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    Not to sound bitter, but I just noticed that this thread is 2.5 years old and has over 17,000 views, and yet only 23 people besides me have submitted ballots. Is the problem that coming up with a personal Hall is too much effort? That would be understandable, I suppose, but I would think that a lot more members of this site than 23 have a good idea of who they think belongs in the Hall and who doesn't.
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  2. #402
    I've moved all my eligible "Future Contenders" to my main list. I'm also in the process of shuffling my list as well, so I'll post an update when I'm done with that.

  3. #403
    I removed the following from my main list:

    Babe Adams
    Wally Berger
    Ken Boyer
    Cesar Cedeno
    Wilbur Cooper
    Bob Elliott
    Mark Grace
    Heinie Groh
    Tommy John
    Charley Jones
    Sparky Lyle
    Deacon McGuire
    Minnie Minoso
    Dale Murphy
    Lip Pike
    Del Pratt
    Urban Shocker
    Reggie Smith
    Rusty Staub
    Ezra Sutton
    Mickey Vernon
    Dixie Walker

    I removed Scott Rolen from my Future Contenders list. I added Miguel Cabrera, Andy Pettitte and Michael Young to my Future Contenders list.

  4. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by DJC View Post
    Not to sound bitter, but I just noticed that this thread is 2.5 years old and has over 17,000 views, and yet only 23 people besides me have submitted ballots. Is the problem that coming up with a personal Hall is too much effort? That would be understandable, I suppose, but I would think that a lot more members of this site than 23 have a good idea of who they think belongs in the Hall and who doesn't.
    Think about it more from a statistical standpoint. Of the 23 who have submitted personal HOFs, each have viewed this thread 100X or more. That is 2300-3000 of the views right there. We also have about 5000 casual users/web traffic/bots/crawlers who might click, look at one thing for a second and move on. That brings us to 7300 views. There are also about 1000 daily viewers who look at the new replies rather than individual forums and briefly click and move on. That brings the number to 17000 views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowtipper View Post
    I've moved all my eligible "Future Contenders" to my main list. I'm also in the process of shuffling my list as well, so I'll post an update when I'm done with that.
    OK, thanks! Will update the big list soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by jjpm74 View Post
    Think about it more from a statistical standpoint. Of the 23 who have submitted personal HOFs, each have viewed this thread 100X or more. That is 2300-3000 of the views right there. We also have about 5000 casual users/web traffic/bots/crawlers who might click, look at one thing for a second and move on. That brings us to 7300 views. There are also about 1000 daily viewers who look at the new replies rather than individual forums and briefly click and move on. That brings the number to 17000 views.
    I guess that makes sense. I didn't know that views from non-members (either human or bot) were being counted. Mostly I'm just griping.

    100 times or more? Wow.
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  6. #406
    Not voting for:

    Keith Hernandez
    Joe Medwick
    Minnie Minoso
    Ted Simmons

    Voting for:

    Ken Boyer
    Graig Nettles
    Deacon White

    Future (everyone, regardless of HOF status currently here):

    Carlos Beltran
    Tom Glavine
    Ken Griffey Jr.
    Vladimir Guerrero
    Derek Jeter
    Randy Johnson
    Chipper Jones
    Jeff Kent
    Greg Maddux
    Pedro Martinez
    Mike Mussina
    Albert Pujols
    Manny Ramirez
    Mariano Rivera
    Alex Rodriguez
    Ivan Rodriguez
    Scott Rolen
    Gary Sheffield
    John Smoltz
    Ichiro Suzuki
    Frank Thomas
    Jim Thome
    Last edited by EnterSandman; 10-27-2012 at 09:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnterSandman View Post
    Not voting for:

    Keith Hernandez
    Joe Medwick
    Minnie Minoso
    Ted Simmons

    Voting for:

    Ken Boyer
    Graig Nettles
    Deacon White

    Future (everyone, regardless of HOF status currently here):

    Carlos Beltran
    Tom Glavine
    Ken Griffey Jr.
    Vladimir Guerrero
    Derek Jeter
    Randy Johnson
    Chipper Jones
    Jeff Kent
    Greg Maddux
    Pedro Martinez
    Mike Mussina
    Albert Pujols
    Manny Ramirez
    Mariano Rivera
    Alex Rodriguez
    Ivan Rodriguez
    Scott Rolen
    Gary Sheffield
    John Smoltz
    Ichiro Suzuki
    Frank Thomas
    Jim Thome
    Thanks for participating, but to clarify, you're indicating who you would add and remove from the current Single Ballot HOF here, right?
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    Added Al Reach and Samuel Breadon to the Owners section of my additions.

