Our Mets Hall of Fame, election 31

[Cowtipper]

Please limit your ballot to a maximum of 15 names.

This is the thirty-first election for Our Mets Hall of Fame. Last time, we elected nobody.

For the original rules and specifications for this Hall of Fame, see:

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=83894

New, additional rules:

When voting, consider the player’s Mets career only. If you choose to vote “none of the above,” you must explain your decision or your vote will not count.

It is not necessary that you explain your other votes, however it is still encouraged that you do so.

I feel forced to note that the Veteran's Committee is a VALID election process, as a player IS eligible past 15 elections, if they meet certain criteria.

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New on the ballot:

Kevin Bass
Mike Birkbeck
Bobby Bonilla
Mark Dewey
DJ Dozier
Tom Filer
Dave Gallagher
Paul Gibson
Lee Guetterman
Eric Hillman
Pat Howell
Barry Jones
Jeff Kent
Rodney McCray
Eddie Murray
Junior Noboa
Bill Pecota
Willie Randolph
Brett Saberhagen
Dick Schofield
Steve Springer
Ryan Thompson
Joe Vitko
Chico Walker

Dropped from the last ballot:

Terry Bross
Tim Burke
Tony Castillo
Rick Cerone
Vince Coleman
Chris Donnels
Jeff Gardner
Gregg Jefferies
Terry McDaniel
Mackey Sasser
Rich Sauveur
Doug Simons
Garry Templeton
Joel Youngblood

Mets Hall of Fame:

Player:          Times on ballot:          Induction percentage:           When inducted:

Tommie Agee             2                           80.00                   8th election 
Wally Backman           2                           85.71                   20th election
Gary Carter             1                           92.31                   24th election 
Donn Clendenon          14                          85.71                   20th election
David Cone              2                           87.50                   27th election
Ron Darling             2                           84.62                   23rd election
Sid Fernandez           1                           84.62                   23rd election 
Dwight Gooden           1                           100.00                  23rd election
Jerry Grote             1                           100.00                  5th election
Bud Harrelson           1                           100.00                  4th election
Keith Hernandez         1                           100.00                  22nd election
Gil Hodges              1                           77.78                   1st election
Ron Hunt                11                          77.78                   12th election
Howard Johnson          1                           84.62                   24th election
Cleon Jones             1                           100.00                  2nd election
Dave Kingman            2                           81.25                   15th election
Ray Knight              6                           75.00                   28th election
Jerry Koosman           1                           100.00                  6th election
Ed Kranepool            1                           88.89                   1st election
Skip Lockwood           7                           85.71                   20th election
Jon Matlack             1                           81.82                   10th election
Lee Mazzilli            1                           75.00                   15th election
Tug McGraw              1                           90.00                   4th election
Felix Millan            1                           77.78                   12th election
John Milner             2 (VC)                      100.00                  2nd VC election
Jesse Orosco            2                           77.78                   19th election
Tom Seaver              1                           91.67                   6th election
Rusty Staub             1                           85.71                   11th election
John Stearns            3                           83.33                   16th election
Darryl Strawberry       1                           90.00                   22nd election
Ron Swoboda             10                          75.00                   13th election
Mookie Wilson           1                           88.89                   19th election


Manager:          Times on ballot:          Induction percentage:           When inducted:

Gil Hodges               1                           90.00                   1st Mgr. election
Davey Johnson            1                           100.00                  1st Mgr. election
Bobby Valentine          2                           100.00                  2nd Mgr. election

Holdovers:

Player:          Times on ballot:          Previous percentage:          High percentage: 

Rick Aguilera           7                       18.18                        30.77
Neil Allen              13                      18.18                        28.57 
Bruce Boisclair         6                       5.56                         12.50
Hubie Brooks            12                      63.64                        71.43
Lenny Dykstra           7                       45.45                        71.43
Dock Ellis              1                       5.56                         5.56        
George Foster           10                      9.09                         20.00
John Franco             2                       54.55                        71.43
Ed Glynn                13                      18.18                        28.57
Todd Hundley            2                       45.45                        57.14
Terry Leach             11                      18.18                        42.86
Dave Magadan            6                       27.27                        42.86
Roger McDowell          7                       63.64                        71.43
Kevin McReynolds        5                       18.18                        42.86
Kevin Mitchell          8                       18.18                        36.36
Dale Murray             2                       5.56                         7.14
Randy Myers             7                       18.18                        41.67
Bob Ojeda               6                       36.36                        54.55
Juan Samuel             3                       18.18                        18.18
Rafael Santana          8                       9.09                         23.08
Calvin Schiraldi        7                       9.09                         14.29
Pete Schourek           1                       9.09                         9.09
Doug Sisk               10                      36.36                        36.36
Tim Teufel              6                       18.18                        28.57
Frank Viola             2                       28.57                        28.57
Anthony Young           1                       9.09                         9.09

