With the financial resources the Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees and mets have there is absolutely no reason for these teams not to be competitive, and because the Yankees are financially in a league of their own, not making the playoffs, or not going deep into the playoffs is an embarrassment. If you are a fan of these teams you shouldn't beat your chests when they win 90 games because it is expected. Yankee fans bristle when the subject of payroll comes up but it's a fact of life, and this competitive imbalance has destroyed baseball in a lot of cities.
Photo credit to Andrew Harts :P
now, back to our scheduled discussion on Yankee Stadium
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Yes, with the money the Yankees spend, they should be good, and they are, no team has been more successful over the past 14 seasons than the Yankees, so as a fan, you should have absolutely nothing to cry about. You actually prefer the Yankees of the 80's, that still had the highest payroll in baseball, but never made the playoffs? Hey, I love those years too, I grew up during those years, I idolized Dave Winfield, Don Mattingly, & Rickey Henderson, but I wouldn't trade the past 13 seasons for that in a million years.
Your competitive balance argument is out the window, small market teams, can and do win, and the one's that don't will win someday. And the ones that take the Yankees money and don't invest it back into their teams don't deserve to win because every team's owners are millionaires many, many times over, if they want players, they can afford to sign them too. So stop being bitter and crying, and just enjoy watching baseball games, if you can't enjoy it, don't watch, or watch minor league games.
So, where you able to roam around the stadium today? We had a discussion early last week about being able to go to every section in the park (concourses) without being stopped, because they have gates between the great hall and the field level consurse. So can the bleacher creatures roam to the field or main level concourses? Can the people in the grandstand go down to the main level and field level?
Where these put to use?
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..."I might have been given a bad break, but I've got an awful lot to live for."
those are the gates that seperate the bleachers from the rest of the stadium?
they didn't think anyone would try to jump over them or walk around them?
I'd probably be able to jump over them, but I'd probably pull a muscle in my leg. Whenever I try to jump over something, I pull a muscle in my leg, lol.
The problem is some teams can't spend more. How much money an owner is personally worth is irrelevant. If a team is run like a business, the amount of money they spend each year shouldn't be much more than the money they bring in (and, ideally, should obviously be less). An owner who is personally worth $1 billion shouldn't spend $200m of his own money, that he knows he can't re-coup, just to have a shot at winning a World Series in a given year.
The Yankees spend a lot because they make a lot. Other teams might not spend all that they make, but they're not making anywhere near what the Yankees make, so it wouldn't matter anyway.
The small market teams that have done well in recent years seems to rely on getting lucky, and having a good group of young players. It's not something you can really repeat consistently.
The best argument against a salary cap is just to look at sports that have them, and realize that even though there might appear to be more parity within the league (a nice overused word over the last few years), the champions ultimately end up being the same teams over and over. Patriots, Spurs, whatever.
If a team builds up a sort of "dynasty", the good players might take a pay-cut just to go play for that team (to keep the payroll under the cap), just so they can finally get a championship. Once that sort of thing happens, it seems hard for any other team to fight it, if they are constrained by a salary cap.
I think what the success of some small market teams each year shows is that the clubhouse culture matters. Having a team of rookies and no-names that play well as a team gives an organization just as great a chance to win as an assembled group of All-Stars (and the egos that come with them).
I'm sure there is a great overlap between the people who mocked the Yankees for missing the playoffs last year, and the people who constantly complain about a salary cap. And apparently they don't realize their hypocrisy.
Oh, and to post something on topic...
For the people who have attended games so far, what is the scalping situation like outside the stadium?
Even though I despise people who try to make money doing it, I can't say I haven't relied on them in the past to get into some games.
this gallery is f'n awesome
photo courtesy of Chris (SkyFOXHD) on PicasaWeb
here's a desktop image i made based on one of the pictures in the gallery
Was that Ruth's bat laying across home plate? Can anyone tell me the significance of it?
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