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    Added:

    Art Fletcher (SS), Danny Murtaugh (managers), Jacob Ruppert (owners/execs/pioneers)

    Removed:

    Dick Howser

  10. #410
    I deleted Ken Boyer, Johnny Evers, and George Gore from my personal hall of fame.

    I added Miguel Cabrera, Trevor Hoffman, and Ryan Howard to Future Hall of Famers.
    Last edited by John Shoemaker; 11-08-2012 at 11:03 AM.

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    DJC, I am one of the many who have viewed this thread and not contributed. I originally had my own thread where I could discuss each and every borderline candidate, but to be honest, I just haven't had the time to type out discussions for each and every player that is marginal. I do have my own thoughts on who should be/shouldn't be in, so I should be able to come up with my own comprehensive list (although it might take a few weeks). I'll be person number 25.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar View Post
    Added Al Reach and Samuel Breadon to the Owners section of my additions.
    Quote Originally Posted by jjpm74 View Post
    Added:

    Art Fletcher (SS), Danny Murtaugh (managers), Jacob Ruppert (owners/execs/pioneers)

    Removed:

    Dick Howser
    Quote Originally Posted by John Shoemaker View Post
    I deleted Ken Boyer, Johnny Evers, and George Gore from my personal hall of fame.

    I added Miguel Cabrera, Trevor Hoffman, and Ryan Howard to Future Hall of Famers.
    Got it. I've had internet problems at home due to Sandy, but I'll update the big list next chance I get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toledo Inquisition View Post
    DJC, I am one of the many who have viewed this thread and not contributed. I originally had my own thread where I could discuss each and every borderline candidate, but to be honest, I just haven't had the time to type out discussions for each and every player that is marginal. I do have my own thoughts on who should be/shouldn't be in, so I should be able to come up with my own comprehensive list (although it might take a few weeks). I'll be person number 25.
    Thanks! No rush. And your ballot is always editable in case you change your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJC View Post
    Thanks for participating, but to clarify, you're indicating who you would add and remove from the current Single Ballot HOF here, right?
    Yes (sorry for extremely late response, I've been out from Sandy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnterSandman View Post
    Yes (sorry for extremely late response, I've been out from Sandy)
    No problem. Believe me, I sympathize.
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    Vote totals have been updated once more. The only change is that Keith Hernandez fell below the 75% line and out of the Hall.

    Any more takers?
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    I added 4 players to my personal Hall of Fame:

    Jack Morris
    Billy Pierce
    Bret Saberhagen
    Lee Smith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar View Post
    Summary of changes:

    Additions to HOF from class of 2007:

    Biggio, Bonds, Clemens, Finley, Lofton, Piazza, Schilling, Sosa, Wells

    Addition from class of 2006 (relocated to extant Hall roster): Larkin.

    Added to future contenders: Johnny Damon, Johan Santana (both should have probably been there already, but I tend to hold off on active players).
    More changes:

    Moved White, O'Day, and Ruppert to extant Hall roster.

    Added Birdie Tebbetts (Catcher/contributor) and Julio Franco (shortstop) to proposed additions.

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    Here are my Hall of Famers and non-Hall of Famers. Note these are only the one enshrined in the actual HOF - I still have to add players I want in who currently aren't in.

