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  • Johnny Antonelli, SP (1948-1950, 1953-1961) - 1st Year

    2 8.70%
  • Hank Bauer, RF (1948-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Clint Courtney, C (1951-1961) - 1st Year

    1 4.35%
  • Alvin Dark, SS (1946, 1948-1960) - 2nd Year

    2 8.70%
  • Joe DeMaestri, SS (1951-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Dom DiMaggio, CF (1940-1942, 1946-1953) - 9th Year

    12 52.17%
  • Walt Dropo, 1B (1949-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Bob Elliot, 3B (1939-1953) - 9th Year

    18 78.26%
  • Mike Garcia, SP (1948-1961) - 1st Year

    1 4.35%
  • Ned Garver, SP (1948-1961) - 1st Year

    1 4.35%
  • Warren Hacker, SP (1948-1958, 1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Jackie Jensen, RF (1950-1959, 1961) - 1st Year

    2 8.70%
  • Willie Jones, 3B (1947-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • George Kell, 3B (1943-1957) - 5th Year

    7 30.43%
  • Charlie Keller, LF (1939-1943, 1945-1952) - 10th Year

    10 43.48%
  • Ted Kluszewski, 1B (1947-1961) - 1st Year

    4 17.39%
  • Dutch Leonard, SP (1933-1936, 1938-1953) - 9th Year

    4 17.39%
  • Ernie Lombardi, C (1931-1947) - 15th Year

    15 65.22%
  • Sal Maglie, SP (1945, 1950-1958) - 4th Year

    3 13.04%
  • Billy Martin, 2B (1950-1953, 1955-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Gil McDougald, 2B/3B (1951-1960) - 2nd Year

    2 8.70%
  • Don Newcombe, SP (1949-1951, 1954-1960) - 2nd Year

    7 30.43%
  • Johnny Pesky, SS (1942, 1946-1954) - 8th Year

    4 17.39%
  • Allie Reynolds, SP (1942-1954) - 8th Year

    2 8.70%
  • Del Rice, C (1945-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Jim Rivera, RF (1952-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Phil Rizzuto, SS (1941-1942, 1946-1956) - 6th Year

    14 60.87%
  • Al Rosen, 3B (1947-1956) - 6th Year

    7 30.43%
  • Jerry Staley, RP (1947-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Vern Stephens, SS (1941-1955) - 7th Year

    13 56.52%
  • Chuck Stobbs, SP (1947-1961) - 1st Year

    0 0%
  • Earl Torgeson, 1B (1947-1961) - 1st Year

    1 4.35%
  • Elmer Valo, RF (1940-1943, 1946-1961) - 1st Year

    2 8.70%
  • Mickey Vernon, 1B (1939-1943, 1946-1960) - 2nd Year

    6 26.09%
  • Dixie Walker, RF (1931, 1933-1949) - 13th Year

    3 13.04%
  • Bucky Walters, SP (1934-1948, 1950) - 12th Year

    16 69.57%
  • None of the Above (Blank Ballot)

    0 0%
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Thread: BBF Progressive HoF Election: 1966

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    BBF Progressive HoF Election: 1966

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    Format and Rules
    Voting Rules:
    Voters may vote for between 0-15 candidates. Votes will be made public, and voters are encouraged to post their ballots in the thread and not view results before voting. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR BALLOT TO 15 VOTES AT MOST. EXCESS VOTES MAY RESULT IN YOUR BALLOT BEING DISQUALIFIED.
    -Blank Ballots: A "None of the Above" option is available if you believe no one is worthy and you wish to submit a blank ballot. This option is not to be taken lightly and it is strongly urged that it be used only after the utmost consideration, as non-votes carry great weight. Additionally, if using this option, please post your rationale. Failure to do so will see your vote disqualified.

    Voting Criteria: Players are to be evaluated within the context of the era in which they played and the history of the game to that point. Players are not to be held to standards that would materialize at a time beyond the year of the current election. Modern statistical analysis is permitted but must be applied strictly within historical context not to go beyond the year of the current election. Players are to be judged based solely on their playing careers. Other, non-playing contributions may be considered to the extent that they coincided with a player's playing career (such as a player/manager).

    Thoughtfulness and Editing Ballots: Please review and thoughtfully consider the candidates before voting, and make sure you have accurately filled out your ballot before submitting. Requests for editing ballots after the fact will generally not be honored. Exceptions might be made if a voter accidentally voted for the wrong player or accidentally went over the voting limit (but I strongly encourage you to do your best to prevent either from happening).

    Required Support: Players receiving at least 75% support in an election will be elected. Players need at least 5% support to appear on the next ballot.

    Player Eligibility: Players eligible for an election will have last played at least 5 years prior to the election year and have appeared in at least 10 Major League seasons. If a player appeared in less than 10 seasons, he may still be eligible if he had a minimum of 3000 PAs or 1500 IP, though extra scrutiny will be applied. Players will remain on the ballot for 15 years, provided they continue to receive at least 5% of the vote, at which point they will become indefinitely eligible for periodic elections conducted by the Veterans Committee.
    - Age Exception: For players 40 or older, they will become eligible the later of either 5 years after their last year of continuous play, or their first inactive year at age 45 or older.
    - Death Exception: For players who meet the criteria for consideration, but die before their first year of eligibility can have the five year waiting period waived and placed on the ballot the year of death.

    Election Period: Elections will close exactly one week after starting. The next election might not commence for another day or two.

    Conduct Policy: Every vote is a voter's opinion on who should be elected to the Hall of Fame. It is our responsibility as voters to be respectful towards each other. Personal attacks should not be tolerated and you should notify a moderator rather than allowing an argument to escalate and further derail discussion of the candidates.

    1966 Guide
    There are 36 candidates on the 1966 ballot - 18 holdovers and 18 first timers. First time eligible players last played in 1961 (unless qualifying under the age or death rule) or were omitted on the ballot in previous years.

    Newly Eligible (18)
    Johnny Antonelli
    Hank Bauer
    Clint Courtney
    Joe DeMaestri
    Walt Dropo
    Mike Garcia
    Ned Garver
    Warren Hacker
    Jackie Jensen
    Willie Jones
    Ted Kluszewski
    Billy Martin
    Del Rice
    Jim Rivera
    Jerry Staley
    Chuck Stobbs
    Earl Torgeson
    Elmer Valo

    Holdovers (18)
    Code:
    Player			Year of Eligibility	Previous Support	High Support		Low Support
    Alvin Dark              2nd                     12.50%                  12.50% (1965)           12.50% (1965)
    Dom DiMaggio		9th			45.83%			47.62% (1962)		30.00% (1958)
    Bob Elliot		9th			66.67%			71.43% (1962)		46.67% (1958)
    George Kell		5th			37.50%			37.50% (1965)		33.33% (1962)
    Charlie Keller		10th			50.00%			51.85% (1964)		40.00% (1957)
    Dutch Leonard		9th			20.83%			20.83% (1965)		9.52% (1962)
    Ernie Lombardi		15th			58.33%			58.33% (1965)		32.26% (1952)
    Sal Maglie		4th			8.33%			9.09% (1963)		7.41% (1964)
    Gil McDougald		2nd			12.50%			12.50% (1965)		12.50% (1965)
    Don Newcombe		2nd			41.67%			41.67% (1965)		41.67% (1965)
    Johnny Pesky		8th			25.00%			25.00% (1965)		8.33% (1959)
    Allie Reynolds		8th			12.50%			12.50% (1965)		7.41% (1960)
    Phil Rizzuto		6th			54.17%			54.55% (1963)		34.62% (1961)
    Al Rosen		6th			29.17%			30.77% (1961)		25.93% (1964)
    Vern Stephens		7th			45.83%			45.83% (1965)		34.62% (1961)
    Mickey Vernon	        2nd			20.83%			20.83% (1965)		20.83% (1965)
    Dixie Walker		13th			16.67%			16.67% (1959)		7.41% (1960)
    Bucky Walters		12th			70.83%			70.83% (1965)		40.74% (1956)
    Holdovers Dropped From Last Election (2)
    Code:
    Player			Reason			Years on Ballot		High Support		Low Support
    Bobby Avila		Lack of Support         2			7.41% (1964)		0.00% (1965)
    Tommy Bridges		End of Eligibility      15			70.83% (1965)		22.58% (1952)
    Last Year of Eligibility (1)
    Code:
    Player			High Support
    Ernie Lombardi	        58.33% (1965)
    Penultimate Year of Eligibility (0)
    Code:
    Player			High Support
    Holdovers Receiving At Least 50% in Previous Election (5)
    Code:
    Player			Previous Support	Years with At Least 50% Support
    Bob Elliot	        66.67%			7
    Charlie Keller	        50.00%			3
    Ernie Lombardi	        58.33%			3
    Phil Rizzuto	        54.17%			2
    Bucky Walters	        70.83%			8
    Hall of Famers - 192
    A total of 192 players and contributors have been elected to the BBF Progressive Hall of Fame.

