probably behind these other three.

This is how I rank the pitchers on the ballot:

Coveleski > Shocker > Cooper > Vaughn > Adams > Shawkey > Marquard > Reulbach > Bush > Barnes > Wood > Bender

[bambambaseball]

I just dont get why we can elect Frank Chance but not Tommy Leach who was a better player as much more defensive positions. Henie Groh is another one. Why do the participants hate third basemen?

[SavoyBG]

When you debate including Coveleski on your ballot, think about how many pitchers that we've seen this century that have a better career ERA+ than he does (with a minimum of 2,000 IP)

I've got:

1. Johnson - 147, 5915 IP
2. Walsh - 146, 2964 IP
3. Joss - 142, 2327 IP
4. Brown - 138, 3172 IP
Young - 138, 7355 IP
6. Alexander - 135, 5190 IP
Matty - 135, 4781 IP
Waddell - 135, 2961 IP
9. Hahn - 132, 2029 IP
10. COVELESKI - 127, 3082 IP

And for dominance and peak performance, he won 2 ERA+ titles, finished 2nd 3 times, and 6th 3 more times.

Yes, Stan was probably the closest to getting my vote among the people that I did not vote for. I would like to have seen a longer career. I may still vote for him in the future, possibly.

[SavoyBG]

I just dont get why we can elect Frank Chance but not Tommy Leach who was a better player as much more defensive positions. Henie Groh is another one. Why do the participants hate third basemen?

Chance was a much better hitter than Leach, with a career OPS+ of 135. Leach was only at 108. It's very difficult to call anybody with a career OPS+ of just 108 a hall of famer, unless it's an unreal fielder at 2B (McPhee) or SS (Maranville, Ozzie, etc...)

The only problem with Chance is his short career. Otherwise he's easily a great player. Excellent offense, great baserunner, and very good fielder at 1B too. Also the manager of one of the great teams of all time, he's clearly a hall of famer one way or another.

[mwiggins]

I just dont get why we can elect Frank Chance but not Tommy Leach who was a better player as much more defensive positions.

Chance was a significantly better hitter than Leach. During Chance's 6 year "peak" his average OPS+ was 145. The average OPS+ of Leach's best 6 hitting seasons, which were intermingled with a few pedestrian seasons, was 127. And back then first base was more important that it is now, and by all accounts he was an above average defender.

And Chance's best years were also more compacted together. He finished between 4th and 6th in the NL in OWP 5 years in a row. So your looking at stretch of 5 years, from 1903-1907, where Chance was probably the 5th best offensive player in the league and managed his team to 3 straight World Series.

Also, Chance was the manager of one of the greatest dynasty's the game has ever known. That helps make up for his short career.

Leach has more career value, but Chance had a much better peak. But to say he was a better player than Chance seems quite a stretch.

And Chance did MUCH better in the real Hall of Fame voting in the late 30's when he and Leach were on the ballot. Leach got one vote in 1937 and one in 1939. Chance got 5 in 1936, 49 in 1937, 133 in 1938, and 158 in 1939.

[henrich]

Shocker adn Vaughn were higher than some position players for me, but I tried to balance my pitchers with enough hitters. They were both better than the 3rd basemen that I have on the ballot. I will vote for them as room becomes available.

Vaughn 8956
Shocker 8698

[DoubleX]

Catcher: Charlie Bennett

Bennett was never a dominant player, just merely a very good catcher for about 8 seasons, no better than Thurman Munson or Jorge Posada. Not a hall of famer. Bresnahan is borderline, but as an umpire I have to let him in for inventing the shin guards :-)

We're trying to approach this as if we have no knowledge of the game's future beyond the year of the election. In the grand scheme of things, Bennett may have been similar to someone like Munson or Posada, but that kind of productivity from a catcher was much rarer in Bennett's time, and within that context, his case is pretty good.

Third Base: Ezra Sutton

Not near dominant enough to be a hall of famer.

If we boot out Sutton then we'd be left with just two Hall of Famers to represent 60+ years of history at 3B. That doesn't seem quite right and would be an indication that perhaps we need to reassess our standards at 3B (and I believe we do need to make that kind of reassessment). If we were to remove Sutton in particular, we would have no representation at 3B from the 19th Century, and that's not right, IMO. Among 3B from that period, Sutton likely has the best combination of peak and longevity and I do think he's a worthy selection.

Shortstop: Herman Long, Dickey Pearce, Bobby Wallace

Long and Wallace were excellent players, but not hall of famers. Pearce may be the worst choice of anybody that has been inducted so far.