    Hall of Fame

    Pitchers (54)

    Pete Alexander
    Bert Blyleven
    Mordecai Brown
    Jim Bunning*
    Steve Carlton
    John Clarkson
    Stan Coveleski
    Don Drysdale*
    Dennis Eckersley*
    Reb Faber*
    Bob Feller
    Whitey Ford
    William Foster (NL)
    Pud Galvin
    Bob Gibson
    Lefty Gomez*
    Clark Griffith
    Lefty Grove
    Carl Hubbell
    Fergie Jenkins
    Walter Johnson
    Addie Joss*
    Tim Keefe
    Sandy Koufax
    Bob Lemon
    Ted Lyons*
    Juan Marichal
    Christy Mathewson
    Joe McGinnity
    Kid Nichols
    Phil Niekro
    Satchel Paige (NL)
    Jim Palmer
    Gaylord Perry
    Eddie Plank
    Old Hoss Radbourn
    Robin Roberts
    Bullet Joe Rogan (NL)
    Red Ruffing*
    Amos Rusie
    Nolan Ryan
    Tom Seaver
    Hilton Smith (NL)
    Warren Spahn
    Don Sutton
    Dazzy Vance*
    Rube Waddell
    Ed Walsh
    Mickey Welch
    Hoyt Wilhelm
    Smokey Joe Williams (NL)
    Vic Willis
    Early Wynn*
    Cy Young

    Catcher (13)

    Johnny Bench
    Yogi Berra
    Roy Campanella
    Gary Carter
    Mickey Cochrane
    Bill Dickey
    Buck Ewing
    Carlton Fisk
    Josh Gibson (NL)
    Gabby Hartnett
    Ernie Lombardi*
    Biz Mackey (NL)
    Louis Santop (NL)

    First Base (15)

    Cap Anson
    Jake Beckley*
    Dan Brouthers
    Roger Connor
    Jimmie Foxx
    Lou Gehrig
    Hank Greenberg
    Harmon Killebrew
    Buck Leonard (NL)
    Willie McCovey
    Johnny Mize
    Eddie Murray
    George Sisler*
    Bill Terry*
    Mule Suttles (NL)

    Second Base (17)

    Robbie Alomar
    Rod Carew
    Eddie Collins
    Bobby Doerr*
    Martin Dihigo (NL)
    Nellie Fox*
    Frankie Frisch
    Charlie Gehringer
    Frank Grant (NL)
    Billy Herman
    Rogers Hornsby
    Nap Lajoie
    Bill Mazerowski*
    Bid McPhee*
    Joe Morgan
    Jackie Robinson
    Ryne Sandberg

    Shortstop (20)

    Louis Aparacio*
    Luke Appling
    Dave Bancroft*
    Ernie Banks
    Lou Boudreau*
    Joe Cronin
    George Davis
    Barry Larkin
    John Pop Lloyd (NL)
    Rabbit Maranville*
    Pee Wee Reese
    Cal Ripken
    Joe Sewell*
    Ozzie Smith
    Joe Tinker*
    Arky Vaughn
    Honus Wagner
    Bobby Wallace
    Willie Wells (NL)
    Robin Yount



    Third Base (10)

    Home Run Baker
    Wade Boggs
    George Brett
    Eddie Mathews
    Paul Molitor
    Brooks Robinson
    Ron Santo
    Mike Schmidt
    Pie Traynor
    Jud Wilson (NL)

    Leftfield (16)

    Jesse Burkett
    Fred Clarke
    Ed Delahanty
    Goose Goslin
    Rickey Henderson
    Monte Irvin (NL)
    Ralph Kiner
    Stan Musial
    Jim O’Rourke
    Al Simmons
    Willie Stargell
    Turkey Stearnes (NL)
    Zack Wheat
    Billy Williams
    Ted Williams
    Carl Yastrzemski

    Centerfield (15)

    Richie Ashburn
    Earl Averill*
    Cool Papa Bell (NL)
    Oscar Charleston (NL)
    Ty Cobb
    Andre Dawson*
    Joe DiMaggio
    Larry Doby*
    Billy Hamilton
    Mickey Mantle
    Willie Mays
    Edd Roush*
    Duke Snider
    Tris Speaker
    Cristobal Torriente (NL)


    Rightfield (18)

    Henry Aaron
    Roberto Clemente
    Sam Crawford
    Tony Gwynn
    Harry Heilmann
    Reggie Jackson
    Al Kaline
    Willie Keeler
    King Kelly*
    Joe Medwick*
    Mel Ott
    Sam Rice*
    Frank Robinson
    Babe Ruth
    Enos Slaughter*
    Sam Thompson
    Paul Waner
    Dave Winfield