    Hall of Fame Players Wing
    Players Elected - 169
    Code:
    Player			Year Elected	Election Percentage	Years on Ballot		Position	        Primary Team			        Active Years			  Total Seasons		Living/Deceased		Age at Election
    Pete Alexander		1935		93.94%			1			Pitcher		        Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1911-1930			  20			Deceased (1887-1950)	48
    Cap Anson		1902		100%			1			First Base	        Chicago White Stockings (Cubs) (NL)	1871-1897			  27			Deceased (1852-1922)	50
    Luke Appling		1955		100%		        1		        Shortstop		Chicago White Sox (AL)		        1930-1943, 1945-1950		  20		        Living - Age 59		48
    Earl Averill		1947		82.14%		        2		        Center Field		Cleveland Indians (AL)			1929-1941		          13		        Living - Age 64		45
    Frank Baker		1927		96.43%			1			Third Base	        Philadelphia Athletics (AL)		1908-1914, 1916-1919, 1921-1922	  13			Deceased (1886-1963)	41
    Ross Barnes^		1911		76.00%			11			Second Base	        Boston Red Stockings (NA)		1871-1879, 1881			  9			Deceased (1850-1915)	61
    Jake Beckley		1917		76.00%			6			First Base	        Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)			1887-1907			  20			Deceased (1867-1918)	50
    John Beckwith*`		1947 (VC)	91.67%		        VC		        Third Base		Chicago Giants (NNL)			1916-1938		          19		        Deceased (1900-1956)	47
    James Bell		1952 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Center Field		Pittsburgh Crawfords (NNL)		1922-1946		          25		        Living - Age 62		49
    Charlie Bennett		1907		75.00%			7			Catcher		        Detroit Wolverines (NL)			1878, 1880-1893			  15			Deceased (1854-1927)	53
    Lou Boudreau		1957		90.00%		        1		        Shortstop		Cleveland Indians (AL)		        1938-1952		          15		        Living - Age 49		40
    Roger Bresnahan		1925		79.17%			6			Catcher		        New York Giants (NL)			1897, 1900-1915			  17			Deceased (1879-1944)	46
    Dan Brouthers		1901		90.00%			1			First Base	        Buffalo Bisons (NL)			1879-1896, 1904			  18			Deceased (1858-1932)	50
    Mordecai Brown		1921		96.77%			1			Pitcher		        Chicago Cubs (NL)			1903-1916			  14			Deceased (1876-1948)	45
    Ray Brown*`		1957 (VC)	81.81%		        VC		        Pitcher		        Homestead Grays (I/NNL)		        1930-1948		          19		        Deceased (1908-1965)	49
    Pete Browning		1909		77.27%			9			Left Field/Center Field	Louisville Colonels (NL/AA)	        1882-1894			  13			Deceased (1861-1905)	Deceased
    Jesse Burkett		1910		92.00%			1			Left Field 	        Cleveland Spiders (NL)			1890-1895			  16			Deceased (1868-1953)	42
    Roy Campanella`		1962		95.24%		        1		        Catcher		        Brooklyn Dodgers (NL)		        1937-1945 (NeL), 1948-1957	  18		        Living - Age 45		41
    Max Carey		1934		82.14%			1			Center Field	        Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)			1910-1929			  20			Living - Age 76		44
    Bob Caruthers		1909		77.27%			9			Pitcher/Right Field	St. Louis Browns (Cardinals) (NL/AA)	1884-1893		          10			Deceased (1864-1911)	45
    Frank Chance		1932		83.33%			14			First Base	        Chicago Cubs (NL)			1898-1914			  17			Deceased (1876-1924)	Deceased
    Oscar Charleston*`	1947 (VC)	91.67%		        VC		        Center Field		Indianapolis ABCs (I/NNL)		1915-1941		          27		        Deceased (1896-1954)	51
    Cupid Childs		1920		76.92%			15			Second Base	        Cleveland Spiders (NL)			1888, 1890-1901			  13			Deceased (1867-1912)	Deceased
    Fred Clarke		1917		88.00%			1			Left Field	        Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)			1894-1915			  21			Deceased (1872-1960)	45
    John Clarkson		1901		90.00%			1			Pitcher		        Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)	        1882, 1884-1894			  12			Deceased (1861-1909)	40
    Ty Cobb			1933		96.55%			1			Center Field	        Detroit Tigers (AL)			1905-1928			  24			Deceased (1886-1961)	47
    Mickey Cochrane		1942		89.19%			1			Catcher		        Philadelphia Athletics (AL)		1925-1937			  13			Deceased (1903-1962)	38
    Eddie Collins		1935		96.67%			1			Second Base	        Chicago White Sox (AL)			1906-1930			  25			Deceased (1887-1951)	48
    Jimmy Collins		1913		82.61%			1			Third Base	        Boston Americans (Red Sox) (AL)		1895-1908			  14			Deceased (1870-1943)	43
    Roger Connor		1902		79.17%			1			First Base	        New York Giants (NL)			1880-1897			  18			Deceased (1857-1931)	45
    Andy Cooper*`		1947 (VC)	83.33%		        VC		        Pitcher			Kansas City Monarchs (NNL/NAL)		1920-1941		          22		        Deceased (1898-1941)	Deceased
    Wilbur Cooper*		1950 (VC)	75.00%		        VC	                Pitcher		        Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)		        1912-1926		          15	                Living - Age 74		58
    Stan Coveleski		1934		89.29%			2			Pitcher		        Cleveland Indians  (AL)			1912, 1916-1928			  14 			Living - Age 77		45
    Sam Crawford		1922		92.86%			1			Right Field	        Detroit Tigers (AL)	                1899-1917			  19			Living - Age 86		41
    Joe Cronin		1950		88.24%		        1		        Shortstop	        Boston Red Sox (AL)		        1926-1945		          20		        Living - Age 60		44
    Bill Dahlen		1916		88.00%			1			Shortstop	        Chicago Colts (Cubs) (NL)		1891-1911			  21			Deceased (1870-1950)	46
    Ray Dandridge*`		1962 (VC)	83.33%		        VC		        Third Base		Newark Eagles (NNL)		        1933-1949		          17		        Living - Age 53		49
    George Davis		1914		84.62%			1			Shortstop	        New York Giants (NL)			1890-1909			  20			Deceased (1870-1940)	44
    Leon Day*`		1957 (VC)	81.81%		        VC		        Pitcher/Second Base	Newark Eagles (NNL)		        1934-1943, 1946-1950		  15		        Living - Age 50		41
    Ed Delahanty		1908		96.00%			1			Left Field	        Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1888-1903			  16			Deceased (1867-1903)	Deceased
    Dizzy Dean		1948		80.77%		        3		        Pitcher		        St. Louis Cardinals (NL)		1930, 1932-1941, 1947		  12		        Living - Age 57		38
    Bill Dickey		1951		94.29%		        1		        Catcher		        New York Yankees (AL)		        1928-1943, 1946		          17		        Living - Age 59		44
    Martin Dihigo*`		1952 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Second Base/Pitcher	Cuban Stars (East) (ANL/I)		1923-1945		          23		        Living - Age 60		46
    Joe DiMaggio		1956		96.30%		        1		        Center Field		New York Yankees (AL)		        1936-1942, 1946-1951		  13		        Living - Age 52		42
    Larry Doby`		1964		92.59%		        1		        Center Field		Cleveland Indians (AL)		        1942-1943,1946 (NeL), 1947-1959	  16		        Living - Age 43		41
    Bobby Doerr		1956		88.89%		        1		        Second Base		Boston Red Sox (AL)		        1937-1944, 1946-1951		  14		        Living - Age 48		38
    Larry Doyle		1926		76.00%			2			Second Base	        New York Giants (NL)			1907-1920			  14			Living - Age 80		40
    Hugh Duffy		1918		75.00%			8			Center Field/Outfield	Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)	        1888-1891, 1904-1906	          17			Deceased (1866-1954)	52
    Buck Ewing		1902		83.33%			1			Catcher		        New York Giants  (NL)			1880-1897			  18			Deceased (1859-1906)	44
    Red Faber		1940		76.46%			3			Pitcher		        Chicago White Sox  (AL)			1914-1933			  20			Living - Age 78		52
    Bob Feller		1961		100%		        1		        Pitcher		        Cleveland Indians (AL)		        1936-1941, 1945-1956		  18		        Living - Age 48		43
    Wes Ferrell		1955		78.57%		        10		        Pitcher		        Cleveland Indians (AL)		        1927-1941		          15		        Living - Age 58		47
    Elmer Flick		1916		80.00%			1			Right Field	        Cleveland Naps (Indians) (AL)		1898-1910			  13			Living - Age 90		40
    Willie Foster*`		1947 (VC)	75.00%		        VC		        Pitcher			Chicago American Giants (ANL/NNL)	1923-1938		          16		        Living - Age 62		43
    Jimmie Foxx		1950		100%		        1		        First Base	        Philadelphia Athletics (AL)	        1925-1942, 1945		          20		        Living - Age 59		43
    Frankie Frisch		1942		91.89%			1			Second Base	        New York Giants (NL)			1919-1937			  19			Living - Age 67		43
    Pud Galvin		1903		80.77%			3			Pitcher		        Buffalo Bisons (NL)	                1875, 1879-1892			  15			Deceased (1856-1902)	Deceased
    Lou Gehrig	        1944	        100%		        1		        First Base	        New York Yankees (AL)		        1923-1939		          17	                Deceased (1903-1941)	Deceased
    Charlie Gehringer	1947		100%		        1		        Second Base		Detroit Tigers (AL)			1924-1942		          19		        Living - Age 63		44
    Josh Gibson*`		1947 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Catcher			Homestead Grays (ANL/NNL)		1929-1946		          18		        Deceased (1911-1947)	Deceased
    Jack Glasscock		1911		84.00%			11			Shortstop	        Cleveland Blues (NL)			1879-1895			  17			Deceased (1857-1947)	54
    Lefty Gomez		1962		80.95%		        15		        Pitcher		        New York Yankees (AL)		        1930-1943		          14		        Living - Age 58		54
    George Gore		1909		77.27%			9			Center Field	        Chicago White Stockings (Cubs) (NL)	1879-1892			  14			Deceased (1867-1933)	52
    Joe Gordon		1955		75.00%		        1		        Second Base		New York Yankees (AL)		        1938-1943, 1946-1950		  11		        Living - Age 51		40
    Goose Goslin            1943            93.33%                  1                       Left Field              Washington Senators (NL)                1921-1938                         18                    Living - Age 65         42
    Frank Grant*`		1947 (VC)	83.33%		        VC		        Second Base		Cuban Giants (I/MSL)			1886-1905		          20		        Deceased (1865-1937)	Deceased
    Hank Greenberg		1952		93.55%		        1		        First Base		Detroit Tigers (AL)		        1930, 1933-1941, 1945-1947	  13		        Living - Age 55		41
    Clark Griffith*		1940 (VC)	78.57%			VC			Pitcher		        Chicago Colts (Cubs) (NL)		1891, 1893-1909, 1912-1914	  20			Deceased (1869-1955)	70
    Burleigh Grimes*	1960 (VC)	76.92%		        VC		        Pitcher		        Brooklyn Robins (NL)		        1916-1934		          19		        Living - Age 73		67
    Heinie Groh		1936		81.25%			5			Third Base	        Cincinnati Reds (NL)			1912-1927			  16			Living - Age 76		47
    Lefty Grove		1946		100%		        1		        Pitcher			Philadelphia Athletics (AL)		1925-1941		          17		        Living - Age 66		46
    Stan Hack		1952		77.42%		        1		        Third Base		Chicago Cubs (NL)		        1932-1947		          16		        Living - Age 57		43
    Billy Hamilton		1906		82.61%			1			Center Field	        Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1888-1901			  14			Deceased (1866-1940)	40
    Gabby Hartnett		1946		96.30%		        1		        Catcher			Chicago Cubs (NL)			1922-1941		          20		        Living - Age 66		46
    Harry Heilmann		1937		96.18%			1			Right Field	        Detroit Tigers (AL)	                1914, 1916-1930, 1932		  17			Deceased (1894-1951)	44
    Billy Herman		1952		77.42%		        1		        Second Base		Chicago Cubs (NL)		        1931-1943, 1946-1947		  15		        Living - Age 57		43
    Pete Hill*`		1947 (VC)	91.67%		        VC		        Center Field		Chicago American Giants (I)		1899-1925		          27		        Deceased (1880-1951)	67
    Paul Hines		1904		76.00%			4			Center Field	        Providence Grays (NL)			1872-1891			  20			Deceased (1855-1935)	49
    Rogers Hornsby		1942		97.30%			1			Second Base	        St. Louis Cardinals (NL)		1915-1937			  23			Deceased (1896-1963)	45
    Carl Hubbell		1948		96.15%		        1		        Pitcher		        New York Giants (NL)			1928-1943		          16		        Living - Age 64		45
    Monte Irvin*`		1962 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Left Field		Newark Eagles (NNL)		        1937-1942,1945-1948(NeL),1949-195618		        Living - Age 47		43
    Hughie Jennings		1927		75.00%			14			Shortstop	        Baltimore Orioles (NL)			1891-1903, 1907, 1909, 1912, 1918 17			Deceased (1869-1928)	58
    Grant Johnson*`		1947 (VC)	83.33%		        VC		        Shortstop		Brooklyn Royal Giants (I)		1895-1916		          22		        Deceased (1874-1963)	73
    Walter Johnson		1932		100%			1			Pitcher		        Washington Senators (AL)                1907-1927			  21			Deceased (1887-1946)	45
    Addie Joss		1926		76.00%			15			Pitcher		        Cleveland Naps (Indians) (AL)		1902-1910			  9			Deceased (1880-1911)	Deceased
    Tim Keefe		1901		75.00%			1			Pitcher		        New York Giants (NL)			1880-1893			  14			Deceased (1857-1933)	44
    Willie Keeler		1916		92.00%			2			Right Field	        Baltimore Orioles (NL)			1892-1910			  19			Deceased (1872-1923)	44
    Joe Kelley		1920		84.62%			8			Left Field	        Baltimore Orioles (NL)			1891-1906, 1908			  17			Deceased (1871-1943)	49
    King Kelly		1902		75.00%			2			Right Field/Catcher	Chicago White Stockings (Cubs) (NL)	1878-1893		          16			Deceased (1857-1894)	Deceased
    Ralph Kiner		1960		96.30%		        1		        Left Field		Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)		        1946-1955		          10		        Living - Age 44		38
    Napoleon Lajoie		1921		96.77%			1			Second Base	        Cleveland Naps (Indians) (AL)		1896-1916			  21			Deceased (1874-1959)	47
    Tommy Leach*		1940 (VC)	85.71%			VC			Third Base/Center Field	Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)		        1898-1915, 1918			  19			Living - Age 89		63
    Bob Lemon		1964		81.48%		        2		        Pitcher		        Cleveland Indians (AL)		        1946-1958		          13		        Living - Age 46		44
    Buck Leonard*`		1952 (VC)	100%		        VC		        First Base		Homestead Grays (I/NNL)		        1933-1950		          18		        Living - Age 59		45
    John Henry Lloyd*`	1947 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Shortstop		Lincoln Giants (I/ECL)			1906-1932		          27		        Deceased (1884-1964)	63
    Herman Long*		1925 (VC)	75.00%			VC			Shortstop	        Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1889-1904			  16			Deceased (1866-1909)	Deceased
    Dick Lundy*`		1952 (VC)	81.82%		        VC		        Shortstop		Bacharach Giants (I/ECL)		1916-1939		          24		        Deceased (1898-1965)	54
    Ted Lyons		1949		80.00%		        3		        Pitcher		        Chicago White Sox (AL)		        1928-1942, 1946		          16		        Living - Age 66		49
    Biz Mackey*`		1952 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Catcher		        Hilldale Daises (ECL/ANL/I)		1920-1941, 1945-1947, 1950	  26		        Deceased (1897-1965)	55
    Sherry Magee		1924		86.21%			1			Left Field	        Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1904-1919			  16			Deceased (1884-1929)	40
    Rabbit Maranville*	1955 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Shortstop		Boston Braves (NL)		        1912-1933, 1935		          23		        Deceased (1891-1954)	Deceased
    Christy Mathewson	1922		93.55%			1			Pitcher		        New York Giants (NL)			1900-1916			  17			Deceased (1880-1925)	41
    Joe McGinnity		1913		91.30%			1			Pitcher		        New York Giants (NL)			1899-1908			  10			Deceased (1871-1929)	42
    Bid McPhee		1905		75.00%			2			Second Base	        Cincinnati Reds (NL/AA)			1882-1899			  18			Deceased (1859-1943)	42
    Cal McVey*^		1920 (VC)	83.33%			VC			Catcher/First Base	Boston Red Stockings (NA)		1871-1879			  9			Deceased (1849-1926)	71
    Joe Medwick		1953		85.29%		        1		        Left Field		St. Louis Cardinals (NL)		1932-1948		          17		        Living - Age 54		42
    Jose Mendez*`		1947 (VC)	91.67%		        VC		        Pitcher			Kansas City Monarchs (NNL)		1908-1926		          19		        Deceased (1887-1928)	Deceased
    Johnny Mize		1958		96.67%		        1		        First Base		St. Louis Cardinals (NL)		1936-1942, 1946-1953		  15		        Living - Age 53		45
    Bill Monroe*`		1947 (VC)	75.00%		        VC		        Second Base		Brooklyn Royal Giants (I)		1896-1914		          19		        Deceased (1876-1914)	Deceased
    Tony Mullane		1908		80.00%			8			Pitcher		        Cincinnati Reds (NL/AA)			1881-1894			  14			Deceased (1859-1944)	49
    Kid Nichols		1911		100%			1			Pitcher		        Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1890-1901, 1904-1906		  15			Deceased (1869-1953)	42
    Hal Newhouser		1960		85.19%		        1		        Pitcher		        Detroit Tigers (AL)		        1939-1955		          17		        Living - Age 45		39
    Jim O'Rourke		1901		90.00%			1			Left Field/Utility	New York Giants (NL)		        1872-1893, 1904			  23			Deceased (1850-1919)	51
    Alejandro Oms*`		1947 (VC)	75.00%		        VC		        Center Field		Cuban Stars (East) (ECL/ANL)		1917-1935		          19		        Deceased (1895-1946)	Deceased
    Mel Ott		        1952		100%		        1		        Right Field		New York Giants (NL)		        1926-1947		          22		        Deceased (1909-1958)	43
    Satchel Paige*`		1957 (VC)	90.91%		        VC		        Pitcher		        Kansas City Monarchs (I/NNL/NAL)	1926-1953, 1965		          28		        Living - Age 61		51
    Dickey Pearce*^		1920 (VC)	100%			VC			Shortstop	        Brooklyn Atlantics (NA)			1871-1877			  6			Deceased (1836-1908)	Deceased
    Lip Pike*^		1920 (VC)	75.00%			VC			Center Field	        Baltimore Canaries (NA)			1871-1878, 1881, 1887		  10			Deceased (1845-1926)	Deceased
    Eddie Plank		1922		92.86%			1			Pitcher		        Philadelphia Athletics (AL)		1901-1917			  17			Deceased (1875-1926)	47
    Spotswood Poles*`	1947 (VC)	83.33%		        VC		        Center Field		Lincoln Stars (I)			1909-1923		          15		        Deceased (1887-1962)	60
    Charley Radbourn	1901		95.00%			1			Pitcher		        Providence Grays (NL)			1881-1891			  11			Deceased (1854-1897)	Deceased
    Pee Wee Reese		1963		90.91%		        1		        Shortstop		Brooklyn Dodgers (NL)		        1940-1942, 1946-1958		  16		        Living - Age 48		45
    Dick Redding*`		1947 (VC)	91.67%		        VC		        Pitcher			Brooklyn Royal Giants (I/ECL)		1911-1938		          18		        Deceased (1891-1948)	56
    Sam Rice*		1955 (VC)	76.92%		        VC		        Right Field		Washington Senators (AL)		1915-1934		          20		        Living - Age 76		65
    Hardy Richardson*	1920 (VC)	91.67%			VC			Second Base/Left Field	Buffalo Bisons (NL)		        1879-1892			  14			Deceased (1855-1931)	65
    Eppa Rixey*		1955 (VC)	92.30%		        VC		        Pitcher		        Cincinnati Reds (NL)		        1912-1917, 1919-1933		  21		        Deceased (1891-1963)	64
    Jackie Robinson`	1961		96.15%		        1		        Second Base		Brooklyn Dodgers (NL)		        1945(NeL), 1947-1956		  11		        Living - Age 45		42
    Bullet Rogan*`		1947 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Pitcher			Kansas City Monarchs (NNL/NAL)		1917-1938		          22		        Living - Age 72		54
    Edd Roush               1943            76.67%                  1                       Center Field            Cincinnati Reds (NL)                    1913-1929, 1931                   18                    Living - Age 73         49
    Red Ruffing		1951		82.86%		        2		        Pitcher		        New York Yankees (AL)		        1924-1942, 1945-1947	          22		        Living - Age 61	        46
    Amos Rusie		1906		78.26%			1			Pitcher		        New York Giants (NL)			1889-1895, 1897-1898, 1901	  10			Deceased (1871-1942)	35
    Babe Ruth		1940		97.06%			1			Right Field/Left Field	New York Yankees (AL)		        1914-1935			  22			Deceased (1895-1948)	45
    Jimmy Ryan*		1930 (VC)	86.67%			VC			Center Field	        Chicago Colts (Cubs) (NL)		1885-1900, 1902, 1903		  18			Deceased (1863-1923)	Deceased
    Louis Santop*`		1947 (VC)	91.67%		        VC		        Catcher			Hilldale Daises (I)			1909-1926		          18		        Deceased (1890-1942)	Deceased
    Joe Sewell		1942		75.68%			5			Shortstop/Third Base	Cleveland Indians (AL)		        1920-1933			  14			Living - Age 67		43
    Jimmy Sheckard*         1945 (VC)       83.33%                  VC                      Left Field              Chicago Cubs (NL)                       1897-1913                         17                    Deceased (1878-1947)    67
    Al Simmons		1949		96.00%		        1		        Left Field	        Philadelphia Athletics (AL)	        1924-1944		          21		        Deceased (1902-1956)	47
    George Sisler		1935		90.91%			1			First Base	        St. Louis Browns (AL)			1915-1922, 1924-1930		  15			Living - Age 72		42
    Enos Slaughter		1964		81.48%		        1		        Right Field		St. Louis Cardinals (NL)		1938-1942, 1946-1959		  19		        Living - Age 50		48
    Hilton Smith*`		1962 (VC)	91.67%		        VC		        Pitcher		        Kansas City Monarchs (I/NAL)		1932-1948		          17		        Living - Age 54		50
    Al Spalding^		1915		80.00%			15			Pitcher		        Boston Red Stockings (NA)		1871-1878			  8			Deceased (1850-1915)	Deceased
    Tris Speaker		1933		100%			1			Center Field	        Cleveland Indians (AL)			1907-1928			  22			Deceased (1888-1958)	45
    Joe Start*^		1920 (VC)	91.67%			VC			First Base	        Providence Grays (NL)			1871-1886			  16			Deceased (1842-1927)	78
    Turkey Stearnes*`	1947 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Center Field		Detroit Stars (NNL/NAL)			1923-1942		          20		        Living - Age 65		46
    Harry Stovey		1907		75.00%			7			Left Field/First Base	Philadelphia Athletics (AA)	        1880-1893		          14			Deceased (1856-1931)	51
    Mule Suttles*`		1952 (VC)	90.90%		        VC		        First Base		Newark Eagles (NNL)		        1921, 1923-1944		          23		        Deceased (1900-1966)	51
    Ezra Sutton*		1920 (VC)	83.33%			VC			Third Base	        Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1871-1888			  18			Deceased (1850-1907)	Deceased
    Bill Terry		1941		80.00%			1			First Base	        New York Giants (NL)			1923-1936			  14			Living - Age 67		43
    Sam Thompson		1907		79.17%			5			Right Field	        Philadelphia Phillies (NL)		1885-1898, 1906			  14			Deceased (1860-1922)	47
    Cristobal Torriente*`	1947 (VC)	83.33%		        VC		        Center Field		Chicago American Giants (NNL)		1913-1928		          16		        Deceased (1893-1938)	Deceased
    Pie Traynor		1942		83.78%			1			Third Base	        Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)			1920-1937			  18			Living - Age 66		42
    Dazzy Vance		1940		76.47%			1			Pitcher		        Brooklyn Robins (Dodgers) (NL)		1915, 1918, 1922-1935		  16			Deceased (1891-1961)	48
    George Van Haltren	1918		75.00%			11			Center Field	        New York Giants (NL)			1887-1903			  17			Deceased (1866-1945)	52
    Arky Vaughan		1953		100%		        1		        Shortstop		Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)		        1932-1943, 1947-1948		  14		        Deceased (1912-1952)	Deceased
    Rube Waddell		1915		84.00%			1			Pitcher		        Philadelphia Athletics (AL)		1897, 1899-1910			  13			Deceased (1876-1914)	Deceased
    Honus Wagner		1922		92.86%			1			Shortstop	        Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)			1897-1917			  21			Deceased (1874-1955)	48
    Bobby Wallace		1925		75.00%			3			Shortstop	        St. Louis Browns (AL)			1894-1918			  25			Deceased (1873-1960)	52
    Ed Walsh		1922		89.29%			1			Pitcher		        Chicago White Sox (AL)			1904-1917			  14			Deceased (1881-1959)	41
    John Ward		1907		75.00%			7			Shortstop/Pitcher	New York Giants (NL)		        1878-1894			  17			Deceased (1860-1925)	47
    Paul Waner		1950		94.12%		        1		        Right Field	        Pittsburgh Pirates (NL)		        1926-1945		          20		        Deceased (1903-1965)	47
    Mickey Welch*		1920 (VC)	75.00%			VC			Pitcher		        New York Giants (NL)			1880-1892			  13			Deceased (1859-1941)	61
    Willie Wells*`		1952 (VC)	90.90%		        VC		        Shortstop		St. Louis Stars (NNL)		        1924-1948		          25		        Living - Age 61		47
    Zack Wheat		1932		87.50%			1			Left Field	        Brooklyn Robins (Dodgers) (NL)		1909-1927			  10			Living - Age 78		44
    Deacon White		1904		76.00%			4			Catcher/Third Base	Buffalo Bisons (NL)		        1871-1890			  20			Deceased (1847-1939)	57
    Smokey Joe Williams*`	1947 (VC)	100%		        VC		        Pitcher		        Homestead Grays (I/ANL)			1905-1932		          28		        Deceased (1895-1946)	Deceased
    Ted Williams		1960		100%		        1		        Left Field		Boston Red Sox (AL)		        1939-1942, 1946-1960		  19		        Living - Age 43		42
    Vic Willis		1919		77.78%			5			Pitcher		        Boston Beaneaters (Braves) (NL)		1898-1910			  13			Deceased (1876-1947)	43
    Jud Wilson*`		1952 (VC)	90.90%		        VC		        Third Base		Baltimore Black Sox (I/ECL/ANL)		1922-1939		          18		        Deceased (1894-1963)	53
    George Wright^		1907		75.00%			7			Shortstop	        Boston Red Stockings (NA)		1871-1882			  12			Deceased (1847-1937)	60
    Cy Young		1916		100%			1			Pitcher		        Boston Americans (Red Sox) (AL)		1890-1911			  22			Deceased (1867-1955)	49
    
