Every action has an equal reaction. Lose a few casual fans but the loss from them is offset by the cut in cleanup cost and an increase in ad revenues.Originally Posted by Elvis9045
Losing some fans is OK as long as you increase your advertising revenues?Originally Posted by efin98
I'd expect that from a number cruncher, but not from a baseball fan. Believe me, when you're ok with replacing fans with ad space you're in trouble. However, if they want to move the club in a few years, this could be just the thing to justify it. Kind of like what Georgia Frontiere did to the Rams in SoCal.
By the way, I hope you don't consider working-class fans like me a "casual" fan, just because we don't have a lot of cash to spend on great seats. I'm as hard-core a fan there is, but I can't afford to go to a ton of games AND pay the big bucks required to sit in the premium sections.
No I mean losing a few fans is offset by the money you would make from the ads and not having to pay for upkeep. It's a tough choice but would you rather that the fans have to pay through the nose thanks to high costs of maintaining a mostly empty stadium? Or worse- the team pull an Expos and be forced to leave because they can't afford to stay anymore?Originally Posted by Elvis9045
Actually I think it's the kind of thing that gets the ball rolling in their new stadium, like the one that was released to the public last year. They justify moving into a smaller venue of their own by showing they can handle the small venue and not the huge hulk they are currently in.However, if they want to move the club in a few years, this could be just the thing to justify it. Kind of like what Georgia Frontiere did to the Rams in SoCal.
No. I mean the casual fans who only come to a few games like when the team is facing a "big name" club. Unfortunately there are people who are hurt in the situation but sometimes you have no choice but to hurt a few for the greater good.By the way, I hope you don't consider working-class fans like me a "casual" fan, just because we don't have a lot of cash to spend on great seats. I'm as hard-core a fan there is, but I can't afford to go to a ton of games AND pay the big bucks required to sit in the premium sections.
This thread contains all of the "Is there too much Dodgers at Citi Field" talk from the Citi Field construction photos thread. Please use this thread for all further discussion on this topic.
i still don't understand that if wilpon has all his $$$$$$$ and loved ebbets field so very much, WHY DOES THIS CITIPARK LOOK NOTHING LIKE EBBETS FIELD??????????? rotunda, roshmunda. the inside of this new park looks anything BUT like ebbets field! why couldn't he have built an EXACT copy of ebbets? damn! pete
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I don't understand it either. It's like Ebbets Field and Camden Yards had a child with a marketed name slapped on it. I guess... that they wanted it to be "fan-friendly" and innovative in the 21st century but I wish they encorporated more of the ballparks from yesteryear including the Polo Grounds.
I like it as a Mets fan but it's uniqueness is questionable.
He's a Brooklyn Dodger fan. For the Mets a new "Ebbets" isn't necessary but some creativity when it came to designing it was. I will truly enjoy my time at Citi Field but even though Shea was a cookie cutter it had a personality. Maybe Citi will too- only 2 years left to find out.
New York fans are a little different though and that's why Citi Field won't be as ridiculous as some of the other parks out there today. Turner Field for example is a great field, but the stadium might as well be a carnival. There is so much to do in that stadium other than watch baseball, kids don't know how the hell to keep score because they're playing in "Tooner Field." It a crime against humanity if you ask me.
Not all New Yorkers are arrogant. Most are knowledgeable, and respectable... but then again there are the spoiled bandwagoners of the New York Yankees who all they care about is 26 rings and Derek Jeter. Let's be honest... all teams and their fans can appear arrogant but saying New York is arrogant is as ignorant as saying that Brooklyn pizza costs more then Upstate pizza.
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I was joking man, I know that not all NY fans are arrogant.
Ok... I know I overreacted but hey I'm a New Yorker so lets fugghet about it.
That's not true. There are many fan bases that have loyal fans who would sit for days watching them play. Boston is a great example. People go for the atmosphere yes, but they see their beloved Red Sox play. Same with Wrigley Field, Dodger Stadium, Busch Stadium III, that comment is a bit ignorant to other franchise's fans.
Could this be a possible homage to the rather noticable open gaps between the lower and upper decks at the Polo Grounds?
Clearly, Citi Field derives most of its inspiration from Ebbets, but could this be a subtle inspiration from the Polo Grounds?
Last edited by PeteU; 08-28-2007 at 10:29 AM.
Why put the Eddie Grant memorial in Centerfield as well? For those of you that lost your team and had to accept the Mets as a replacement I sympathize, but the Mets are all I've ever had and quite frankly, all I ever want. The treacly nostalgia for the Gi-odgers is pathetic in my opinion.
Are we Mets fans that ashamed of our history that we must continue to co-opt two teams that told NYC to go pound sand 50, that's 50 years ago?
I myself am not ashamed of the Mets (or their history...Ask Cubs (0,0), Phillies(3,1), Astros(1,0), Senators/Rangers(0,0), White Sox(1,0), Red Sox(4,1), Angels(1,1) and yes the F'n Giants(3,0) fans if they'd like to play in 4 and win 2 world series in the same time frame as the Mets).
While I have an appreciation of NY Baseball history...the Giants and Dodgers are just that history. I'm sorry for all the fans who lost their teams in 1957, but I wish they'd stop messing with my team.
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Any true NY fan of baseball, any true fan of NY baseball, in fact, any true NY'er, has every reason to be proud of our history with Jackie Robinson. That is why so, so many of us are pleased and honored this great man will be remembered WHERE HE SHOULD BE, in a NY ball park. I hope the pictures are BIG and NUMEROUS & all over the JACKIE ROBINSON ROTUNDA when I walk in after driving there on the JACKIE ROBINSON PARKWAY. NY'ers and NY baseball fans can NEVER, NEVER honor Jackie enough.
The Brooklyn Dodger & NY Giant players and achievments belong to NY baseball fans. That is why knowledgeble and true fans embrace the National League hero's of OUR past as well as their achievements and championships.
Baseball is all about history. The entire park is a tribute to our dodger and giant past. Our history includes Jackie. Thank God !
The 27 Time World Series Champions New York Yankees!