    Not in my Hall of Fame

    Pitchers

    Chief Bender*
    Ray Brown (NL)
    Jack Chesbro
    Andy Cooper (NL)
    Leon Day (NL)
    Dizzy Dean
    Rollie Fingers
    Rich Gossage
    Burleigh Grimes*
    Jesse Haines
    Waite Hoyt
    Catfish Hunter
    Rube Marquard
    Jose Mendez (NL)
    Hal Newhouser
    Herb Pennock*
    Eppa Rixey*
    Bruce Sutter

    Catcher

    Roger Bresnahan
    Rick Ferrell
    Ray Schalk*

    First Base

    Jim Bottomley
    Orlando Cepeda
    Frank Chance
    George High Pockets Kelly
    Tony Perez
    Ben Taylor (NL)

    Second Base

    Johnny Evers
    Joe Gordon
    Tony Lazzeri*
    Red Schoendienst*

    Shortstop

    Travis Jackson
    Hugh Jennings
    Phil Rizzuto*
    Monte Ward

    Third Base

    Jimmy Collins*
    Ray Dandridge (NL)
    Judy Johnson (NL)
    George Kell
    Freddie Lindstrom

    Leftfield

    Lou Brock
    Chick Hafey
    Heinie Manush
    Tommy McCarthy
    Jim Rice

    Centerfield

    Willard Brown (NL)
    Max Carey
    Earl Coombs
    Pete Hill (NL)
    Kirby Puckett
    Lloyd Waner
    Hack Wilson

    Rightfield

    Kiki Cuyler*
    Hugh Duffy
    Elmer Flick*
    Harry Hooper*
    Joe Kelley*
    Chuck Klein
    Ross Youngs

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    I'll get to the contributors later:

    1860s: Jim Creighton

    1870s: Ross Barnes, Cal McVey, Lip Pike, Al Spalding, Joe Start, Ezra Sutton, Deacon White, George Wright

    1880s: Cap Anson, Charlie Bennett, Dan Brouthers, Pete Browning, Bob Caruthers,
    John Clarkson, Roger Conner, Buck Ewing, Pud Galvin, Jack Glasscock, George Gore,
    Paul Hines, Charley Jones, Tim Keefe, King Kelly, Tony Mullane, Jim McCormick, Jim O’Rourke,
    Charley Radbourn, Hardy Richardson, Harry Stovey, John Ward, Mickey Welch

    1890s: Jake Beckley, Jesse Burkett, Cupid Childs, Bill Dahlen, George Davis, Ed Delahanty,
    Hugh Duffy, Frank Grant, Clark Griffith, Billy Hamilton, Hughie Jennings, Joe Kelley,
    Herman Long, John McGraw, Bid McPhee, Kid Nichols, Amos Rusie, Sam Thompson, Cy Young

    1900s: Chief Bender, Roger Bresnahan, Mordecai Brown, Frank Chance, Fred Clarke,
    Jimmy Collins, Sam Crawford, Elmer Flick, Pete Hill, Grant Johnson, Addie Joss, Willie Keeler,
    Napoleon Lajoie, Christy Mathewson, Joe McGinnity, Bill Monroe, Eddie Plank, Rube Waddell,
    Honus Wagner, Bobby Wallace, Ed Walsh, Vic Willis

    1910s: Pete Alexander, Frank Baker, Max Carey, Wilbur Cooper, Ty Cobb, Eddie Collins,
    Heinie Groh, Walter Johnson, John Henry Lloyd, Sherry Magee, Jose Mendez, Spotswood
    Poles, Louis Santop, Tris Speaker, Zack Wheat, Smokey Joe Williams

    1920s: John Beckwith, Oscar Charleston, Andy Cooper, Stan Coveleski, Red Faber,
    Frankie Frisch, Goose Goslin, Burleigh Grimes, Harry Heilmann, Rogers Hornsby, Dick Lundy,
    Biz Mackey, Rabbit Maranville, Carl Mays, Alejandro Oms, Dick Redding, Eppa Rixey,
    Bullet Rogan, Edd Roush, Babe Ruth, George Sisler, Joe Sewell, Chino Smith,
    Cristobal Torriente, Pie Traynor, Dazzy Vance