    * = Elected by Veterans Committee
    ^ = Played Significantly Prior to 1871
    ` = Played in the Negro Leagues
    Players Elected by Primary Position
    Catcher (12): Charlie Bennett, Roger Bresnahan, Roy Campanella, Mickey Cochrane, Bill Dickey, Buck Ewing, Josh Gibson, Gabby Hartnett, Biz Mackey, Cal McVey, Louis Santop, Deacon White
    First Base (14): Cap Anson, Jake Beckley, Dan Brouthers, Frank Chance, Roger Connor, Jimmie Foxx, Lou Gehrig, Hank Greenberg, Buck Leonard, Johnny Mize, George Sisler, Joe Start, Mule Suttles, Bill Terry
    Second Base (16): Ross Barnes, Cupid Childs, Eddie Collins, Bobby Doerr, Larry Doyle, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gehringer, Joe Gordon, Frank Grant, Billy Herman, Rogers Hornsby, Napoleon Lajoie, Bid McPhee, Bill Monroe, Hardy Richardson, Jackie Robinson
    Third Base (10): Frank Baker, John Beckwith, Jimmy Collins, Ray Dandridge, Heinie Groh, Stan Hack, Tommy Leach, Ezra Sutton, Pie Traynor, Jud Wilson
    Shortstop (21): Luke Appling, Lou Boudreau, Joe Cronin, Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Jack Glasscock, Hughie Jennings, Grant Johnson, John Henry Lloyd, Herman Long, Dick Lundy, Rabbit Maranville, Dickey Pearce, Pee Wee Reese, Joe Sewell, Arky Vaughan, Honus Wagner, Bobby Wallace, John Ward, Willie Wells, George Wright
    Left Field (15): Jesse Burkett, Fred Clarke, Ed Delahanty, Goose Goslin, Monte Irvin, Joe Kelley, Ralph Kiner, Sherry Magee, Joe Medwick, Jim O'Rourke, Jimmy Sheckard, Al Simmons, Harry Stovey, Zack Wheat, Ted Williams
    Center Field (22): Earl Averill, James "Cool Papa" Bell, Pete Browning, Max Carey, Oscar Charleston, Ty Cobb, Larry Doby, Joe DiMaggio, Hugh Duffy, George Gore, Billy Hamilton, Pete Hill, Paul Hines, Alejandro Oms, Lip Pike, Spotswood Poles, Edd Roush, Jimmy Ryan, Tris Speaker, Turkey Stearnes, Cristobal Torriente, George Van Haltren
    Right Field (11): Sam Crawford, King Kelly, Elmer Flick, Harry Heilmann, Willie Keeler, Mel Ott, Sam Rice, Babe Ruth, Enos Slaughter, Sam Thompson, Paul Waner
    Pitcher (47): Pete Alexander, Mordecai Brown, Ray Brown, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Andy Cooper, Wilbur Cooper, Stan Coveleski, Dizzy Dean, Red Faber, Bob Feller, Wes Ferrell, Willie Foster, Pud Galvin, Lefty Gomez, Clark Griffith, Burleigh Grimes, Lefty Grove, Carl Hubbell, Walter Johnson, Addie Joss, Tim Keefe, Bob Lemon, Ted Lyons, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Jose Mendez, Tony Mullane, Hal Newhouser, Kid Nichols, Satchel Paige, Eddie Plank, Charley Radbourn, Dick Redding, Eppa Rixey, Bullet Rogan, Red Ruffing, Amos Rusie, Hilton Smith, Al Spalding, Dazzy Vance, Rube Waddell, Ed Walsh, Mickey Welch, Smokey Joe Williams, Vic Willis, Cy Young