Holdovers dropped:

Gregg Jefferies...lack of support
Mackey Sasser...lack of support
Joel Youngblood...no longer eligible

Last year of eligibility:

none

Number of voters in each election:

Election 1: 18
Election 2: 8
Election 3: 9
Election 4: 10
Election 5: 9
Election 6: 12
Election 7: 10
Election 8: 10
Election 9: 10
Election 10: 11
Election 11: 14
Election 12: 9
Election 13: 8
Election 14: 15
Election 15: 16
Election 16: 12
Election 17: 14
Election 18: 18
Election 19: 9 (5 DQed)
Election 20: 7
Election 21: 8
Election 22: 10
Election 23: 13
Election 24: 13
Election 25: 11
Election 26: 13 (1 DQed)
Election 27: 16
Election 28: 12
Election 29: 7
Election 30: 11 (1 DQed)

Manager election 1: 10
Manager election 2: 11
Manager election 3: 8

[Cowtipper]

Some quick notes:

1) I have reinstituted Bruce Boisclair, Dock Ellis and Dale Murray after I egregiously took them off the ballot prematurely many elections ago.

2) I have put Frank Viola back on the ballot, I forgot to include him in election 30.

3) Mackey Sasser was actually dropped following election 29, but I didn't note it. So I am noting it now.

[Cowtipper]

My votes:

Last time, I said I probably wasn't going to be as generous in my voting. I spoke the truth...I voted for 15 people last time, but only voted for 10 this time.

Neil Allen
Bobby Bonilla - awful personality, but put up good enough offensive statistics to get a vote
Lenny Dykstra
John Franco
Terry Leach
Dave Magadan
Roger McDowell
Kevin McReynolds
Randy Myers
Bob Ojeda

Players I'm no longer supporting:

Rick Aguilera - never really played enough. He never started more than 20 games or made more than 36 appearances in a season.

Hubie Brooks - OPS+ of 92 when with the Mets. Not that great offensively.

Todd Hundley - he spent nine seasons with the Mets but had only three that I would call respectable/good: 1995, 1996 and 1997. For a guy that spent that long with the Mets, it is my opinion that he would need more than just three solid seasons to make him OMHOF worthy.

Doug Sisk - numbers only tell half the story here. His numbers as a Met look good, but he seemed to cause a nail biter when he came into games. He had 210 walks and only 163 strikeouts as a Met...for a reliever, that is terrible.

Tim Teufel - too inconsistent from year to year.

[PVNICK]

meh, other than Franco who I don't like its all one hit wonders. Probably soon I'll be back to voting for everyone that had a good year or two but for not I'm not.

[whoisonit]

What a weak pool, even with the large amount of newcomers.

Brooks & Glynn. Thats it.

Funny that you're giving up on Brooks Cowtipper. Independently, I reached the same conclusion after my last vote. This is his last shot for me.

[milladrive]

No explanations this time around. Just a little emphasis.

Hubie Brooks
Len Dykstra
John Franco
Ed Glynn ...(I keep my promises)
Roger McDowell
Kevin McReynolds
Randy Myers

[whoisonit]

Ed Glynn ...(I keep my promises)

You're a good man. This is called momentum !

[AJbaseball00024]

I voted for Lenny Dykstra, John Franco, Bob Ojeda, and Kevin Mitchell.

[Cowtipper]

Surprise, surprise...no one was elected.

[NJMetfan4life]

I can't believe I didn't see this! Sorry, I've been busy since school started again.

[milladrive]

I'm beginning to feel really guilty about missing #29.

[Joe Rigatoni]

I can't believe I didn't see this! Sorry, I've been busy since school started again.

Imho,Al Weis should be in the Mets Hall Of Fame.
None of the newcomers even come close to deserving it more than Weis.
Ed Glynn is much more enticing to vote for than these newcomers.
That is imho.

