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    Bench- Sam Crawford 1908-1914
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    1B/LF Willie Stargell, 1969-1975



    and then a guy who can play 1B/2B/3B and SS/OF in a pinch

    UTIL Paul Molitor, 1987-1993

    Last edited by The Splendid Splinter; 03-23-2009 at 03:16 PM.
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    Bo Jackson

    Actually, I think they were about the same because I lettered in all sports, and I was a two-time state decathlon champion.
    Bo Jackson

    My sophomore year I placed 2nd, and my junior and senior year - I got smart and piled up enough points between myself and second place where I didn't have to run the mile.
    Bo Jackson

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    C/OF - Roger Bresnahan 1902-1908

    SS/3B/2B - George Davis 1893-1899
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Splendid Splinter View Post
    Other criteria you can go by: best year, 3 or 10 year peak, umm... can't think of any off the top of my head right now.
    I like that one or players who started their careers before 1960. I would have no problem hosting it or starting right after this one. Others may want to take a break, though.
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    Since Tyrus or Buzz has drafted after me yet, I'm going to replace my Berkman pick (since he is part of my last 2 picks that are together) with 1B/LF Willie Stargell, 1969-1975... just so everyone know...

    for everyone else, you can replace players if the person ahead of you hasn't picked or even after the draft... We have done this in the past as well.
    Last edited by The Splendid Splinter; 03-23-2009 at 03:17 PM.
    "Back before I injured my hip, I thought going to the gym was for wimps."
    Bo Jackson

    Actually, I think they were about the same because I lettered in all sports, and I was a two-time state decathlon champion.
    Bo Jackson

    My sophomore year I placed 2nd, and my junior and senior year - I got smart and piled up enough points between myself and second place where I didn't have to run the mile.
    Bo Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwiggins View Post
    RP Tug McGraw 1969-1972
    I just noticed this. I took McGraw about 2 rounds before you.
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    Am I even up? I suggest some sort of reminder on the front page for who is up. With everyone doing their make-up picks, I've lost track. Sorry if I'm late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Splendid Splinter View Post
    Since Tyrus or Buzz has drafted after me yet, I'm going to replace my Berkman pick (since he is part of my last 2 picks that are together) with 1B/LF Willie Stargell, 1969-1975... just so everyone know...

    for everyone else, you can replace players if the person ahead of you hasn't picked or even after the draft... We have done this in the past as well.
    Why can you do this? Can this be done in any real draft? Isn't the idea to be like a real draft? That's why I had problems with people starting at positions they only played a handful of games at, and why I had questions about injuries (I still don't see why I can't have McGwire 92-99). But you can't really take back a draft choice, can you? That seems a bit wrong to me.

    Then again, I wasn't going to take either Berkman or Stargell, so it doesn't really have a big effect here. No harm, no foul, I guess.

    I've got plenty of speed, I'll add yet more muscle in reserve-

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    well, it's been 36 hours since my last pick, and since there are three guys after me, I assume it's okay to pick again.

    Last round! Well, here we go...



    3rd string catcher Gabby Hartnett 1931-1937



    This was loads of fun- how do we do the sim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzaldrin View Post
    This was loads of fun- how do we do the sim?
    Mwiggins has the sim on his computer so he'll have to do that part. I'm going to be doing the poll part.

    I need everyone to update their roster page with everyone on there. You don't have to add the stats or do analysis at the end either, just the names and years.

    Then I will either make 1 thread in the history forum with the 7 teams and let voters decide who is the best team out of those 7... or i will make 2 threads and see who wins those (1 out of 3 and other out of 4) and the winners will face against each other in the final poll... Kinda like a tournament.

    Tyrus is up until 7 PM tonight... then I will make the last pick of the draft. After I make the last pick, I'll give this 3 more days for people to make up or replace their picks and update their roster page.
    Last edited by The Splendid Splinter; 03-25-2009 at 12:26 PM.
    "Back before I injured my hip, I thought going to the gym was for wimps."
    Bo Jackson

    Actually, I think they were about the same because I lettered in all sports, and I was a two-time state decathlon champion.
    Bo Jackson

    My sophomore year I placed 2nd, and my junior and senior year - I got smart and piled up enough points between myself and second place where I didn't have to run the mile.
    Bo Jackson

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    For my last pick I'll snag Roberto Alomar 1995-2001
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    OF Jim Edmonds, 2000-2006



    EB has 6 picks left

    those are the picks left in this draft...
    Last edited by The Splendid Splinter; 03-26-2009 at 06:58 AM.
    "Back before I injured my hip, I thought going to the gym was for wimps."
    Bo Jackson

    Actually, I think they were about the same because I lettered in all sports, and I was a two-time state decathlon champion.
    Bo Jackson