    Players Elected by Year
    Code:
    1901 (5): Dan Brouthers, John Clarkson, Tim Keefe, Jim O’Rourke, Charley Radbourn
    1902 (4): Cap Anson, Roger Connor, Buck Ewing, King Kelly
    1903 (1): Pud Galvin
    1904 (2): Paul Hines, Deacon White
    1905 (1): Bid McPhee
    1906 (2): Billy Hamilton, Amos Rusie
    1907 (5): Charlie Bennett, Harry Stovey, Sam Thompson, John Ward, George Wright
    1908 (2): Ed Delahanty, Tony Mullane
    1909 (3): Pete Browning, Bob Caruthers, George Gore
    1910 (1): Jesse Burkett
    1911 (3): Ross Barnes, Jack Glasscock, Kid Nichols
    1912 (0):
    1913 (2): Jimmy Collins, Joe McGinnity
    1914 (1): George Davis
    1915 (2): Al Spalding, Rube Waddell
    1916 (4): Bill Dahlen, Elmer Flick, Willie Keeler, Cy Young
    1917 (2): Jake Beckley, Fred Clarke
    1918 (2): Hugh Duffy, George Van Haltren
    1919 (1): Vic Willis
    1920 (2): Cupid Childs, Joe Kelley
    - 1920 VC (7): Cal McVey, Dickey Pearce, Lip Pike, Hardy Richardson, Joe Start, Ezra Sutton, Mickey Welch
    1921 (3): Mordecai Brown, Napoleon Lajoie, Christy Mathewson
    1922 (4): Sam Crawford, Eddie Plank, Honus Wagner, Ed Walsh
    1923 (0):
    1924 (1): Sherry Magee
    1925 (2): Roger Bresnahan, Bobby Wallace
    - 1925 VC (1): Herman Long
    1926 (1): Larry Doyle
    1927 (2): Frank Baker, Hughie Jennings
    1928 (0):
    1929 (1): Addie Joss
    1930 (0):
    - 1930 VC (1): Jimmy Ryan
    1931 (0):
    1932 (3): Frank Chance, Walter Johnson, Zack Wheat
    1933 (2): Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker
    1934 (2): Max Carey, Stan Coveleski
    1935 (3): Pete Alexander, Eddie Collins, George Sisler
    - 1935 VC (0):
    1936 (1): Heinie Groh
    1937 (1): Harry Heilmann
    1938 (0):
    1939 (0):
    1940 (3): Red Faber, Babe Ruth, Dazzy Vance
    - 1940 VC (2): Clark Griffith, Tommy Leach
    1941 (1): Bill Terry
    1942 (5): Mickey Cochrane, Frankie Frisch, Rogers Hornsby, Joe Sewell, Pie Traynor
    1943 (2): Goose Goslin, Edd Roush
    1944 (1): Lou Gehrig
    1945 (0):
    - 1945 VC (1): Jimmy Sheckard
    1946 (2): Lefty Grove, Gabby Hartnett
    1947 (2): Earl Averill, Charlie Gehringer
    - 1947 Negro League Players VC (19): John Beckwith, Oscar Charleston, Andy Cooper, Willie Foster, Josh Gibson, Frank Grant, Pete Hill, Grant Johnson, John Henry Lloyd, 
    Jose Mendez, Bill Monroe, Alejandro Oms, Spotswood Poles, Dick Redding, Bullet Rogan, Louis Santop, Turkey Stearnes, Cristobal Torriente, Smokey Joe Williams
    1948 (2): Dizzy Dean, Carl Hubbell
    1949 (2): Ted Lyons, Al Simmons
    1950 (3): Joe Cronin, Jimmie Foxx, Paul Waner
    - 1950 VC (1): Wilbur Cooper
    1951 (2): Bill Dickey, Red Ruffing
    1952 (4): Hank Greenberg, Stan Hack, Billy Herman, Mel Ott
    - 1952 Negro League Players VC (8): James "Cool Papa" Bell, Martin Dihigo, Buck Leonard, Dick Lundy, Biz Mackey, Mule Suttles, Willie Wells, Jud Wilson
    1953 (2): Joe Medwick, Arky Vaughan
    1954 (0):
    1955 (3): Luke Appling, Wes Ferrell, Joe Gordon
    - 1955 VC (3): Rabbit Maranville, Sam Rice, Eppa Rixey
    1956 (2): Joe DiMaggio, Bobby Doerr
    1957 (1): Lou Boudreau
    - 1957 Negro League Players VC (3): Ray Brown, Leon Day, Satchel Paige
    1958 (1): Johnny Mize
    1959 (0):
    1960 (2): Ralph Kiner, Hal Newhouser
    - 1960 VC (1): Burleigh Grimes
    1961 (2): Bob Feller, Jackie Robinson
    1962 (2): Roy Campanella, Lefty Gomez
    - 1962 Negro League Players VC (3): Ray Dandridge, Monte Irvin, Hilton Smith
    1963 (1): Pee Wee Reese
    1964 (3): Larry Doby, Bob Lemon, Enos Slaughter
    1965 (1): Ted Williams
    - 1965 VC (0):
    Players Elected by Primary Decade
    1870s (9): Ross Barnes, Cal McVey, Dickey Pearce, Lip Pike, Al Spalding, Joe Start, Ezra Sutton, Deacon White, George Wright
    1880s (21): Cap Anson, Charlie Bennett, Dan Brouthers, Pete Browning, Bob Caruthers, John Clarkson, Roger Conner, Buck Ewing, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, George Gore, Paul Hines, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Tony Mullane, Jim O’Rourke, Charley Radbourn, Hardy Richardson, Harry Stovey, John Ward, Mickey Welch
    1890s (19): Jake Beckley, Jesse Burkett, Cupid Childs, Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Ed Delahanty, Hugh Duffy, Frank Grant, Clark Griffith, Billy Hamilton, Hughie Jennings, Joe Kelley, Herman Long, Bid McPhee, Kid Nichols, Jimmy Ryan, Amos Rusie, Sam Thompson, George Van Haltren
    1900s (24): Roger Bresnahan, Mordecai Brown, Frank Chance, Fred Clarke, Jimmy Collins, Sam Crawford, Elmer Flick, Pete Hill, Grant Johnson, Addie Joss, Willie Keeler, Napoleon Lajoie, Tommy Leach, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Bill Monroe, Eddie Plank, Jimmy Sheckard, Rube Waddell, Honus Wagner, Bobby Wallace, Ed Walsh, Vic Willis, Cy Young
    1910s (17): Pete Alexander, Frank Baker, Max Carey, Wilbur Cooper, Ty Cobb, Eddie Collins, Larry Doyle, Heinie Groh, Walter Johnson, John Henry Lloyd, Sherry Magee, Jose Mendez, Spotswood Poles, Louis Santop, Tris Speaker, Zack Wheat, Smokey Joe Williams
    1920s (25): John Beckwith, Oscar Charleston, Andy Cooper, Stan Coveleski, Red Faber, Frankie Frisch, Goose Goslin, Burleigh Grimes, Harry Heilmann, Rogers Hornsby, Dick Lundy, Biz Mackey, Rabbit Maranville, Alejandro Oms, Dick Redding, Sam Rice, Eppa Rixey, Bullet Rogan, Edd Roush, Babe Ruth, George Sisler, Joe Sewell, Cristobal Torriente, Pie Traynor, Dazzy Vance
    1930s (35): Luke Appling, Earl Averill, James "Cool Papa" Bell, Ray Brown, Mickey Cochrane, Joe Cronin, Dizzy Dean, Bill Dickey, Martin Dihigo, Wes Ferrell, Willie Foster, Jimmie Foxx, Charlie Gehringer, Lou Gehrig, Josh Gibson, Lefty Gomez, Hank Greenberg, Lefty Grove, Gabby Hartnett, Billy Herman, Carl Hubbell, Ted Lyons, Joe Medwick, Mel Ott, Satchel Paige, Red Ruffing, Al Simmons, Hilton Smith, Turkey Stearnes, Mule Suttles, Bill Terry, Arky Vaughan, Paul Waner, Willie Wells, Jud Wilson
    1940s (11): Lou Boudreau, Leon Day, Ray Dandridge, Joe DiMaggio, Bobby Doerr, Bob Feller, Joe Gordon, Stan Hack, Monte Irvin, Johnny Mize, Hal Newhouser
    1950s (8): Roy Campanella, Larry Doby, Ralph Kiner, Bob Lemon, Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson, Enos Slaughter, Ted Williams