    1930s: Luke Appling, Earl Averill, James "Cool Papa" Bell, Wally Berger, Ray Brown,
    Mickey Cochrane, Joe Cronin, Dizzy Dean, Bill Dickey, Martin Dihigo, Wes Ferrell, Willie Foster,
    Jimmie Foxx, Charlie Gehringer, Lou Gehrig, Josh Gibson, Lefty Gomez, Hank Greenberg,
    Lefty Grove, Gabby Hartnett, Billy Herman, Carl Hubbell, Judy Johnson, Tony Lazzeri,
    Ted Lyons, Joe Medwick, Mel Ott, Satchel Paige, Red Ruffing, Al Simmons, Hilton Smith,
    Turkey Stearnes, Mule Suttles, Bill Terry, Quincy Trouppe, Arky Vaughan, Paul Waner, Willie Wells, Jud Wilson

    1940s: Lou Boudreau, Willard Brown, Leon Day, Ray Dandridge, Joe DiMaggio, Bobby Doerr,
    Bob Elliott, Bob Feller, Joe Gordon, Stan Hack, Monte Irvin, Buck Leonard, Johnny Mize,
    Hal Newhouser, Pee Wee Reese, Vern Stephens, Ted Williams

    1950s: Richie Ashburn, Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella, Larry Doby, Whitey Ford, Nellie Fox,
    Ralph Kiner, Bob Lemon, Mickey Mantle, Eddie Mathews, Minnie Minoso, Stan Musial,
    Billy Pierce, Robin Roberts, Jackie Robinson, Enos Slaughter, Duke Snider, Warren Spahn,
    Early Wynn

    1960s: Hank Aaron, Dick Allen, Luis Aparicio, Ernie Banks, Ken Boyer, Lou Brock, Jim Bunning,
    Norm Cash, Orlando Cepeda, Roberto Clemente, Don Drysdale, Bill Freehan, Bob Gibson,
    Al Kaline, Harmon Killebrew, Sandy Koufax, Juan Marichal, Willie Mays, Willie McCovey,
    Brooks Robinson, Frank Robinson, Ron Santo, Joe Torre, Hoyt Wilhelm, Billy Williams, Maury Wills,
    Carl Yastrzemski

    1970s: Johnny Bench, Bert Blyleven, Bobby Bonds, Rod Carew, Steve Carlton, Rollie Fingers, Carlton Fisk, Bobby Grich, Reggie Jackson, Fergie Jenkins, Sparky Lyle, Joe Morgan, Graig Nettles, Phil Niekro,Jim Palmer, Tony Perez, Gaylord Perry, Nolan Ryan, Mike Schmidt,
    Tom Seaver, Ted Simmons, Reggie Smith, Willie Stargell, Don Sutton, Luis Tiant, Jimmy Wynn

    1980s: Buddy Bell, George Brett, Wade Boggs, Gary Carter, Dennis Eckersley, Dwight Evans,
    Rich Gossage, Rickey Henderson, Keith Hernandez, Paul Molitor, Eddie Murray, Kirby Puckett,
    Tim Raines, Willie Randolph, Cal Ripken, Ryne Sandberg, Lee Smith, Ozzie Smith,
    Alan Trammel, Lou Whitaker, Dave Winfield, Robin Yount

    1990s: Roberto Alomar, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Barry Bonds, Kevin Brown, Will Clark,
    Roger Clemens, John Franco, Tom Glavine, Ken Griffey, Jr., Tony Gwynn, Randy Johnson, Barry Larkin, Greg Maddux, Edgar Martinez, Pedro Martinez, Fred McGriff, Mike Mussina, John Olerud, Mike Piazza, Curt Schilling, John Smoltz, Frank Thomas, Larry Walker

    2000s: Jeff Kent
    Last edited by SavoyBG; 01-09-2013 at 08:17 PM.

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    Hooray! A new ballot! Thanks, Savoy. John and Cougar, your changes will be in the next update. Toledo -- many thanks for the ballot, but if you don't mind I'm going to hold off on adding it to the main list until you get to the non-HOFers. No rush. It's just easier for me to tabulate the results that way.
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  21. #421

    Revised Person Hall of Fame Ballot

    Hello all,

    Just wanted to update my person rankings.