Btw,I think it's great that you used an analogy from "The Hangover."
I used two of them myself from "The Hangover" from two previous threads.
First,I said the best thing about Sean Green pitching at Citi Field is the
cool song from "The Hangover" during the Vegas casino scene that they play
while he's warming up but once he throws a pitch that's one pitch too many.
Second,when Mike Marshall was on the Mets Hall Of Fame ballot I wanted to
know which Mike Marshall did they mean? Was it the pitcher who played for
the Mets in 1981 or was it the outfielder who played for the Mets in 1990?
So then I mentioned as Zach Galifianakis said in the movie "The Hangover"
"Classic Mixup." That was one of the funniest movies I have seen in years.
On the ballot it could have easily been either Mike Marshall.Teammates of
both players were actually on the same ballot.In closing,I would just like to
add to this "Kramden's Delicious Marshall."

"You don't give up any runs,we'll guarantee you at least a tie."
~ Grote to Koosman

[MSUlaxer27]

Surprise, surprise...no one was elected.

Well, don't worry, the eight of you on the "veterans committee" will just put in who you want irrespective of our opinion and vote.

[milladrive]

Well, don't worry, the eight of you on the "veterans committee" will just put in who you want irrespective of our opinion and vote.

Clue for those who have none:

Would You Like to Join?

Would you like to be a member of Our Mets Hall of Fame Veteran's Committee? To become one, you must have participated in the regular OMHOF balloting for 10 consecutive ballots you must have voted in 15 ballots total with consecutive votes not necessary to be an OMHOFVC voting member. You will be eligible to start voting in the next VC election, which will be concurrent to election 35 (and, overlap with election 36 by a few days, if a second round is necessary). *All current members are grandfathered into the VC and do not have to fit these qualifications.

[MSUlaxer27]

Clue for those who have none:

I found out about this late. But thanks for the heads up in case I wasn't aware.

I haven't voted in ten straight yet nor fifteen overall. I will probably hit fifteen ballots around the time Ty Wigginton comes on the ballot.

[milladrive]

I haven't voted in ten straight yet nor fifteen overall. I will probably hit fifteen ballots around the time Ty Wigginton comes on the ballot.

Hehe, Wigginton.

Well, I don't make the rules, so don't hold me to this, but I have a feeling that because you're a regular here in the Metsies forum, if you were to ask Cowtipper -- and again, I can't speak for him -- I have a feeling he'd put you on the VC.

*Turns to Cowtipper*... Feel free to correct me if I'm stepping outta line here, mang.

[Cowtipper]

He only needs to vote in two more elections to make it ten straight. Since he's that close, I'm going to necessitate that he go the full 10.

[MSUlaxer27]

Hehe, Wigginton.

Well, I don't make the rules, so don't hold me to this, but I have a feeling that because you're a regular here in the Metsies forum, if you were to ask Cowtipper -- and again, I can't speak for him -- I have a feeling he'd put you on the VC.

*Turns to Cowtipper*... Feel free to correct me if I'm stepping outta line here, mang.

I wasn't going to ask for special treatment because:

1. I was afraid if my request for special treatment was granted ReyesofHope's Mr. Met head would explode and I love Mr. Met too much for that to happen and

2. I really wasn't sure what I could bring to the table of the Vets committee. I "notoriously" did not support one of your selectee's and I haven't seen that many/any pass through after 15 elections that I thought, "boy, everybody made a mistake letting him slip this far".

Thanks for your support Milladrive and (Cowtipper...two more elections seems about right.)

[milladrive]

He only needs to vote in two more elections to make it ten straight. Since he's that close, I'm going to necessitate that he go the full 10.

I graciously defer to your judgement, good sir.

I wasn't going to ask for special treatment because:

1. I was afraid if my request for special treatment was granted ReyesofHope's Mr. Met head would explode and I love Mr. Met too much for that to happen...

LOL

...and

2. I really wasn't sure what I could bring to the table of the Vets committee. I "notoriously" did not support one of your selectee's and I haven't seen that many/any pass through after 15 elections that I thought, "boy, everybody made a mistake letting him slip this far".

That's precisely what I mean when I say I like your fresh (and refreshing) insights. And I too can relate to your latter sentiment (Garrett and Ryan, for just two examples).

Thanks for your support Milladrive and (Cowtipper...two more elections seems about right.)

Quite welcome.