What are you basing this assessment of Pearce on? He was never on the regular ballot but overwhelmingly elected by our VC (100% I believe), so there was a strong consensus that he belongs. His post 1871 numbers which are available on baseball-reference.com are not particularly impressive, but much of his case rests on his pre-1871 play, when he was a true standout in the fledgling game.

Center Field: Hugh Duffy, Jimmy Ryan, George Van Haltren

All three of these guys are borderline. I don't think I'd put any of them in, but I might have voted for one of them, possibly.

These guys are about as close as three contemporaries at the same position can be. They are three of the weaker selection, IMO, but given their extreme similarity, it seemed to me that you either elected all or none. In this case, we elected Duffy and Van Haltren together, and with those two in it struck me as rather arbitrary to not elect Ryan as well, who was eventually elected by the VC here.

Like I said, I feel the standards have been a bit low here to this point.

Our standards are only as good as we make them. For all intents and purposes, we are the one and only Hall of Fame in this exercise and thus we are to abandon any pre-conceived idea of Hall of Fame standards based on Cooperstown. And personally, I think we've done a much better job than Cooperstown thus far. I believe our standards are better defined, and while that might be larger than some would like, it helps ensure that we capture most, if not all of those worthy players, such as Bill Dahlen and Deacon White, that Cooperstown has missed. The tradeoff is that we've elected some slightly more questionable players, but none I believe really stand out as truly puzzling, unlike Cooperstown which has inducted a number of players that make you scratch your head. I'd rather have our bottom rung be players like Mickey Welch, Jake Beckley, Charlie Bennett, George Van Haltren, Hugh Duffy, Jimmy Ryan, etc, and have them create a pretty identifiable and mostly acceptable bottom standard that ensures we don't miss clearly qualified players, rather than have guys like George Kelly, Tommy McCarthy, Bill Mazeroski, Rick Ferrell, Rube Marquard, and so on create a very puzzling array of bottomers in Cooperstown, which also misses out on a number of clearly qualified players.

EDIT: I also don't think it's surprising we've likely elected more players from the period we've thus far looked at than Cooperstown has. We've been going year by year starting with 1901, meaning we've been looking at these players (as best we can) against their peers and in the context in which they played. Cooperstown on the other hand had to look back on the 19th and early 20th centuries in bulk - players spanning decades of play were grouped together rather than looked at within their era. Thus, it's not surprising that some players may have fallen through the cracks with Cooperstown that we've picked up, such as Deacon White, Bill Dahlen, and Sherry Magee. It's also not surprising to me that Cooperstown continues to overlook these players as recently as last month's VC election, because they've now faded in history (whereas someone like Joe Gordon benefited from still having some of his contemporaries alive to push his case before it became too late).

[SavoyBG]

We're trying to approach this as if we have no knowledge of the game's future beyond the year of the election. In the grand scheme of things, Bennett may have been similar to someone like Munson or Posada, but that kind of productivity from a catcher was much rarer in Bennett's time, and within that context, his case is pretty good.

Not to me. He was not any kind of a dominant offensive player. He barely had 500 runs scored or 500 RBIs. Just a real solid catcher, but not a great player. To me, the hall of fame should be for great players, not for real good players.

[SavoyBG]

If we boot out Sutton then we'd be left with just two Hall of Famers to represent 60+ years of history at 3B. That doesn't seem quite right and would be an indication that perhaps we need to reassess our standards at 3B (and I believe we do need to make that kind of reassessment). If we were to remove Sutton in particular, we would have no representation at 3B from the 19th Century, and that's not right, IMO. Among 3B from that period, Sutton likely has the best combination of peak and longevity and I do think he's a worthy selection.

Sorry, but I couldn't disagree more. There's no reason why each position needs to be represented in each era. Third base was more of a defensive position in the 19th century, and Sutton is not even close to the best 3Bman of the time. McGraw, Joyce, Cross and Denny Lyons are all CLEARLY better than Sutton. If you want a 19th century 3Bman there's one that you already have inducted but have listed at the wrong position. Deacon White played about twice as many games at 3B as he did at catcher.

Denny Lyons might have gotten my vote, but Sutton is in no way a hall of famer by any standard.

[SavoyBG]

What are you basing this assessment of Pearce on? He was never on the regular ballot but overwhelmingly elected by our VC (100% I believe), so there was a strong consensus that he belongs. His post 1871 numbers which are available on baseball-reference.com are not particularly impressive, but much of his case rests on his pre-1871 play, when he was a true standout in the fledgling game.