    Hank Aaron*^
    Pete Alexander*
    Dick Allen
    Roberto Alomar*
    Cap Anson*
    Kevin Appier
    Luke Appling*
    Richie Ashburn*
    Jeff Bagwell
    Home Run Baker*
    Dave Bancroft*
    Ernie Banks*^
    Ross Barnes
    John Beckwith^
    Buddy Bell
    Johnny Bench*
    Charlie Bennett
    Yogi Berra*
    Akira Bessho
    Craig Biggio
    Bert Blyleven*
    Wade Boggs*
    Tommy Bond
    Barry Bonds
    Lou Boudreau*
    Roger Bresnahan*
    Kevin Brown
    George Brett*
    Dan Brouthers*
    Mordecai Brown*
    Raymond Brown*^
    Jim Bunning*
    Jesse Burkett*
    Roy Campanella*^
    Bert Campaneris
    Max Carey*
    Rod Carew*
    Steve Carlton*
    Gary Carter*
    Perucho Cepeda^
    Oscar Charleston*^
    Cupid Childs
    Eddie Cicotte
    Will Clark
    Fred Clarke*
    John Clarkson*
    Roger Clemens
    Roberto Clemente*
    Ty Cobb*
    Mickey Cochrane*
    Eddie Collins*
    Jimmy Collins*
    David Cone
    Roger Connor*
    Stan Coveleski*
    Gavvy Cravath
    Sam Crawford*
    Joe Cronin*
    Bill Dahlen
    George Davis*
    Andre Dawson*
    Ed Delahanty*
    Bill Dickey*
    Martin Dihigo*^
    Joe DiMaggio*
    Larry Doby*^
    Bobby Doerr*
    Don Drysdale*
    Dennis Eckersley*
    Dwight Evans
    Darrell Evans
    Buck Ewing*
    Red Faber*
    Bob Feller*
    Wes Ferrell
    Carlton Fisk*
    Art Fletcher
    Elmer Flick*
    Whitey Ford*
    Bill Foster*^
    Rube Foster°^
    Jimmie Foxx*
    Frankie Frisch*
    Pud Galvin*
    Lou Gehrig*
    Charlie Gehringer*
    Bob Gibson*
    Josh Gibson*^
    Jack Glasscock
    Dwight Gooden
    Joe Gordon*
    George Gore
    Goose Goslin*
    Rich Gossage*
    Frank Grant*^
    Hank Greenberg*
    Bobby Grich
    Clark Griffith°
    Heinie Groh
    Lefty Grove*
    Tony Gwynn*
    Billy Hamilton*
    Isao Harimoto
    Gabby Hartnett*
    Harry Heilmann*
    Rickey Henderson*
    Billy Herman*
    Keith Hernandez
    Pete Hill*^
    Paul Hines
    Rogers Hornsby*
    Carl Hubbell*
    Kazuhisa Inao
    Monte Irvin*^
    Reggie Jackson*
    Shoeless Joe Jackso
    Fergie Jenkins*
    Hughie Jennings*
    Grant Johnson^
    Walter Johnson*
    Charley Jones
    Al Kaline*
    Masaichi Kaneda
    Tetsuharu Kawakami
    Tim Keefe*
    Willie Keeler*
    Charlie Keller
    Joe Kelley*
    King Kelly*
    Harmon Killebrew*
    Sandy Koufax*
