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    Jamie Moyer Cries!

    http://nationalsportsreview.com/spor...-%E2%80%98pen/
    Maybe if his ERA wasn't the worst in the league, he would have remained in the rotation. He should be thanking the Phillies they gave him a two year contract at his advanced baseball age!
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    If he's totally serious and feels he's been misled, he should ask the Phillies to release him from his contract and become a free agent.

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    I'm sorry, but Moyer has no legitimate beef. The Phils gave him oodles of chances as a starter, and he hasn't performed well this year as a whole. If Happ hadn't seriously outperformed him, or they hadn't signed Pedro Martinez or they hadn't been able to keep all the pitchers in their rotation and still acquire Cliff Lee, Moyer would still be starting. If someone gets hurt or Martinez performs worse in several starts than Moyer did, Moyer will be back to starting. The bottom line is, while the Phils intended Moyer would start, they never guaranteed that he'd start regardless of how he pitched. And, were he not upset, Jamie Moyer should readily admit he hasn't performed as well as he needed to in order to retain his spot in the rotation this year overall despite winning 10 games, especially when all those other circumstances came together. Even the signing of Martinez wasn't intended to supplant Moyer (though it worked out that way), but rather as either the replacement for Happ if he was traded or Lopez if they didn't get another starter. The Phils acted in good faith on this one, but Jamie didn't demonstrate he deserved to continue going out there to start. It's a hard business that way.
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    He is just being an example for the Phillies. Just because you accept your demotion doesn't mean you are unable to express your opinion. At the very least he is teaching the younger pitchers that it is ok for you to express your displeasure with a certain move, but it is unprofessional to sabotage your team in retalitation. It is a luxury to play in the majors and that is something Moyer never takes for granite.

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    I like Moyer. He was a tremendous asset to the Phils last year. He is a great instructor for the young guys. I was happy when the Phils resigned him but he's got no reason to complain. His numbers speak for themselves.

    Taking that long walk out to the pen every night is a heck of a lot better than being DFA'd. He should just keep quiet and be happy to still have a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1ghtinPhils View Post
    Taking that long walk out to the pen every night is a heck of a lot better than being DFA'd. He should just keep quiet and be happy to still have a job.
    Even if he loses his job, he's still owed big bucks. I didn't like when the Phillies gave him a two year contract, big waste of money (6.5 million) on that second year.
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    Considering the gift contract he got he should be the happiest man on the planet. Implicit in all dealings with players is the understanding that you have to produce at a certain level to get treated a certain way. Had Moyer been as successful this year as he was last year he would still be starting.
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    Yo, Jamie! It's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buntforahit View Post
    Even if he loses his job, he's still owed big bucks. I didn't like when the Phillies gave him a two year contract, big waste of money (6.5 million) on that second year.
    I was referring to the fact that Jamie's current contract is very heavily based on incentives, as it should be, based on appearances and innings pitched. He should be happy he was ONLY sent to the pen and should be more upset about his ERA than the Phillies "misleading" him during contract negotiations.
    "I'm flattered that so many baseball people think I'm a Hall of Famer. But what's hard to believe is how one-hundred and fifty plus people have changed their minds about me since I became eligible, because I haven't had a base hit since then." - Richie Ashburn

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    Why are so many male athletes crying nowadays? Lou Gehrig didn't cry.

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    Whining is the REAL American pastime. Always has been. Just surpassing Hypocrisy.

    All moot now. Jamie's career's done. It was some career too- Jamie Moyer was one of the more truly memorable pitchers of the past twenty years. He's a shoo-in for an appearance on a ballot five years from now. Don't think he'll actually make it, but it'll be there.

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