    Players Elected by Primary Organization
    Atlanta Braves (fka Milwaukee Braves, Boston Braves, Beaneaters, Red Stockings) (NA, NL) (11): Ross Barnes, John Clarkson, Hugh Duffy, Herman Long, Rabbit Maranville, Cal McVey, Kid Nichols, Al Spalding, Ezra Sutton, Vic Willis, George Wright
    Bacharach Giants (I, ECL) (1): Dick Lundy
    Baltimore Black Sox (I, ECL, ANL) (1): Jud Wilson
    Baltimore Canaries (NA) (1): Lip Pike
    Baltimore Orioles (fka St. Louis Browns) (AL) (2): George Sisler, Bobby Wallace
    Baltimore Orioles (NL) (3): Hughie Jennings, Willie Keeler, Joe Kelley
    Boston Red Sox (fka Americans) (AL) (5): Bobby Doerr, Jimmy Collins, Joe Cronin, Ted Williams, Cy Young
    Brooklyn Atlantics (NA) (1): Dickey Pearce
    Brooklyn Royal Giants (I, ECL, NNL) (3): Grant Johnson, Bill Monroe, Dick Redding
    Buffalo Bisons (NL) (4): Dan Brouthers, Pud Galvin, Hardy Richardson, Deacon White
    Chicago American Giants (I, NNL, NSL, NAL) (3): Willie Foster, Pete Hill, Cristobal Torriente
    Chicago Cubs (fka White Stockings, Colts) (NL) (12): Cap Anson, Mordecai Brown, Frank Chance, Bill Dahlen, Clark Griffith, George Gore, Stan Hack, Gabby Hartnett, Billy Herman, King Kelly, Jimmy Ryan, Jimmy Sheckard
    Chicago Giants (NNL) (1): John Beckwith
    Chicago White Sox (AL) (5): Luke Appling, Eddie Collins, Red Faber, Ted Lyons, Ed Walsh
    Cincinnati Reds (NL, AA) (5): Heinie Groh, Bid McPhee, Tony Mullane, Eppa Rixey, Edd Roush
    Cleveland Blues (NL) (1): Jack Glasscock
    Cleveland Indians (fka Naps) (AL) (12): Earl Averill, Lou Boudreau, Stan Coveleski, Larry Doby, Bob Feller, Wes Ferrell, Elmer Flick, Addie Joss, Napoleon Lajoie, Bob Lemon, Joe Sewell, Tris Speaker
    Cleveland Spiders (NL) (2): Jesse Burkett, Cupid Childs
    Cuban Giants (I, MSL) (1): Frank Grant
    Cuban Stars (East) (I, ECL, ANL) (2): Martin Dihigo, Alejandro Oms
    Detroit Stars (I, NNL, NAL) (1): Turkey Stearnes
    Detroit Tigers (AL) (6): Ty Cobb, Sam Crawford, Charlie Gehringer, Hank Greenberg, Harry Heilmann, Hal Newhouser
    Detroit Wolverines (NL) (1): Charlie Bennett
    Hilldale Daises (I, ECL, ANL, EWL) (2): Biz Mackey, Louis Santop
    Homestead Grays (I, ANL, NNL) (4): Ray Brown, Josh Gibson, Buck Leonard, Smokey Joe Williams
    Indianapolis ABCs (I, NNL, NSL, NAL) (1): Oscar Charleston
    Kansas City Atheltics (fka Philadelphia Athletics) (AL) (7): Frank Baker, Mickey Cochrane, Jimmie Foxx, Lefty Grove, Eddie Plank, Al Simmons, Rube Waddell
    Kansas City Monarchs (I, NNL, NAL) (5): Willie Foster, Jose Mendez, Satchel Paige, Bullet Rogan, Hilton Smith
    Lincoln Giants (I, ECL, ANL) (1): John Henry Lloyd
    Lincoln Stars (I) (1): Spotswood Poles
    Louisville Colonels (NL, AA) (1): Pete Browning
    Los Angeles Dodgers (fka Brooklyn Dodgers, Robins) (NL) (6): Roy Campanella, Burleigh Grimes, Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson, Dazzy Vance, Zack Wheat
    Minnesota Twins (fka Washington Senators) (AL) (3): Goose Goslin, Walter Johnson, Sam Rice
    New York Yankees (AL) (6): Bill Dickey, Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig, Lefty Gomez, Joe Gordon, Red Ruffing, Babe Ruth
    Newark Eagles (NNL) (4): Ray Dandridge, Leon Day, Monte Irvin, Mule Suttles
    Philadelphia Athletics (AA) (1): Harry Stovey
    Philadelphia Phillies (NL) (5): Pete Alexander, Ed Delahanty, Billy Hamilton, Sherry Magee, Sam Thompson
    Pittsburgh Crawfords (NNL) (1): James "Cool Papa" Bell
    Pittsburgh Pirates (NL) (10): Jake Beckley, Max Carey, Fred Clarke, Wilbur Cooper, Ralph Kiner, Tommy Leach, Pie Traynor, Arky Vaughan, Honus Wagner, Paul Waner
    Providence Grays (NL) (3): Paul Hines, Charley Radbourn, Joe Start
    San Francisco Giants (fka New York Giants) (NL) (16): Roger Bresnahan, Roger Connor, George Davis, Larry Doyle, Buck Ewing, Frankie Frisch, Carl Hubbell, Tim Keefe, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Jim O’Rourke, Mel Ott, Amos Rusie, George Van Haltren, John Ward, Mickey Welch
    St. Louis Cardinals (fka Browns) (NL, AA) (6): Bob Caruthers, Dizzy Dean, Rogers Hornsby, Joe Medwick, Johnny Mize, Enos Slaughter
    St. Louis Stars (NNL) (1): Willie Wells

