Frank Dwyer

[Cowtipper]

Frank Dwyer pitched from 1888 to 1899, going 176-152 with a 3.85 ERA in 365 games. He had 270 complete games and 12 shutouts over the course of his career. Furthermore, he won over 15 games nine times and over 20 games once. In 1893, he unofficially led the league in saves.

He wasn't too shabby as a hitter, batting .229 with five career home runs. Indeed, he was even used as an outfielder in 28 games, a shortstop four times, a second baseman twice and a first baseman once.

Statistically, he is similar to Guy Bush, Frank Killen, Paul Splittorff, Brickyard Kennedy, Red Donahue, Bill Sherdel, Bill Lee, Red Lucas, Bob Forsch, Pink Hawley.

What do you think about Frank Dwyer? Should he be in the Hall of Fame? Did he have Hall of Fame potential?

[Captain Cold Nose]

Exactly what is his "qualifier" here to have the poll made about him? Winning 15 games a lot?

That is not a HOF'er.

[EdTarbusz]

This is the first of your HOF polls in which I was completely unfamiliar with the player.

[Greg Maddux's Biggest Fan]

And so it continues...

[Captain Cold Nose]

And so it continues...

And so you don't have to post in these threads.

[dgarza]

This is the first of your HOF polls in which I was completely unfamiliar with the player.

Same here, but...
Frank Dwyer's failure lies in not lasting long.
Dwyer DID have a nice start in some ways. Dwyer is one of the Top 30 or so pitchers in NL Wins through age 29.

  Cnt Player             W  From  To
+----+-----------------+---+----+----+
   26 Charlie Getzien   145 1884 1892 
   27 Juan Marichal     144 1960 1967 
   28 Wilbur Cooper     142 1912 1921 
   29 Fernando Valenzue 141 1980 1990 
   30 Don Sutton        139 1966 1974 
   31 Sandy Koufax      138 1955 1965 
   32 Larry French      138 1929 1937 
   33 Clark Griffith    138 1893 1899 
   34 Frank Dwyer       138 1888 1897 
   35 Kid Gleason       138 1888 1895 
   36 Larry Dierker     137 1964 1976 
   37 Fergie Jenkins    135 1965 1972 
   38 Ed Reulbach       135 1905 1912 
   39 Ted Breitenstein  135 1892 1898 
   40 Jim Maloney       134 1960 1969 
   41 Pete Donohue      134 1921 1930 
   42 Steve Carlton     133 1965 1974

He's still a solid NO.

[EdTarbusz]

Same here, but...
Frank Dwyer's failure lies in not lasting long.
Dwyer DID have a nice start in some ways. Dwyer is one of the Top 30 or so pitchers in NL Wins through age 29.

  Cnt Player             W  From  To
+----+-----------------+---+----+----+
   26 Charlie Getzien   145 1884 1892 
   27 Juan Marichal     144 1960 1967 
   28 Wilbur Cooper     142 1912 1921 
   29 Fernando Valenzue 141 1980 1990 
   30 Don Sutton        139 1966 1974 
   31 Sandy Koufax      138 1955 1965 
   32 Larry French      138 1929 1937 
   33 Clark Griffith    138 1893 1899 
   34 Frank Dwyer       138 1888 1897 
   35 Kid Gleason       138 1888 1895 
   36 Larry Dierker     137 1964 1976 
   37 Fergie Jenkins    135 1965 1972 
   38 Ed Reulbach       135 1905 1912 
   39 Ted Breitenstein  135 1892 1898 
   40 Jim Maloney       134 1960 1969 
   41 Pete Donohue      134 1921 1930 
   42 Steve Carlton     133 1965 1974

He's still a solid NO.

When I didn't recognize him I guessed he was a 19th century player.

[nerfan]

This is the first of your HOF polls in which I was completely unfamiliar with the player.

Wow. +1 to that.

And for the record - no.

[Freakshow]

A good pitcher, but never anyone who belongs in a HOF discussion.

120+ wins 1891-98

  Cnt Player            ERA+  W   L    IP   From  To
+----+-----------------+----+---+---+------+----+----+
    1 Kid Nichols        145 249 113 3218.1 1891 1898 
    2 Cy Young           141 232 128 3203.1 1891 1898 
    3 Amos Rusie         138 204 129 2974   1891 1898 
    4 Nig Cuppy          129 139  80 1914   1892 1898 
    5 Clark Griffith     127 130  78 1847.1 1891 1898 
    6 Sadie McMahon      119 123  94 1883   1891 1897 
    7 Jack Stivetts      117 164 100 2238.2 1891 1898 
    8 Frank Dwyer        117 153 127 2390   1891 1898 
    9 Pink Hawley        112 128 130 2250.2 1892 1898 
   10 Ted Breitenstein   111 137 148 2546.1 1891 1898 
   11 Frank Killen       110 154 121 2346   1891 1898 
   12 Bill Hutchison     107 124 120 2140   1891 1897 
   13 Jouett Meekin      102 141 114 2334   1891 1898 
   14 Brickyard Kennedy  100 132 122 2202.1 1892 1898 
   15 Gus Weyhing         96 127 121 2165.1 1891 1898