1. ## HOF Monitor

First off, I'm aware that this thread could also have gone in the HOF forum, but it's statistics-oriented, so I put it here. On Baseball Reference, there's a breakdown of how the Jamesian stat "HOF monitor" is calculated. I understand that anything Bill James does is controversial, so I'm not promoting this stat in any way; I'm just trying to figure out how to calculate it properly. According to his player page, Babe Ruth has a HOF monitor of 422 for batting and 42 for pitching. However, these are not the totals I come to when I try to calculate them. Here's what I've got:

HOF Monitor for Batting

Single Season
2.5 pts for 0.300 ≤ BA < 0.350 (min. 100 G) -- x6 ('19, '22, '28, '29, '32, '33) = 15 pts
5 pts for 0.350 ≤ BA < 0.400 (min. 100 G) -- x8 ('20, '21, '23, '24, '26, '27, '30, '31) = 40 pts
5 pts for 200+ H -- x3 ('21, '23, '24) = 15 pts
3 pts for 100+ RBI -- x13 ('19, '20, '21, '23, '24, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32, '33) = 39 pts
3 pts for 100+ R -- x12 ('19, '20, '21, '23, '24, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30, '31, '32) = 36 pts
2 pts for 30-39 HR -- x2 ('22, '33) = 4 pts
4 pts for 40-49 HR -- x7 ('23, '24, '26, '29, '30, '31, '32) = 28 pts
10 pts for 50+ HR -- x4 ('20, '21, '27, '28) = 40 pts
1 pt for 35-44 2B -- x3 ('20, '21, '24) = 3 pts
2 pts for 45+ 2B -- x1 ('23) = 2 pts

6 pts for BA -- x1 ('24 [AL only]) = 6 pts
4 pts for HR -- x12 ('18, '19, '20, '21, '23, '24, '26, '27, '28, '29, '30 [AL only], '31) = 48 pts
4 pts for RBI -- x6 ('19, '20, '21, '23, '26, '28) = 24 pts
3 pts for R -- x8 ('19, '20, '21, '23, '24, '26, '27, '28) = 24 pts

Awards and Postseason
8 pts for MVP -- x1 ('23) = 8 pts
3 pts for ASG -- x2 ('33, '34) = 6 pts
3 pts for regular on a WS team (as OF) -- x7 ('21, '22, '23, '26, '27, '28, '32) = 21 pts

Career
15 pts for 2500-2999 H
30 pts for 600+ HR
24 pts for BA ≥ 0.330

TOTAL
15+40+15+39+36+4+28+40+3+2+6+48+24+24+8+6+21+15+30 +24 = 428 pts

HOF Monitor for Pitching

Single Season
4 pts for 18-19 W -- x1 ('15) = 4 pts
8 pts for 23-24 W -- x2 ('16, '17) = 16 pts
1 pt for 2.00 ≤ ERA < 3.00 -- x4 ('15, '17, '18, '19) = 4 pts
4 pts for ERA < 2.00 -- x1 ('16) = 4 pts

2 pts for ERA -- x1 ('16 [AL only]) = 2 pts
1 pt for SHO -- x1 ('16 [AL only]) = 1 pt
0.5 pts for CG -- x1 ('17) = 0.5 pts

Awards and Postseason
2 pts for starting pitcher in WS game -- x3 (1 in '16, 2 in '18) = 6 pts
2 pts for earning W in WS game -- x3 (1 in '16, 2 in '18) = 6 pts

TOTAL
4+16+4+4+2+1+0.5+6+6 = 43.5 pts

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So I get 428 for his batting HOF monitor and 43.5 for pitching. What did I do wrong? By league leader, did James mean both leagues combined or each league separately? If he meant combined, Ruth loses the 6 pts he gained for leading the AL but not the NL in BA in 1924 and the 4 pts for HR in 1930. But 418 pts is not 422. And for pitching, he'd lose 2 pts for ERA and 1 pt for SHO in 1916, but again, 40.5 pts is not 42. If anyone could help me out with this, I'd be much obliged. Thanks!
Last edited by Nerdlinger; 03-08-2010 at 04:00 PM.

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3. One more plea for assistance?

4. I have never looked at HOF monitor before, but for batting, it appears that 3 points go to a corner outfielder if his team WINS the WS, and 1 point if they are league champions. There is ambiguity in the description as a corner outfielder gains 1 point on a league championship team, but 3 for a WS team. Since a league champion IS a WS team I take it that the 3 points is for WC.

This would bring Ruth down to 422 hitting.

5. Originally Posted by brett
I have never looked at HOF monitor before, but for batting, it appears that 3 points go to a corner outfielder if his team WINS the WS, and 1 point if they are league champions. There is ambiguity in the description as a corner outfielder gains 1 point on a league championship team, but 3 for a WS team. Since a league champion IS a WS team I take it that the 3 points is for WC.

This would bring Ruth down to 422 hitting.
That would make sense -- in '21, '22, and '26, he gets 1 pt, and in '23, '26, '27, and '32, he gets 3 pts, for a total of 15 points rather than 21. That's the 6-pt difference. Thanks! Any idea about the apparent discrepancy in his pitching HOF monitor?

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