    Hall of Fame Contributors Wing
    Contributors Elected - 23
    Code:
    Contributor   	Year Elected	Contribution		Living/Deceased			Age at Election
    Doc Adams        1925		Pioneer			Deceased (1814-1899)		Deceased
    Ed Barrow        1941		General Manager		Deceased (1868-1953)		Deceased
    Alex Cartwright  1925		Pioneer			Deceased (1820-1892)		Deceased
    Henry Chadwick   1925		Writer			Deceased (1824-1908)		Deceased
    Charlie Comiskey 1925		Owner		        Deceased (1859-1931)		66
    Tom Connolly	 1956		Umpire		        Deceased (1870-1961)	        86
    Jim Creighton    1925		Pioneer			Deceased (1841-1862)		Deceased
    Rube Foster      1930		Manager/Executive	Deceased (1879-1930)		Deceased
    Miller Huggins   1941		Manager			Deceased (1879-1929)		Deceased
    William Hulbert  1925		NL President		Deceased (1832-1882)		Deceased
    Ned Hanlon       1936		Manager			Deceased (1857-1937)		79
    Ban Johnson      1936		AL President		Deceased (1864-1931)		Deceased	
    Bill Klem        1941		Umpire			Deceased (1874-1951)		67
    Kenesaw Landis	 1951		Commissioner		Deceased (1866-1944)		Deceased
    Connie Mack      1930		Manager/Owner	        Deceased (1862-1956)		68
    Joe McCarthy	 1951		Manager			Living - Age 78			64
    John McGraw      1936		Manager			Deceased (1873-1934)		Deceased
    Al Reach         1946		Owner		        Deceased (1840-1928)		Deceased
    Francis Richter  1941		Writer			Deceased (1854-1926)		Deceased
    Branch Rickey    1946		General Manager		Deceased (1881-1965)		65
    Frank Selee      1936		Manager			Deceased (1859-1909)		Deceased
    AG Spalding*     1930		Executive		Deceased (1850-1915)		Deceased
    Harry Wright     1925		Manager			Deceased (1835-1895)		Deceased
    
    * = Also elected as a player
    Contributors Elected by Primary Contribution
    Commissioner (1): Kenesaw Landis
    General Manager (2): Ed Barrow, Branch Rickey
    League President (2): William Hulbert, Ban Johnson
    Manager (6): Miller Huggins, Ned Hanlon, Joe McCarthy, John McGraw, Frank Selee, Harry Wright
    Owner (3): Charlie Comiskey, Al Reach, AG Spalding
    Pioneer (3): Doc Adams, Alex Cartwright, Jim Creighton
    Umpire (2): Tom Connolly, Bill Klem
    Writer (2): Henry Chadwick, Francis Richter