    Masaaki Koyama
    Nap Lajoie*
    Barry Larkin*
    Tommy Leach
    Buck Leonard*^
    Omar Linares
    Pop Lloyd*^
    Kenny Lofton
    Dick Lundy^
    Ted Lyons*
    Biz Mackey*^
    Sherry Magee
    Mickey Mantle*
    Juan Marichal*
    Edgar Martinez
    Eddie Mathews*
    Christy Mathewson*
    Willie Mays*^
    Willie McCovey*
    Joe McGinnity*
    John McGraw°
    Mark McGwire
    Bid McPhee*
    Cal McVey
    Jose Mendez*^
    Minnie Minoso^
    Johnny Mize*
    Paul Molitor*
    Joe Morgan*
    Thurman Munson
    Eddie Murray*
    Stan Musial*
    Shigeo Nagashima
    Graig Nettles
    Don Newcombe^
    Hal Newhouser*
    Kid Nichols*
    Katsuya Nomura
    Phil Niekro*
    Hiromitsu Ochiai
    Sadaharu Oh
    Alejandro Oms^
    Jim O'Rourke*
    Mel Ott*
    Satchel Paige*^
    Rafael Palmeiro
    Jim Palmer*
    Dickey Pearce
    Gaylord Perry*
    Johnny Pesky
    Mike Piazza
    Billy Pierce
    Lip Pike
    Eddie Plank*
    Old Hoss Radbourn*
    Tim Raines
    Willie Randolph
    Pee Wee Reese*
    Rick Reuschel
    Hardy Richardson
    Cal Ripken*
    Phil Rizzuto*
    Robin Roberts*
    Brooks Robinson*
    Frank Robinson*
    Jackie Robinson*^
    Bullet Rogan*^
    Pete Rose
    Red Ruffing*
    Amos Rusie*
    Babe Ruth*
    Nolan Ryan*
    Bret Saberhagen
    Ryne Sandberg*
    Ron Santo*
    Louis Santop*^
    Curt Schilling
    Mike Schmidt*
    Tom Seaver*
    Joe Sewell*
    Jimmy Sheckard
    Urban Shocker
    Al Simmons*
    Ted Simmons
    George Sisler*
    Enos Slaughter*
    Hilton Smith*^
    Ozzie Smith*
    Reggie Smith
    Duke Snider*
    Sammy Sosa
    Warren Spahn*
    Al Spalding°
    Tris Speaker*
    Victor Starffin
    Willie Stargell*
    Joe Start
    Turkey Stearnes*^
    Dave Stieb
    Mule Suttles*^
    Don Sutton*
    Ezra Sutton
    Bill Terry*
    Cristobal Torriente
    Alan Trammell
    Quincy Trouppe^
    Dazzy Vance*
    Arky Vaughan*
    Bobby Veach
    Rube Waddell*
    Honus Wagner*
    Larry Walker
    Bobby Wallace*
    Ed Walsh*
    Paul Waner*
    Monte Ward*
    Willie Wells*^
    Zack Wheat*
    Lou Whitaker
    Deacon White
    Hoyt Wilhelm*
    Billy Williams*
    Joe Williams*^
    Ted Williams*
    Ned Williamson
    Vic Willis*
    Jud Wilson*^
    Dave Winfield*
    George Wright°
    Early Wynn*
    Jim Wynn
    Carl Yastrzemski*
    Cy Young*
    Robin Yount*