    My sophomore year I placed 2nd, and my junior and senior year - I got smart and piled up enough points between myself and second place where I didn't have to run the mile.
    Bo Jackson

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    1B-DH Eddie Murray, 1982-88

    OF Dave Winfield, 1977-83

    RP Dave Righetti, 1984-87

    RP Ron Perranoski, 1961-64

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    IF Johnny Pesky 1942-1951
    OF Charlie Keller 1939-1946
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    Frank Linzy, 1965-68
    Don McMahon, 1961-64
    Javy Lopez, 1998-2004
    Luke Appling, 1938-44
    Tim Raines, 1983-89
    Al Rosen, 1950-56

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    I'll take RP Jeff Nelson 1994-1997 to replace Tug McGraw.

    I've got the sim mostly setup. If anyone else wants to provide lineups (or lineups for vs. right or left if you'd like) or setup your bullpen (assign pitchers to closer, setup, long relief, and mopup roles), I'll give you a few days to post them in the roster thread. Otherwise the sim will handle that for your team.

    Here's a template for BP roles if you want to assign pitchers to them:

    Mopup:
    Long Relief:
    Setup vs. L:
    Setup vs. R:
    Closer vs. L:
    Closer vs. R:

    You can assign multiple pitchers to each role, the computer manager will use the first one if they're rested and their "backup" if not. And you can have pitchers in multiple roles. If you want Rivera to be the first closer option every time, then assign him to both Closer vs. L and vs. R roles.

    You can also indicate if you want a 4-main rotation, 5-main strict, or 5-main where your 5th starter gets skipped when possible.

    Also, you can assign late inning defensive replacements for any position and assign your top pinch hitter vs. LH or RH pitchers.
    Last edited by mwiggins; 03-27-2009 at 06:13 PM.

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    The sim is all setup. 160 games, each team plays the other 5 32 times. Here's an exibition series I did with Splendid Splinter's team and mine, while I'm waiting to see if anyone else wants to provide lineups or bullpen setups. Gibby outduels the Big Train in game one, but the Splinter's bats come alive in game two as the pound out 5 HR's, including two 3-run blasts from DH Johnny Mize. Their vaunted bullpen almost blows it, giving up a 5 spot in the bottom of the 9th. Game three saw Greg Maddux completely dominate as DiMaggio provided all the runs he'd need with a two run triple in the 4th.


    Code:
    6/15/2009, SpS09-MW09, County Stadium (1985-00)
     
                           1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9     R  H  E   LOB DP
    2009 Splinters         0  0  0  1  0  0  0  0  0     1  4  0     4  2
    2009 Mwiggins          0  2  1  0  0  0  0  0  x     3  8  0     5  0
     
    Splinters            AB  R  H BI   AVG    Mwiggins             AB  R  H BI   AVG
    Brett             3b  4  0  1  0  .250    Henderson,R       lf  4  0  0  0  .000
    Lajoie            2b  4  1  3  0  .750    Speaker           cf  4  1  2  0  .500
    Pujols            1b  4  0  0  0  .000    Wagner,H          ss  4  0  0  0  .000
    Mize              dh  4  0  0  1  .000    Bonds,Ba          dh  3  1  0  0  .000
    DiMaggio,J        cf  4  0  0  0  .000    Hornsby           2b  4  1  2  1  .500
    Stargell          lf  2  0  0  0  .000    Jackson,J         rf  3  0  1  0  .333
    Clemente          rf  3  0  0  0  .000    Ott               3b  3  0  2  1  .667
    Campanella        c   2  0  0  0  .000    Dickey            c   3  0  1  1  .333
     Edmonds          ph  1  0  0  0  .000    Sisler            1b  2  0  0  0  .000
     Biggio           c   0  0  0  0  .000                         30  3  8  3
    Banks             ss  3  0  0  0  .000
                         31  1  4  1
     
    Splinters                        INN  H  R ER BB  K PCH STR   ERA
    Johnson,W        L               8.0  8  3  3  2  3 116  81  3.38
                                     8.0  8  3  3  2  3 116  81 
     
    Mwiggins                         INN  H  R ER BB  K PCH STR   ERA
    Gibson,B         W               9.0  4  1  0  1  7 102  69  0.00
                                     9.0  4  1  0  1  7 102  69 
     
    SpS: Edmonds batted for Campanella in the 8th
         Biggio inserted at c in the 8th
     
    2B-Lajoie 2, Ott. 3B-Hornsby. K-Brett, Pujols, Mize, Stargell 2, Clemente, 
    Edmonds, Hornsby, Jackson,J 2. BB-Stargell, Bonds,Ba, Sisler. PB-Dickey. 
    GWRBI: Ott
    Temperature: 70, Sky: clear, Wind: out to left at 8 MPH.
    Code:
    6/15/2009, SpS09-MW09, County Stadium (1985-00)
     