    Contributors Elected by Primary Team
    Atlanta Braves (fka Milwaukee Braves, Boston Braves, Beaneaters, Red Caps, Red Stockings) (NA, NL) (2): Frank Selee, Harry Wright
    Chicago American Giants (NNL) (1): Rube Foster
    Chicago Cubs (fka White Stockings, Colts) (NA, NL) (1): AG Spalding
    Chicago White Sox (AL) (1): Charlie Comiskey
    Excelsior of Brooklyn (NAB) (1): Jim Creighton
    Kansas City Athletics (fka Philadelphia Athletics) (AL) (1): Connie Mack
    Los Angeles Dodgers (fka Brooklyn Dodgers, Superbas) (AA, NL) (1): Ned Hanlon
    New York Knickerbockers (NAB) (2): Doc Adams, Alex Cartwright
    New York Yankees (AL) (2): Miller Huggins, Joe McCarthy
    Philadelphia Phillies (fka Quakers) (NL) (1): Al Reach
    San Francisco Giants (fka New York Giants) (NL) (1): John McGraw
    St. Louis Cardinals (AA, NL) (1): Branch Rickey

    Contributors Elected by Year
    1925 (7): Doc Adams, Alex Cartwright, Henry Chadwick, Harry Wright, William Hulbert, Charlie Comiskey, Jim Creighton
    1930 (3): Rube Foster, Connie Mack, AG Spalding
    1936 (4): Ned Hanlon, Ban Johnson, John McGraw, Frank Selee
    1941 (4): Miller Huggins, Bill Klem, Francis Richter, Ed Barrow
    1946 (3): Al Reach, Branch Rickey
    1951 (2): Kenesaw Landis, Joe McCarthy
    1956 (1): Tom Connolly
    1961 (0):

    Miscellaneous Information
    - Highest Regular Election Percentage: Cap Anson, Luke Appling, Bob Feller, Jimmie Foxx, Lou Gehrig, Charlie Gehringer, Lefty Grove, Walter Johnson, Kid Nichols, Mel Ott, Tris Speaker, Arky Vaughan, Ted Williams, Cy Young – 100%
    - Number of 1st Ballot Electees: 79
    - Most Years on Ballot Before Election: Cupid Childs, Lefty Gomez, Addie Joss, Al Spalding – 15
    - Number of Players Elected After 10 Years on Ballot: 10
    - Number of Players Lasting 15 Years on Ballot without Election: 53
    - Number of Players Elected by Veterans Committee: 17
    - Number of Players Elected by Negro League Players Veterans Committee: 33
    - Highest Percentage Among Players Not Elected: 71.43% - Bob Elliot (1962)
    - Most Regular Election Electees in One Year: 5 (1901, 1907, 1942)
    - Fewest Regular Election Electees in One Year: 0 (1912, 1923, 1928, 1930, 1931, 1938, 1939, 1945, 1954, 1959)
    - Most Veterans Committee Electees in One Year: 7 (1920)
    - Most Negro League Veterans Committee Electees in One Year: 19 (1947)
    - Fewest Veterans Committee Electees in One Year: 0 (1935, 1960)
    - Fewest Negro League Veterans Committee Electees in One Year: 3 (1957, 1962)
    - Largest Ballot: 78 Players (1901)
    - Largest Post-1915 Ballot: 50 Players (1952)
    - Smallest Ballot: 23 Players (1918)
    - Most Votes Cast: 37 (1942)
    - Fewest Votes Cast: 20 (1901)
    - Team With Most Players Elected: San Francisco Giants - 16
    - Team With Second Most Players Elected: Chicago Cubs, Cleveland Indians - 12
    - Electee with Longest Post-1871 Career: Satchel Paige, Smokey Joe Williams - 28
    - Electee with Shortest Post-1871 Career: Dickey Pearce – 8 Seasons
    - Members Elected as Both Players and Contributors: Al Spalding
    - Youngest Elected Player: Amos Rusie – Age 35
    - Oldest Elected Player: Joe Start – 78
    - Number of Posthumously Elected Players: 27
    - Number of Posthumously Elected Contributors: 16
    - Number of Living Hall of Famers: 62
    - Number of Deceased Hall of Famers: 122
    - Oldest Living Hall of Famer: Elmer Flick - Age 90
    - Deceased in Past Year: Mule Suttles (1900-1966)

    Number of Ballots Submitted in Past Elections
    Code:
    1901: 20
    1902: 24
    1903: 26
    1904: 25
    1905: 24
    1906: 23
    1907: 24
    1908: 25
    1909: 22
    1910: 25
    1911: 25
    1912: 23
    1913: 23
    1914: 26
    1915: 25
    1916: 25
    1917: 25
    1918: 24
    1919: 27
    1920: 26
    1921: 31
    1922: 28
    1923: 25
    1924: 29
    1925: 24
    1926: 25
    1927: 28
    1928: 27
    1929: 25
    1930: 25
    1931: 32
    1932: 24
    1933: 29
    1934: 28
    1935: 33
    1936: 32
    1937: 34
    1938: 30
    1939: 32
    1940: 34
    1941: 35
    1942: 37
    1943: 30
    1944: 27
    1945: 29
    1946: 27
    1947: 28
    1948: 26
    1949: 25
    1950: 34
    1951: 35
    1952: 31
    1953: 34
    1954: 32
    1955: 28
    1956: 27
    1957: 30
    1958: 30
    1959: 24
    1960: 27
    1961: 26
    1962: 21
    1963: 22
    1964: 27
    1965: 24
    Links to Past Elections
    The Hawk has landed. Congratulations, Andre Dawson. You deserved it.

    10 14 23 26 31 31 42

    What's missing? Retire #8 for Andre Dawson.

  2. DiMaggio
    Elliott
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    Rosen
    Walters

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    Ernie Lombardi
    Don Newcombe
    Johnny Pesky
    Allie Reynolds
    Phil Rizzuto
    Al Rosen
    Vern Stephens
    Mickey Vernon
    Bucky Walters
    The Hawk has landed. Congratulations, Andre Dawson. You deserved it.

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    What's missing? Retire #8 for Andre Dawson.

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    This is an actual case of the truth.

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  6. Elliott
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    Reynolds
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    RIP Harry Kalas. Thanks for 38 great years, though I wish we could have had more.

  8. Newcomer Ned Garver is one of the all-time "trailers" by team fielding support according to Clay Davenport. Poor team fielding support, measured as a rate, shows up in low DERA and high DERA+, relative to high Runs Allowed and ERA.

    poor Team Fielding support, runs per 9 innings, relative to league average
    Code:
    2000+ innings
    tField	debut
    -0.69	1901	Patten C
    -0.63	1894	Mercer W
    -0.58	1948	Garver N
    -0.56	1955	Ramos P
    -0.54	1881	Whitney J
    -0.50	1880	Wiedman S
    -0.44	1891	Breitenstein T
    -0.39	1964	Niekro P
    -0.39	1940	Hudson Sid
    -0.37	1889	McMahon S
    
    2000+ innings, debut since 1900
    tField	debut	
    -0.70	1901	Patten C
    -0.58	1948	Garver N
    -0.56	1955	Ramos P
    -0.39	1964	Niekro P
    -0.39	1940	Hudson Sid
    -0.35	1961	Wood W
    -0.33	1965	Coleman J
    -0.32	1935	Passeau C
    -0.31	1923	Smith Bob
    -0.30	1977	Honeycutt R
    Inasmuch as these sabrmetrics are valid, these are the pitchers most underrated by raw runs and earned runs measures. For Garver, part of that bottom line is
    112 ERA+
    127 DERA+

    Essentially this analysis rests on Davenport's attribution of runs to pitching and fielding. Here it is for Ned Garver's career. While he was pitching his teams yielded 101 runs below average, an above-average performance.

    -101 runs allowed, relative to league average (negative is good)
    -264 pitching
    +163 fielding
    Last edited by Paul Wendt; 11-06-2009 at 03:28 PM.

  9. Bob Elliott
    George Kell
    Dutch Leonard
    Ernie Lombardi
    Phil Rizzuto
    Al Rosen
    Vern Stephens
    Mickey Vernon
    Dixie Walker
    Bucky Walters


    1. Ernie Lombardi
    2. Vern Stephens
    3. Bob Elliott
    4. Bucky Walters
    5. Al Rosen
    6. Dixie Walker
    7. George Kell
    8. Mickey Vernon
    9. Dutch Leonard
    10. Phil Rizzuto

  10. Ballot:

    Dom DiMaggio
    Bob Elliot
    Charlie Keller
    Ted Kluszewski
    Ernie Lombardi
    Don Newcombe
    Phil Rizzuto
    Vern Stephens
    Mickey Vernon
    Bucky Walters

    After weighing the discussion on Tommy Bridges, I have determined that he does fit our HOF standards and will be supporting him when he appears on the VC ballot. Of the players I voted for this year, I am not convinced on the candidacy of Ted Kluszewski or Mickey Vernon, but voted for them this year, and would like to hear more about them and whether or not they fit our standards. Ernie Lombardi is someone I voted for based mainly on his hitting prowess. This is the 1st year I am voting for him and am unsure whether or not he will have my support when/if he gets to the VC ballot as he seems to fall in a gray area along the in/out line.

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    I'm giving this a bump to make it visible again.
    The Hawk has landed. Congratulations, Andre Dawson. You deserved it.

    10 14 23 26 31 31 42

    What's missing? Retire #8 for Andre Dawson.