    Not yet eligible for the Hall of Fame, but worthy:
    Carlos Beltran
    Jim Edmonds
    Jason Giambi
    Brian Giles
    Tom Glavine
    Ken Griffey
    Vladimir Guerrero
    Roy Halladay
    Todd Helton
    Derek Jeter
    Randy Johnson
    Chipper Jones
    Greg Maddux
    Pedro Martinez
    Mike Mussina
    Jorge Posada
    Albert Pujols
    Manny Ramirez
    Mariano Rivera
    Alex Rodriguez
    Ivan Rodriguez
    Scott Rolen
    CC Sabathia
    Johan Santana
    Gary Sheffield
    John Smoltz
    Ichiro Suzuki
    Frank Thomas
    Jim Thome

    Newly elected are:
    Tommy Bond
    Eddie Cicotte
    Art Fletcher
    Doc Gooden
    Charley Jones
    Johan Santana
    Bill Terry
    Bobby Veach
    George Uhle

    The next are in the consideration set, notes have been made for those who have moved out of the personal hall since my last update (DOWN) and those moved onto the consideration set (UP)


    Bobby Abreu
    Babe Adams DOWN
    Buzz Arlett
    Jake Beckley
    Cool Papa Bell
    Albert Belle UP
    Adrian Beltre UP
    Lance Berkman
    Bobby Bonds
    Ken Boyer
    Tommy Bridges
    Willard Brown
    Pete Browning UP
    Charlie Buffinton
    Miguel Cabrera UP
    Bob Caruthers DOWN
    Norm Cash
    Ron Cey
    Bus Clarkson
    David Concepcion
    Wilbur Cooper
    Jose Cruz
    Kiki Cuyler
    Dizzy Dean
    Fred Dunlap
    Luke Easter
    Yutaka Enatsu
    Chuck Finley
    Davy Force
    Bill Freehan DOWN
    Jim Fregosi
    Burleigh Grimes UP
    Stan Hack DOWN
    Orel Hershiser DOWN
    Trevor Hoffman
    Elston Howard UP
    Tim Hudson UP
    Tommy John
    Bob Johnson
    Andruw Jones
    Jeff Kent
    Ralph Kiner
    Jerry Koosman UP
    Chet Lemon
    Joe Mauer DOWN
    Joe Medwick
    Bill Monroe DOWN
    Dobie Moore
    Tony Mullane
    Roy Oswalt
    Andy Pettitte UP
    Dick Redding
    Eppa Rixey
    Harry Stovey
    Ben Taylor
    Gene Tenace
    Sam Thompson
    Luis Tiant
    Joe Tinker UP
    Joe Torre
    Chase Utley
    Roy White UP
    Jim Whitney
    Bernie Williams
    Tetsuya Yoneda

    I would like to elect at least one more 19th century hurler, but I have trouble trusting the metrics.
    Anecdotely/reputation wise, does anyone standout amongst:
    Caruthers, Whitney, McCormick, or Welch?

    P.S. - Matthew C - can you update the most recent hall of fame eligibles - I like to compare my choices to yours.

    Tentative attempt at contributors:
    A. J. Reach
    Al Barlick
    Al Lopez
    Alexander Cartwright
    Ban Johnson
    Ben Shibe
    Bill James
    Bill Klem
    Bill McKechnie
    Bill Veeck
    Billy Evans
    Billy Martin
    Billy Southworth
    Bob Davids
    Bob Ferguson
    Bobby Cox
    Branch Rickey
    Buck Canel
    Buck O’Neil
    C. I. Taylor
    Casey Stengel
    Charles Comiskey
    Charles Conlon
    Connie Mack
    Cum Posey
    David Neft
    Dick Williams
    Doc Adams
    Doug Harvey
    Earl Weaver
    Ed Barrow
    Ed Bolden
    Ford Frick
    Francis Richter
    Frank Chance
    Frank Selee
    George Steinbrenner
    George Weiss
    Harry Wright
    Henry Chadwick
    Iso Abe
    J. L. Wilkinson
    J.G. Taylor Spink
    Jack Dunn
    Jacob Ruppert
    Jim Creighton
    Jocko Conlan
    Joe McCarthy
    John Schierholtz
    Kazuto Tsuruoaka
    Kenesaw Landis
    Larry MacPhail
    Leo Durocher
    Marvin Miller
    Matsutaro Shoriki
    Mel Allen
    Miller Huggins
    Ned Hanlon
    O. P. Caylor
    Pat Gillick
    Red Barber
    Shigeru Mizuhara
    Sol White
    Sparky Anderson
    Tetsuharu Kawakami
    Tom Connolly
    Tommy Lasorda
    Tony LaRussa
    Vic Harris
    Vin Scully
    Walter Alston
    Walter O'Malley
    Whitey Herzog
    William Hulbert
    Last edited by Jar of Flies; 01-11-2013 at 08:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jar of Flies View Post

    P.S. - Matthew C - can you update the most recent hall of fame eligibles - I like to compare my choices to yours.
    Mine has changed a lot since I did it a few years ago. I might try to get around to posting an update here soon.
    1885 1886 1926 1931 1934 1942 1944 1946 1964 1967 1982 2006 2011

    1887 1888 1928 1930 1943 1968 1985 1987 2004 2013

    1996 2000 2001 2002 2005 2009 2012 2014


    The Top 100 Pitchers In MLB History
    The Top 100 Position Players In MLB History

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew C. View Post
    Mine has changed a lot since I did it a few years ago. I might try to get around to posting an update here soon.
    I'd be much obliged if you would.
    *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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    Thanks for the update, Jar of Flies.

    I tabulated the votes again. Unusually, no change to the Hall of Fame here. Six contributors dropped out of the Hall of Honor: Happy Chandler, Bucky Harris, John Heydler, Alex Pompez, Lou Piniella, and Joe Torre.

    More votes for the vote god!
    *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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    Overlooked joe torre and alex pompez on the contributors, please add
    Last edited by Jar of Flies; 01-12-2013 at 10:48 PM.

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