                           1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9     R  H  E   LOB DP
    2009 Splinters         1  0  3  0  1  0  0  4  0     9  8  1     3  3
    2009 Mwiggins          0  1  1  0  0  0  0  0  5     7 13  1    10  0
     
    Splinters            AB  R  H BI   AVG    Mwiggins             AB  R  H BI   AVG
    Brett             3b  5  1  1  1  .200    Henderson,R       lf  3  1  0  0  .000
    Lajoie            2b  5  2  2  0  .400    Speaker           cf  4  1  3  1  .750
    Pujols            1b  3  3  1  1  .333    Wagner,H          ss  5  1  2  4  .400
    Mize              dh  4  2  2  6  .500    Bonds,Ba          dh  3  1  1  1  .333
    DiMaggio,J        cf  3  1  1  1  .333    Hornsby           2b  5  1  1  0  .200
    Stargell          lf  4  0  0  0  .000    Jackson,J         rf  5  0  1  0  .200
     Edmonds          lf  0  0  0  0  .000    Ott               3b  4  0  0  1  .000
    Clemente          rf  4  0  1  0  .250    Bresnahan         c   4  0  1  0  .250
    Campanella        c   3  0  0  0  .000    Sisler            1b  4  2  4  0 1.000
    Banks             ss  4  0  0  0  .000                         37  7 13  7
                         35  9  8  9
     
    Splinters                        INN  H  R ER BB  K PCH STR   ERA
    Johnson,Ra       W               8.0 10  2  2  5  3 146  81  2.25
    Brewer,J                         0.0  2  4  4  2  0  17   6 99.00
    Ryan,BJ          H               0.1  0  1  0  0  1   5   4  0.00
    Wagner           S               0.2  1  0  0  0  0  10   6  0.00
                                     9.0 13  7  6  7  4 178  97 
     
    Mwiggins                         INN  H  R ER BB  K PCH STR   ERA
    Young,C          L               5.1  5  5  5  2  5  87  55  8.44
    Sutter                           1.2  0  0  0  0  1  13   9  0.00
    Smoltz                           2.0  3  4  4  2  0  37  22 18.00
                                     9.0  8  9  9  4  6 137  86 
     
    SpS: Edmonds inserted at lf in the 8th
     
    E-Clemente, Wagner,H. 2B-Sisler. HR-Brett(1), Pujols(1), Mize 2(2), 
    DiMaggio,J(1), Wagner,H(1), Bonds,Ba(1). CS-Henderson,R. K-Lajoie, Pujols, 
    Stargell 2, Clemente, Banks, Wagner,H, Bonds,Ba, Jackson,J, Bresnahan. 
    BB-Pujols 2, DiMaggio,J, Campanella, Henderson,R 2, Speaker, Bonds,Ba 2, Ott, 
    Bresnahan. 
    GWRBI: Mize
    Temperature: 70, Sky: partly cloudy, Wind: out to right at 13 MPH.
    Code:
    6/15/2009, SpS09-MW09, County Stadium (1985-00)
     
                           1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9     R  H  E   LOB DP
    2009 Splinters         0  0  0  2  0  2  0  3  0     7  9  2     3  1
    2009 Mwiggins          0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0  0     1  5  0     5  1
     
    Splinters            AB  R  H BI   AVG    Mwiggins             AB  R  H BI   AVG
    Brett             3b  4  3  2  0  .500    Henderson,R       lf  4  0  1  0  .250
    Lajoie            2b  3  1  1  0  .333    Speaker           cf  4  0  0  0  .000
    Pujols            1b  3  1  2  1  .667    Wagner,H          ss  4  0  0  0  .000
    Mize              dh  4  2  1  2  .250    Bonds,Ba          dh  4  1  1  0  .250
    DiMaggio,J        cf  3  0  2  4  .667    Hornsby           2b  4  0  1  0  .250
    Stargell          lf  4  0  0  0  .000    Jackson,J         rf  3  0  0  1  .000
     Edmonds          lf  0  0  0  0  .000    Ott               3b  3  0  0  0  .000
    Clemente          rf  4  0  1  0  .250    Dickey            c   3  0  1  0  .333
    Campanella        c   4  0  0  0  .000    Sisler            1b  2  0  1  0  .500
    Banks             ss  4  0  0  0  .000                         31  1  5  1
                         33  7  9  7
     
    Splinters                        INN  H  R ER BB  K PCH STR   ERA
    Maddux           W               9.0  5  1  1  1  6 123  73  1.00
                                     9.0  5  1  1  1  6 123  73 
     