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    --Ernie Lombardi is making a somewhat improbable run in his last year on the ballot. He's at 75% at the moment. I've been voting for him for several years now, but I'm a little ambivelent about his case.
    --On the plus side he is almost certainly the best catcher to debut in the 1930s. He is arguably the best hitting catcher of all time, although I wouldn't argue that point for him myself. He was a key member of back to back NL champions - perhaps the best postition player on those teams (definately the best career of any of them, but maybe not the best for those years).
    --The other side of the story is that he was not a very good defensive catcher - and that is being generous. He was maybe the worst baserunner of all time. And he had a short career, even by catcher standards.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by leecemark View Post
    --Ernie Lombardi is making a somewhat improbable run in his last year on the ballot. He's at 75% at the moment. I've been voting for him for several years now, but I'm a little ambivelent about his case.
    --On the plus side he is almost certainly the best catcher to debut in the 1930s. He is arguably the best hitting catcher of all time, although I wouldn't argue that point for him myself. He was a key member of back to back NL champions - perhaps the best postition player on those teams (definately the best career of any of them, but maybe not the best for those years).
    --The other side of the story is that he was not a very good defensive catcher - and that is being generous. He was maybe the worst baserunner of all time. And he had a short career, even by catcher standards.
    I don't think his career was that short - 1544 games caught. He also played 4+ seasons in the PCL early in his career where he caught nearly 500 games and was quite the offensive force as a catcher. Given scouting limitations of the PCL at that time, figure that's potentially at least a couple of lost Major League seasons.

    Lombardi though is an interesting case for the reasons you mention. One of the very best offensive catchers ever, but decidedly deficient in the catching aspect as well as running. I vote for him though as I think we've been overlooking catchers, especially compared to other positions. At catcher, we seem to be limited ourselves to the elite, whereas I believe we've elected the equivalents of Lombardi at some other positions (i.e. second or even third tier players). I still think we completely whiffed on Deacon McGuire who was extremely notable for his durability and productivity in the context of when he played, as well as Wally Schang who has a strong case. Put those two in with Lombardi and I'd say we've been about as fair to catcher as most other positions.

  14. catcher careers and this shadow HOF

    For what it's worth, catcher is the only fielding position where this group has yet to take anyone not in the Hall of Merit (25 total). That isn't worth much in argument specifically for Ernie Lombardi.

    Al Lopez is the only retired player with more than 12 full seasons fielding catcher (12.41). There are five with 11-12 fse, seven with 10-11 fse, then Lombardi at 9.72, rank 14 "all time" (1871-1965, majors only).

    Note that only four of the top twenty (bold) are older than Steve O'Neill and Ray Schalk.
    Code:
    Top Twenty, fse games fielding catcher, 1871-1965 major leagues
    FSE	debut	finale		
    12.41	1928	1947	Al	Lopez
    11.75	1929	1947	Rick	Ferrell
    11.67	1884	1912	Deacon	McGuire
    11.62	1922	1941	Gabby	Hartnett
    11.41	1912	1929	Ray	Schalk
    11.07	1928	1946	Bill	Dickey
    10.99	1946	1965	Yogi	Berra
    10.78	1873	1891	Pop	Snyder
    10.50	1941	1960	Jim	Hegan
    10.18	1921	1942	Luke	Sewell
    10.12	1911	1928	Steve	O'Neill
    10.08	1946	1963	Sherm	Lollar
    10.04	1931	1947	Ernie	Lombardi
    9.72	1886	1902	Wilbert	Robinson
    9.60	1928	1947	Rollie	Hemsley
    9.49	1925	1937	Mickey	Cochrane
    9.47	1913	1931	Wally	Schang
    9.20	1915	1934	Muddy	Ruel
    8.96	1884	1903	Chief	Zimmer
    8.79	1928	1945	Gus	Mancuso*
    8.79	1923	1940	Jimmie	Wilson*
    
    * tie for rank 20. They drop from the list and 
    Deacon White ranks 19 or 20 if we count professional play before 1871.
    We have elected three of the top twenty (blue - Hartnett, Dickey, and Cochrane), three from blackball (Santop, Mackey, and Gibson), and six others. Deacon White, Charlie Bennett, and Roy Campanella are in the next twenty (majors only). Bresnahan, Ewing, and McVey rank about 60, 80, and 140.
    Last edited by Paul Wendt; 11-10-2009 at 02:13 PM.

  15. Johnny Antonelli
    Alvin Dark
    Dom DiMaggio
    Bob Elliot
    George Kell
    Charlie Keller
    Ernie Lombardi
    Sal Maglie
    Gil McDonald
    Johnny Pesky
    Phil Rizzuto
    Vern Stephens
    Earl Torgeson
    Elmer Valo
    Bucky Walters

    Very generous with the votes this round. Antonelli and Dark were mainly to keep them on the ballot--if no one provides a good reason for either to be in, I will be dropping them next round.

    McDonald is in a similar boat. He misses the boat for me offensively, but I can't get over the fact that he provided quality defense at three positions (2B, 3B, SS). I don't know how much that should figure into his case, but now I have another round to mull it over.
    Last edited by Fielding Marshall; 11-13-2009 at 01:54 PM.

  16. Mongoose, I'm curious: why can't you spare room for Bob Elliot or Bucky Walters on your ballot?

  17. There are some guys who got votes who I never thought would ever, ever get votes.

  18. I'd like Mongoose to explain his ballot since it is dominated by outliers, many of whom I had to look up as I didn't even know who they were. I'm not calling for it to be disallowed. It would be nice to hear some information about these players and what their HOF cases are, however.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Fielding Marshall View Post
    Johnny Antonelli
    Alvin Dark
    Joe DiMaggio *
    Bob Elliot
    George Kell
    Charlie Keller
    Ernie Lombardi
    Sal Maglie
    Gil McDonald
    Johnny Pesky
    Phil Rizzuto
    Vern Stephens
    Earl Torgeson
    Elmer Valo
    Bucky Walters
    * That's "The Little Professor" Dominic DiMaggio now up for election.

    This year for the first time I cut below 15 votes, to 12. Seven votes departed the ballot and I dropped Al Dark after a first-year nod, leaving seven and a crisis. A crisis is a time of change but the questions is, Which change? Vote for George Kell?

    Dom DiMaggio
    Bob Elliot
    Ned Garver
    Charlie Keller
    Emil Leonard
    Ernie Lombardi
    Sal Maglie
    Don Newcombe
    Johnny Pesky
    Phil Rizzuto
    Vern Stephens
    Bucky Walters

    Regarding DiMaggio, Keller, Maglie, Newcombe, Pesky, and Rizzuto i am voting for imaginary whole major league careers.

    Above I have posted some information on newcomer Ned Garver regarding team fielding support for pitchers (#8, Garver's awesomely bad), and on Ernie Lombardi regarding career length for catchers (#14, Lombardi's not so short).

    jjpm
    >>Ernie Lombardi is someone I voted for based mainly on his hitting prowess.
    <<
    yes, Hitter.
    strong arm, bad legs at catcher.
    >>This is the 1st year I am voting for him and am unsure whether or not he will have my support when/if he gets to the VC ballot as he seems to fall in a gray area along the in/out line.
    <<
    I think I agree.

    By the way, I would get to 15 without George Kell, perhaps McDougald, Rosen, and Vernon.
    Last edited by Paul Wendt; 11-13-2009 at 10:10 AM.

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    This side of the election is closed. We've elected Bob Elliot with 78.26% of the vote in his ninth year of eligibility.
    The Hawk has landed. Congratulations, Andre Dawson. You deserved it.

    10 14 23 26 31 31 42

    What's missing? Retire #8 for Andre Dawson.

  21. Can't believe Bob Elliott made it. He's seems like one of those guys destined to never get quite the notice he deserves. Glad we're honoring him.

    Anyone interested in a new component of this project where we vote for the games truly elite and enshrine them in a separate area (on the top floor, for example)? I'm thinking we'd have these elections maybe once a decade. All inductees would be eligible and the goal is to separate the best of the best from the rest of the group.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DoubleX View Post
    Can't believe Bob Elliott made it. He's seems like one of those guys destined to never get quite the notice he deserves. Glad we're honoring him.

    Anyone interested in a new component of this project where we vote for the games truly elite and enshrine them in a separate area (on the top floor, for example)? I'm thinking we'd have these elections maybe once a decade. All inductees would be eligible and the goal is to separate the best of the best from the rest of the group.
    Ditto on Elliott. I'd particiate in your proposed new component. Do you think maybe an all-century team? Your guess is as good as mine on when to start the clock.
    Last edited by PVNICK; 11-13-2009 at 01:15 PM. Reason: additional thought(s)

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    I'd certainly participate in what's proposed. I'm a bit surprised that Elliott made it in as well, but he did.
    The Hawk has landed. Congratulations, Andre Dawson. You deserved it.

    10 14 23 26 31 31 42

    What's missing? Retire #8 for Andre Dawson.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by PVNICK View Post
    Ditto on Elliott. I'd particiate in your proposed new component. Do you think maybe an all-century team? Your guess is as good as mine on when to start the clock.
    I was thinking that when this ends we can have a few new angles, such as biggest snubs, least deserving inductees, perhaps tiers, and so forth. It would be pretty much what we normally do with Cooperstown but would use this as our context instead.

    In the meantime though, I thought we could have inner circle elections, maybe once every ten years.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Paul Wendt View Post
    * That's "The Little Professor" Dominic DiMaggio now up for election.
    Wow...my bad...

    I definitely meant Dom DiMaggio.

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