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    I remember in either the '70s or '80s, keeping track of the player who had the longest tenure with his current team without ever playing for another MLB team. I seem to recall it was Bill Russell for a while and then Dave Concepcion for a while.

    I'm guessing Edgar Martinez and Cal Ripken each held the title for a while. Who holds it now and can we come up with a list dating back perhaps 40 or 50 years?
    An individual statistic is meaningful only if it is based strictly on what the player does and not on what the other players on his team do.

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    I'm guessing it's ol' Larry Wayne J.
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    Chipper is the leader with 16 seasons, but they are not consecutive. He came up for a cup of coffee in 1993, but didn't return for good until 1995. For consecutive seasons it would be Chipper and Jeter at 15 straight seasons.

    Amongst pitchers the Great Rivera stands alone at 15 straight seasons.
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    Chipper is the leader with 16 seasons, but they are not consecutive. He came up for a cup of coffee in 1993, but didn't return for good until 1995. For consecutive seasons it would be Chipper and Jeter at 15 straight seasons.

    Amongst pitchers the Great Rivera stands alone at 15 straight seasons.
    Who did Chipper, Jeter and Rivera take this title from?

    I'm sure Tony Gwynn once held the crown for this dubious distinction. Who are some who have held it between then and now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiZmaRK View Post
    I'm sure Tony Gwynn once held the crown for this dubious distinction.
    Well, probably Ripken
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    Craig Biggio had an even 20 years with the Astros when he retired after the 2007 season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiZmaRK View Post
    Who did Chipper, Jeter and Rivera take this title from?

    I'm sure Tony Gwynn once held the crown for this dubious distinction. Who are some who have held it between then and now?
    Why is it dubious? I think it's admirable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCGHOST View Post
    For consecutive seasons it would be Chipper and Jeter at 15 straight seasons.
    Mr. Posada would like a word with you.

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    Barry Larkin - 19 seasons
    Tony Gywnn - 20 seasons
    Cal Ripken Jr. - 21 seasons
    Edgar Martinez - 18 seasons
    Chipper Jones - 16 seasons
    Jorge Posada - 15 seasons
    Derek Jeter - 15 seasons
    Mariano Rivera - 15 seasons

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Tampa Bay Giants View Post
    Barry Larkin - 19 seasons
    Tony Gywnn - 20 seasons
    Cal Ripken Jr. - 21 seasons
    Edgar Martinez - 18 seasons
    Chipper Jones - 16 seasons
    Jorge Posada - 15 seasons
    Derek Jeter - 15 seasons
    Mariano Rivera - 15 seasons
    As Mikie pointed out, everyone is forgetting Biggio.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by BiZmaRK View Post
    Who did Chipper, Jeter and Rivera take this title from?
    It was John Smoltz if we don't disqualify him for the 2000 season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    As Mikie pointed out, everyone is forgetting Biggio.
    and Bagwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    As Mikie pointed out, everyone is forgetting Biggio.
    No, I didn't forget. I chose to leave him and Bagwell out.

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    Barry Larkin - 19 seasons
    Tony Gywnn - 20 seasons
    Cal Ripken Jr. - 21 seasons
    Edgar Martinez - 18 seasons
    Chipper Jones - 16 seasons
    Jorge Posada - 15 seasons
    Derek Jeter - 15 seasons
    Mariano Rivera - 15 seasons
    Now all we need is to establish when each of them started and stopped their tenure with their MLB team. Then we could list the crown holders from year to year.

    Like I said earlier, Bill Russell & Dave Concepcion each held the crown sometime in the late 70s or early 80s. Who took the crown from them and who else has held it since?

    Right now it is:
    1. Chipper Jones
    2. Mariano Rivera
    3. Derek Jeter
    4. Jorge Posada
    5. Could that be Jason Varitek?
    Last edited by BiZmaRK; 11-09-2009 at 01:31 PM.
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    Yaz retired with 23 Red Sox seasons in 1983, Jim Palmer was the leader after that for his final (19th) season with the O's. After that it was Russell till he retired in 1986, then Concepcion for two years until 1988. The it was Mike Schmidt for a year. Then George Brett (and Frank White for one year) until he retired in 1993. Then Trammell and Whitaker until '96 and '95 respectively (they were tied till Lou retired). Then Ripken till 2001. I think that's about right, but I may have missed something.

  16. I'll take a shot at this decade:

    2009- Chipper Jones
    2008- John Smoltz
    2007- Craig Biggio/John Smoltz
    2006- Biggio/Smoltz
    2005- Biggio/Smoltz
    2004- Barry larkin
    2003- Barry Larkin
    2002- Barry Larkin
    2001- Cal Ripken
    2000- Cal Ripken
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Buzzaldrin View Post
    Yaz retired with 23 Red Sox seasons in 1983, Jim Palmer was the leader after that for his final (19th) season with the O's. After that it was Russell till he retired in 1986, then Concepcion for two years until 1988. The it was Mike Schmidt for a year. Then George Brett (and Frank White for one year) until he retired in 1993. Then Trammell and Whitaker until '96 and '95 respectively (they were tied till Lou retired). Then Ripken till 2001. I think that's about right, but I may have missed something.
    Very interesting!!!

    So Tony Gwynn never held the title.

    Biggio debuted about a month before Smoltz. So Smoltz never held the title.
    An individual statistic is meaningful only if it is based strictly on what the player does and not on what the other players on his team do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiZmaRK View Post
    Now all we need is to establish when each of them started and stopped their tenure with their MLB team. Then we could list the crown holders from year to year.

    Like I said earlier, Bill Russell & Dave Concepcion each held the crown sometime in the late 70s or early 80s. Who took the crown from them and who else has held it since?

    Right now it is:
    1. Chipper Jones
    2. Mariano Rivera
    3. Derek Jeter
    4. Jorge Posada
    5. Could that be Jason Varitek?
    Jason Varitek = 13 seasons



    Concepcion debuted on Opening Day, April 6, 1970.
    His last game was September 15, 1988.
    19 seasons

    Bill Russell debuted on Opening Day, April 7, 1969.
    His last game was October 1, 1986.
    18 seasons
    Last edited by Tampa Bay Giants; 11-09-2009 at 06:32 PM.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by KCGHOST View Post
    Chipper is the leader with 16 seasons, but they are not consecutive. He came up for a cup of coffee in 1993, but didn't return for good until 1995. For consecutive seasons it would be Chipper and Jeter at 15 straight seasons.
    People were predicting that Chiiper Jones would be the 1994 Rookie Of The Year, but after a severe injury right at the end of Spring Training that year, he ended up missing the entire '94 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCGHOST View Post
    Chipper is the leader with 16 seasons, but they are not consecutive. He came up for a cup of coffee in 1993, but didn't return for good until 1995.
    But he was always in the Braves organization. There was no interruption where he was signed to another team (or no team).
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