    Mwiggins                         INN  H  R ER BB  K PCH STR   ERA
    Vance            L               7.0  6  5  5  2  7 106  70  6.43
    Gossage                          1.0  3  2  2  0  2  24  14 18.00
    Lyle                             1.0  0  0  0  0  1  10   7  0.00
                                     9.0  9  7  7  2 10 140  91 
     
    SpS: Edmonds inserted at lf in the 8th
     
    E-Lajoie, Stargell. 2B-Mize, DiMaggio,J. 3B-DiMaggio,J, Bonds,Ba. K-Lajoie, 
    Mize, Stargell 3, Clemente, Campanella 3, Banks, Henderson,R, Wagner,H 2, 
    Hornsby 2, Ott. BB-Brett, Pujols, Sisler. SH-Lajoie. SF-DiMaggio,J, 
    Jackson,J. 
    GWRBI: DiMaggio,J
    Temperature: 67, Sky: clear, Wind: in from center at 11 MPH.
    Last edited by mwiggins; 03-28-2009 at 04:52 PM.

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    this is going to be really fun. I'm away on business again, but I can most likely give my lineup settings Monday evening. Tuesday morning latest if you can wait that long.

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    Lineup posted in roster thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwiggins View Post
    The sim is all setup. 160 games, each team plays the other 5 32 times. Here's an exibition series I did with Splendid Splinter's team and mine, while I'm waiting to see if anyone else wants to provide lineups or bullpen setups.
    Sweet... I'm just curious. Is there any way you can make Greenberg and Stargell platoon like 50% of the time? I just realized that Greenberg didn't even get to bat and he's the better player. Also there's probably more RHSPs than LHSPs in this league so I would like to see Greenberg playing some righty while Stargell probably won't be playing against starting lefties.

    This will be fun. I can't wait to see who wins at the end of the season and also what kind of stats they put up.
    "Back before I injured my hip, I thought going to the gym was for wimps."
    Bo Jackson

    Actually, I think they were about the same because I lettered in all sports, and I was a two-time state decathlon champion.
    Bo Jackson

    My sophomore year I placed 2nd, and my junior and senior year - I got smart and piled up enough points between myself and second place where I didn't have to run the mile.
    Bo Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Splendid Splinter View Post
    Sweet... I'm just curious. Is there any way you can make Greenberg and Stargell platoon like 50% of the time? I just realized that Greenberg didn't even get to bat and he's the better player. Also there's probably more RHSPs than LHSPs in this league so I would like to see Greenberg playing some righty while Stargell probably won't be playing against starting lefties.

    This will be fun. I can't wait to see who wins at the end of the season and also what kind of stats they put up.
    Yes, I can set Greenberg to play say 40% of the time vs. RH.

    Edit: Just did a quick season sim with those settings, and Greenberg ended up with 352 PA's to Stargell's 332. So, I'll keep that setting unless you say otherwise.
    Last edited by mwiggins; 03-29-2009 at 02:50 PM.

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    I'm still working on mine but should have it by tommorrow or Tuesday.

    Would it be possible for me to change one of my bench picks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mwiggins View Post
    Yes, I can set Greenberg to play say 40% of the time vs. RH.

    Edit: Just did a quick season sim with those settings, and Greenberg ended up with 352 PA's to Stargell's 332. So, I'll keep that setting unless you say otherwise.
    If it's not too late mwiggins, I would like to see Greenberg to play 50 or 60% vs. RH. I want to see him with like 400 PAs or Stargell at around 250... Thanks...
    "Back before I injured my hip, I thought going to the gym was for wimps."
    Bo Jackson

    Actually, I think they were about the same because I lettered in all sports, and I was a two-time state decathlon champion.
    Bo Jackson

    My sophomore year I placed 2nd, and my junior and senior year - I got smart and piled up enough points between myself and second place where I didn't have to run the mile.
    Bo Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post
    I'm still working on mine but should have it by tommorrow or Tuesday.

    Would it be possible for me to change one of my bench picks?
    Go ahead and change it if you like... That goes for everyone else as well. It'll be for the sim and I already put our poll in the History Forum.
    "Back before I injured my hip, I thought going to the gym was for wimps."
    Bo Jackson

    Actually, I think they were about the same because I lettered in all sports, and I was a two-time state decathlon champion.
    Bo Jackson

    My sophomore year I placed 2nd, and my junior and senior year - I got smart and piled up enough points between myself and second place where I didn't have to run the mile.
    Bo Jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Splendid Splinter View Post
    If it's not too late mwiggins, I would like to see Greenberg to play 50 or 60% vs. RH. I want to see him with like 400 PAs or Stargell at around 250... Thanks...
    I'll put Greenberg at 100% vs. LHSP and 55% vs. RHSP. You did get some nice production out of the LF spot in that sim. 47 HR's and 116 RBI between the two of them.

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