I'm not in favor of inducting many players because of pre 1871 play. Details are far too sketchy from then, there's no real stats, and real indication of the level of opposition. I think we're already very liberal in treating the 1871-1875 period as if it was major league baseball.

[SavoyBG]

These guys are about as close as three contemporaries at the same position can be. They are three of the weaker selection, IMO, but given their extreme similarity, it seemed to me that you either elected all or none. In this case, we elected Duffy and Van Haltren together, and with those two in it struck me as rather arbitrary to not elect Ryan as well, who was eventually elected by the VC here.

I think all three guys are a notch below hall of famers, just real good long time stars, sort of equivelant to modern players like Dwight Evans, who I also would not induct. To me, the hall should be for dominant players, not for excellent players. Some of the guys getting votes this time (Groh, Leach, Cooper, Shocker, Vaughn) should not even be thought about as hall of famers IMO. The standards are just too low here. I think some of the voters just want to be more active, so they find people to vote for rather than just finding the true hall of famers. The idea here should be to keep the membership unique, rather then to bend over backwards to find ways to induct more people.

[leecemark]

--Went with an uncharacteristicly generous full ballot this year;

George J. Burns, LF (1911-1925) - meets our outfield standard - such as it is
Ty Cobb, CF (1905-1928) - he'd have to be a mass murderer for character questions to outweigh his accomplishments
Wilbur Cooper, SP (1912-1926) - like him better than Joss
Stan Coveleski, SP (1912, 1916-1928) - like him better than Cooper
Gavvy Cravath, RF (1908-1909, 1912-1920) - sneaks over the border this year
Johnny Evers, 2B (1902-1917, 1922) - i go back and forth on him
Jack Fournier, 1B (1912-1918, 1920-1927) - if only born 10 years later...
Heinie Groh, 3B (1912-1927) - 3rd best 3B in history?
Tommy Leach, 3B/CF (1898-1915, 1918) - or is it Tommy?
Del Pratt, 2B (1912-1924) - roughly equal to Evers
Bob Shawkey, SP (1913-1926) - barely edges onto ballot
Urban Shocker, SP (1916-1928) - ditto
Tris Speaker, CF (1907-1928) - unanimous thru my vote
Hippo Vaughn, SP (1908, 1910-1921) - If Shawkey and Shocker....
Bobby Veach, LF (1912-1925) - meets Ryan/Duffy/GVH standard

[SavoyBG]

--Went with an uncharacteristicly generous full ballot this year;

George J. Burns, LF (1911-1925) - meets our outfield standard - such as it is
Ty Cobb, CF (1905-1928) - he'd have to be a mass murderer for character questions to outweigh his accomplishments
Wilbur Cooper, SP (1912-1926) - like him better than Joss
Stan Coveleski, SP (1912, 1916-1928) - like him better than Cooper
Gavvy Cravath, RF (1908-1909, 1912-1920) - sneaks over the border this year
Johnny Evers, 2B (1902-1917, 1922) - i go back and forth on him
Jack Fournier, 1B (1912-1918, 1920-1927) - if only born 10 years later...
Heinie Groh, 3B (1912-1927) - 3rd best 3B in history?
Tommy Leach, 3B/CF (1898-1915, 1918) - or is it Tommy?
Del Pratt, 2B (1912-1924) - roughly equal to Evers
Bob Shawkey, SP (1913-1926) - barely edges onto ballot
Urban Shocker, SP (1916-1928) - ditto
Tris Speaker, CF (1907-1928) - unanimous thru my vote
Hippo Vaughn, SP (1908, 1910-1921) - If Shawkey and Shocker....
Bobby Veach, LF (1912-1925) - meets Ryan/Duffy/GVH standard

Are you serious with this ballot? Most of these guys are just long time very good regulars. I know there's a mystique to voting for old timers that you never saw, but most of these guys are nowhere near hall of famers.

George Burns is roughly equal to Frank Howard and George Foster. Do you see them as hall of famers?

Wilbur Cooper is only 38 games over .500 with a career ERA+ of 116. He's about even with someone like Jerry Koosman.

Cravath is about equal with Daryll Strawberry. Are they hall of famers?

Evers is not even as good as Chuck Knoblauch. Are you putting him in?

Pratt is almost dead even with Jim Gilliam.

These guys are all very good major league players, but nowhere near hall of famers.

I implore you to raise your standards some.