Pujols could be in the same boat- he's been extremely consistent and incredibly productive his entire career. Hopefully it's legit.
It seems that right when baseball is trying to move on past the Steroid Era something comes up about a baseball player that juiced, tested positive, and whatever else. Because its Alex Rodriguez who tested positive this is huge news in the sport, which it should be. He is a face of today's game. He's marketed everywhere. I guess my question is, what do we consider the PED, steroid era and when will we finally be out of this mess? I mean, 10 years from now will people still be talking about steroids in baseball, or will that be a thing of the past?
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Cheating is cheating now matter how long or much of it you did. If you cheated at work do you think your boss would just overlook it if you said I only did it for a little while and other people were doing it before me? No you would get fired. Cheating is never okay.
Plenty of business and plenty of schooling is a mix of cooperation and competition built on abuse of alcohol and caffeine and benzodiazepine and methylphenidate and so on, which workers and students use to manage daily cycles of focus, anxiety, relaxation, sleep, etc.
(not to match lists: alcohol:focus, etc)
In general workers and students who cheat, sometimes in connivance with or manipulation of their psychiatrists, are likely to be rewarded with promotions and stipends, good evaluations and good grades.
As I recall from my time listening to "men with mikes" and "angry white males" on sports talk radio, many of us are quick to pull the old rhetoric, "You and I would be fired if we did anything like that." But how many people do have occupations like that?
(student is an occupation, the analogy is easy to extend)
Last edited by Paul Wendt; 02-18-2009 at 08:58 AM.
If we are going to compare what is done in baseball to what is done in a typcial workplace environment then first we have to define "cheating" in a normal workplace.
Like baseball there is two types of cheating. Positive cheating and negative cheating. Negative cheating is when you take away from the company or gain an advantage at the cost of your employer. Sell company secrets, steal money or supplies, falsify sales, so on and so on. In otherwords your cheating does not benefit the company and real way. Positive cheating is when your company benefits from your cheating. Overstating damage to insurance companies, padding bills, overcharging, insider trading, stealing from other companies, so on and so on.
Like baseball employers tend to come down hard on negative cheating but US companies like basebal as well have a history of being lenient when it comes to positive cheating. Depending of couse on the severity of the "cheating" and the likelihood of them getting caught.
Last edited by Brad Harris; 02-18-2009 at 05:45 PM.
Luck is the residue of design." -- Branch Rickey
It wasn't like there was one or two middle infielders that experienced a power explosion; 20 HRs became the STANDARD for a MIDDLE INFIELD ALL-STAR. If, all of a sudden, shortstops and second basemen are expected to have medium-range power, then the conditions of the game have changed, and the ready access of PEDs were one of those changes.
MLB allowed PEDs to be standard fare. They could have brought about anti-doping measures at any time; indeed, the players union may well have bought it if it had been put forth as a public health issue, and not as an inquisition, or a means to void contracts. So let's let the records stand, let's drop the inquisition, and let's have a PED policy that reflects a concern for public health, and not anti-doping sanctimony. These guys using PEDs were trying to be the best they could be, competing against peers who were doing the same thing. The moralism and Holier-Than-Thou posture of so, so many on this matter is unjust, counterproductive, and an affront to public health and baseball history.
"I do not care if half the league strikes. Those who do it will encounter quick retribution. All will be suspended and I don't care if it wrecks the National League for five years. This is the United States of America and one citizen has as much right play as another. The National League will go down the line with Robinson whatever the consequences. You will find if you go through with your intention that you have been guilty of complete madness."
NL President Ford Frick, 1947
Luck is the residue of design." -- Branch Rickey
Positive cheating does not mean "good" or "right". It means cheating to gain something as opposed to negative cheating which is cheating to lose something.
Stealing from your company is negative cheating, stealing for your company is positive cheating. Both are wrong but quite obviously your company can and at times does view the two events differently.